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There are several errors in the NVA/VC order of battle. The commander of 275 VC Regiment was LTCOL Nguyen Thoi Bung (aka Ut Thoi). Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011 Annex J - The 275th VC Regiment. There was no discrete NVA Battalion (suspected) - the confusion arises because in May 1966 when 275 Regiment restructured, it incorporated the D605 NVA Battalion to become its 3rd Battalion (which had been disbanded). Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011 Annex J - The 275th VC Regiment. 274 VC Regiment: There was no plan for 274 VC Regiment to ambush any Allied relief forces - ie 11ACR moving from the Blackhorse base. 11 ACR not arrive in-country and reconnoitre the Blackhorse base area at west of Route 2 at Long Giao until September 1966 during its Operation Atlanta - works on the Blackhorse base did not begin until the second half of October - Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D440 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2013, p.19, f.30 citing 11ACR records. 274 Regiment's plans for August 1966 are known from the captured notebook of the Regiment's 2ic - Nguyen Nam Hung, that relates its activities in August 1966, including on 18 August 1966. Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011, p.39, p.41, f.122, f.131 and Annex N, f.22 and f.29. A more complete note on the NVA/VC order of battle at Long Tan is in Chamberlain, E.P., The Battle of Long Tan 18/8/66 - NVA/VC Revisited, Paper to the Conference: "Vietnam: International Perspectives on a Long War", Australian War Memorial - Canberra, 16 August 2013. Ernieacorn ( talk) 05:01, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi All, Additional to my earlier postings - that, amongst other sources, cited the 1991 D445 History, the 5th VC Division History (1995, 2005), and other material, I have now posted a discrete two-page order-of-battle for NVA/VC forces (including personalities) for the Battle of Long Tan on the Internet (free-to-read - via Scribd): "The Battle of Long Tan 18/8/66 - NVA/VC Revisited".
Following my presentation on "The Enemy" at the Australian War Memorial's conference : "International Perspectives on a Long War" in Canberra in mid-August 2013, I provided a two-page "handout" to participants. Since then, some new information from Hanoi interlocutors (received in very late 2013) has suggested that Vũ Quốc Chánh (Tư Chánh) may have commanded D445 at the Battle. However, Vietnamese military authorities have not accepted that suggestion. Based on other material (including the pre-Battle biannual reports by the D445 commanding officer - Bùi Quang Chánh/Sáu Chánh and his political officer - Đổ Văn Liên/Ba Liên), I believe that it is unlikely that Vũ Quốc Chánh (Tư Chánh) commanded D445 at the Battle. I hope to publish on D445 again later this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erniechamberlain ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Battle of Long Tan is already an overlong, detailed page for a battle that lasted less than 4 hours, do we really need to have this page also? Is there anything here that isn't covered on the main page or can't easily be put there? Mztourist ( talk) 10:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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There are several errors in the NVA/VC order of battle. The commander of 275 VC Regiment was LTCOL Nguyen Thoi Bung (aka Ut Thoi). Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011 Annex J - The 275th VC Regiment. There was no discrete NVA Battalion (suspected) - the confusion arises because in May 1966 when 275 Regiment restructured, it incorporated the D605 NVA Battalion to become its 3rd Battalion (which had been disbanded). Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011 Annex J - The 275th VC Regiment. 274 VC Regiment: There was no plan for 274 VC Regiment to ambush any Allied relief forces - ie 11ACR moving from the Blackhorse base. 11 ACR not arrive in-country and reconnoitre the Blackhorse base area at west of Route 2 at Long Giao until September 1966 during its Operation Atlanta - works on the Blackhorse base did not begin until the second half of October - Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D440 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2013, p.19, f.30 citing 11ACR records. 274 Regiment's plans for August 1966 are known from the captured notebook of the Regiment's 2ic - Nguyen Nam Hung, that relates its activities in August 1966, including on 18 August 1966. Reference: Chamberlain, E., The Viet Cong D445 Battalion: Their Story, Point Lonsdale, 2011, p.39, p.41, f.122, f.131 and Annex N, f.22 and f.29. A more complete note on the NVA/VC order of battle at Long Tan is in Chamberlain, E.P., The Battle of Long Tan 18/8/66 - NVA/VC Revisited, Paper to the Conference: "Vietnam: International Perspectives on a Long War", Australian War Memorial - Canberra, 16 August 2013. Ernieacorn ( talk) 05:01, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi All, Additional to my earlier postings - that, amongst other sources, cited the 1991 D445 History, the 5th VC Division History (1995, 2005), and other material, I have now posted a discrete two-page order-of-battle for NVA/VC forces (including personalities) for the Battle of Long Tan on the Internet (free-to-read - via Scribd): "The Battle of Long Tan 18/8/66 - NVA/VC Revisited".
Following my presentation on "The Enemy" at the Australian War Memorial's conference : "International Perspectives on a Long War" in Canberra in mid-August 2013, I provided a two-page "handout" to participants. Since then, some new information from Hanoi interlocutors (received in very late 2013) has suggested that Vũ Quốc Chánh (Tư Chánh) may have commanded D445 at the Battle. However, Vietnamese military authorities have not accepted that suggestion. Based on other material (including the pre-Battle biannual reports by the D445 commanding officer - Bùi Quang Chánh/Sáu Chánh and his political officer - Đổ Văn Liên/Ba Liên), I believe that it is unlikely that Vũ Quốc Chánh (Tư Chánh) commanded D445 at the Battle. I hope to publish on D445 again later this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erniechamberlain ( talk • contribs) 10:36, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Battle of Long Tan is already an overlong, detailed page for a battle that lasted less than 4 hours, do we really need to have this page also? Is there anything here that isn't covered on the main page or can't easily be put there? Mztourist ( talk) 10:06, 2 February 2020 (UTC)