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This nomination is faulty, as it misidentifies the author (it was written by Charles Peter Mason, not William Smith) and fails to address the second source cited (Bibliotheca Graeca). It does not clearly state which editions of Stobaeus were consulted. Unfortunately I have also been unable to locate the reference in either source, but it is not plausible that the entry was, as alleged, "made up". The more reasonable explanation is that, not having the correct editions to review, or the older editions being indexed/catalogued in manners that are difficult to comprehend without greater familiarity, we're just having trouble finding the correct volumes and pages. This requires further research, which will not occur if the article is deleted now. If further research can verify that there are no such references—very improbable, IMO—then deletion will be appropriate.
However, I may have found an explanation in PW, which has an entry under "Orestadas" for a Pythagorean of Metapontum. Iamblichus lists him amongst the Pythagoreans of that region, which is not in itself enough for an article, but I suspect that "Oresas" and "Orestadas" might refer to the same disciple of Pythagoras. It could be that Charles Peter Mason emended "Orestadas" to "Oresas", in the belief that the latter was the correct form of the name, or it could be a typographical error in the DGRBM. The problem with this explanation is that it leaves us with two references to other sources in the original article, which we have not yet been able to confirm, and one confirmed source not mentioned by the article.
In either case, I don't think that proposed deletion is the best procedure here: this is not likely to be a person made up by the scholar who wrote the article. It is likely to be a matter of finding the right editions and pages—if indeed 'p' means 'page' in the reference to Bibliotheca Graeca, because in the edition I found online, 'p' referred to some order or pagination other than the page numbers as we would regard them. So pending further investigation—surely the references led somewhere when they were new, and can be updated now—I am deprodding the article. P Aculeius ( talk) 15:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This nomination is faulty, as it misidentifies the author (it was written by Charles Peter Mason, not William Smith) and fails to address the second source cited (Bibliotheca Graeca). It does not clearly state which editions of Stobaeus were consulted. Unfortunately I have also been unable to locate the reference in either source, but it is not plausible that the entry was, as alleged, "made up". The more reasonable explanation is that, not having the correct editions to review, or the older editions being indexed/catalogued in manners that are difficult to comprehend without greater familiarity, we're just having trouble finding the correct volumes and pages. This requires further research, which will not occur if the article is deleted now. If further research can verify that there are no such references—very improbable, IMO—then deletion will be appropriate.
However, I may have found an explanation in PW, which has an entry under "Orestadas" for a Pythagorean of Metapontum. Iamblichus lists him amongst the Pythagoreans of that region, which is not in itself enough for an article, but I suspect that "Oresas" and "Orestadas" might refer to the same disciple of Pythagoras. It could be that Charles Peter Mason emended "Orestadas" to "Oresas", in the belief that the latter was the correct form of the name, or it could be a typographical error in the DGRBM. The problem with this explanation is that it leaves us with two references to other sources in the original article, which we have not yet been able to confirm, and one confirmed source not mentioned by the article.
In either case, I don't think that proposed deletion is the best procedure here: this is not likely to be a person made up by the scholar who wrote the article. It is likely to be a matter of finding the right editions and pages—if indeed 'p' means 'page' in the reference to Bibliotheca Graeca, because in the edition I found online, 'p' referred to some order or pagination other than the page numbers as we would regard them. So pending further investigation—surely the references led somewhere when they were new, and can be updated now—I am deprodding the article. P Aculeius ( talk) 15:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)