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Please note that the airport in Montreal was Montréal-Dorval International Airport, not "Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport" when 9/11 happened. Also, please note that the customs agency was Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, not "Canada Border Services Agency." Jean Chrétien was the prime minister of Canada, not Stephen Harper. This article, as well as the links must reflect what it was when 9/11 happened, even though the links may redirect. -- SNIyer12
-because it is your own policy, not wikipedia policy. Text uses name at the time, but wikipedia policy is that links should go DIRECTLY to article, not redirect -- JimWae 03:32, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Please do NOT put information that Dorval International Airport is now Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport. That happened in 2004. This article must reflect 9/11. SNIyer12, 02:01, January 23, 2006 (UTC)
As a restructuring of the article, how does this sound?
The operation
Aftermath
A different name for that last one would be better, but I don't really like "Response and Honours." Other sections were renamed or reordered to make the article easier to follow. Once that is done, the two biggest issues remaining is to just fix up the unity and coherence of the article's contents (the information is there, it just needs to be reworded in some places), and to find some sources for a lot of this information. Ben Babcock 20:41, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Also, please note that pilots were also asked to avoid Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport. It is a major airport in Central Canada. Transport Canada and NavCanada had asked pilots to avoid Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal as a security measure. -- SNIyer12, 19:55, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'll be restructing the article also. I had to do so, so that NavCanada's role in the operation could also be included. It is listed here [1]. Info about their role can come from that link. Also, please note that Transport Canada activating its SitCen is not part of the operation, that, as well as NavCanada's role are part of the deployment of emergency measures. -- SNIyer12, 14:56 5 Jul, 2005 (UTC)
You might want to create an article about NavCanada. I would like to have the page to link with NavCanada. -- SNIyer12 6 July 2005 15:37 (UTC)
Ben, How come you haven't worked on the Pacific flights section? I would like to know because I may have to work on it. -- SNIyer12 15 July 2005 17:41 (UTC)
I saw recently that an anonymous user ( 207.61.25.34) added that a handful of trans-Pacific flights were diverted further inland to Calgary. That user must understand that there were also trans-Atlantic flights, mostly bound for destinations on the U.S. west coast, that were diverted to Calgary, the CBC reported. The user must also understand what both Peter Gregg, communications chief for the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA), which runs Lester B. Pearson International Airport said in a news conference, and DeNeen Brown of The Washington Post reported: Planes landed all over Canada, depending where they were coming from, how much fuel they had, and the nearest airport for diversion. SNIyer12 16:24 26 July 2005 (UTC).
I was in Winnipeg at the time and I saw with my own eyes jets from Korea land, the biggest ones. Winnipeg International Airport does have the ability to take the very biggest airplanes. It has one runway long enough and we did take in the big aircraft incoming from the Pacific. Winnipeg also has a maintenance base that takes in every kind of airplane for full overhauls from all around the world. The story is incorrect when it says that pacific inbound planes could only land in Vancouver due to the runway. It may have been an issue of fuel because Winnipeg is in the centre of the continent but it was not runways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjorklund21 ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Ben, I'm going to make this article a closed issue. I just had to add some of the information concerning the security at the airports, like the RCMP conducting security inspections of the aircraft. SNIyer12 17:08 26 July 2005 (UTC).
There were other additions I have added since it was a closed issue for the Cleanup Taskforce, like the interview with Chrétien by CNN, the scenes on the planes when the news was broken, and passengers saying that they're glad to be safe, and airports receiving telephone calls during the diversion of flights. SNIyer12 17:44 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Please do NOT mention in the Pacific flights section that there were trans-Pacific flights that landed in Calgary and Edmonton. There were trans-Atlantic flights that landed at both airports.
I've mentioned this before, users MUST understand what both Peter Gregg, communications chief for the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA), which runs Lester B. Pearson International Airport said in a news conference, and DeNeen Brown of The Washington Post reported: It's not how many flights an airport received, nor was it where the planes landed. It depended on several factors: where it was coming from, how much fuel it had, and the nearest airport for diversion. NAV CANADA also said the same thing. It is also in the article. SNIyer12 15:10 11 February 2006 (UTC).
I have removed {{ Infobox Military Conflict}} from this article as an irrelevance. How does this article describe a "military conflict"? Also, listing "Combatants: Canada" is silly: there weren't any "combatants". If anyone objects, please discuss it here before putting it back. -- RFBailey 18:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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Any idea what happened to flights coming from South America, did they stop in Mexico, Bahamas?? 206.104.165.162 ( talk) 21:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Also did many people perhaps rent a car and drive back to the US? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.122.171 ( talk) 00:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The description of "potentially destructive air traffic ...where their destructive potential could be better contained and neutralized" is extremely bizarre. These aircraft were not "potentially destructive", nor was their potential to be "contained and neutralized". Paranoia!
Demonstrative of the rigidity and patent irrationality of some individual who considers himself or herself to be "contributing" substantively to the project is the recent edit constituted by the removal of a section containing the content of a letter from the U.S. President to the Canadian Prime Minister on the occasion of the tenth anniversary of 9/11. This letter directly spoke to the topic and subject matter of this article; and, there is no article to which the content of the President's letter could possibly be relevant other than the general article on Canada-U.S. bilateral international relations. That point made, the article to which the content of the President's letter is most relevant is this one.
The motivation for the deletion of the section containing the text of the President's letter to the Prime Minister on this occasion and on this subject matter, objectively reasonably, could only have been one of an attempted and irrational vindication of an individual who was more interested in exercising their power of the edit and their own sadly misguided "righteousness" in being able to wield that power, to the extent that they refuse to even recognize the benefits of the extent and diversity comprised in the collectivity of all the individuals who contribute to the project--one who lives in their own little world, attempting essentially to be the sole editor and contributor determining the form and substance of this article (and probably all the articles the form and content of which this person affects) and not supporting the shared goal of maximization of the erudition of this and any article, instead seeking to showcase and grandstand a perverted personal agenda that has neither relevance to, nor avers any benefit of, the project.
This choice on your part, whoever you are, is the product of your patently irrational mind--and I suggest to you that, on the basis of your conduct, and what necessarily must be, and what necessarily cannot be, the motivation for your conduct, you seek psychiatric and psychological counseling immediately, as the power you wielded in deleting the edit, and, even more importantly, in its implications for, and reflection in, your wider interpersonal and interactive existence, does not belong in the hands of an individual who is as disconnected from and unappreciative of the demands of reality as you obviously are. I pity you. Paul63243 ( talk) 11:13, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
If possible, could this article include pictures of all planes lined up in canadian airports? I know it's hard to get them but I saw some of them in the airliners.net database and I thought they would show the magnitude of the emergency.
thank you, 93.34.32.18 ( talk) 20:50, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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Please note that the airport in Montreal was Montréal-Dorval International Airport, not "Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport" when 9/11 happened. Also, please note that the customs agency was Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, not "Canada Border Services Agency." Jean Chrétien was the prime minister of Canada, not Stephen Harper. This article, as well as the links must reflect what it was when 9/11 happened, even though the links may redirect. -- SNIyer12
-because it is your own policy, not wikipedia policy. Text uses name at the time, but wikipedia policy is that links should go DIRECTLY to article, not redirect -- JimWae 03:32, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Please do NOT put information that Dorval International Airport is now Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport. That happened in 2004. This article must reflect 9/11. SNIyer12, 02:01, January 23, 2006 (UTC)
As a restructuring of the article, how does this sound?
The operation
Aftermath
A different name for that last one would be better, but I don't really like "Response and Honours." Other sections were renamed or reordered to make the article easier to follow. Once that is done, the two biggest issues remaining is to just fix up the unity and coherence of the article's contents (the information is there, it just needs to be reworded in some places), and to find some sources for a lot of this information. Ben Babcock 20:41, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Also, please note that pilots were also asked to avoid Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport. It is a major airport in Central Canada. Transport Canada and NavCanada had asked pilots to avoid Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal as a security measure. -- SNIyer12, 19:55, 2 Jul 2005 (UTC)
I'll be restructing the article also. I had to do so, so that NavCanada's role in the operation could also be included. It is listed here [1]. Info about their role can come from that link. Also, please note that Transport Canada activating its SitCen is not part of the operation, that, as well as NavCanada's role are part of the deployment of emergency measures. -- SNIyer12, 14:56 5 Jul, 2005 (UTC)
You might want to create an article about NavCanada. I would like to have the page to link with NavCanada. -- SNIyer12 6 July 2005 15:37 (UTC)
Ben, How come you haven't worked on the Pacific flights section? I would like to know because I may have to work on it. -- SNIyer12 15 July 2005 17:41 (UTC)
I saw recently that an anonymous user ( 207.61.25.34) added that a handful of trans-Pacific flights were diverted further inland to Calgary. That user must understand that there were also trans-Atlantic flights, mostly bound for destinations on the U.S. west coast, that were diverted to Calgary, the CBC reported. The user must also understand what both Peter Gregg, communications chief for the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA), which runs Lester B. Pearson International Airport said in a news conference, and DeNeen Brown of The Washington Post reported: Planes landed all over Canada, depending where they were coming from, how much fuel they had, and the nearest airport for diversion. SNIyer12 16:24 26 July 2005 (UTC).
I was in Winnipeg at the time and I saw with my own eyes jets from Korea land, the biggest ones. Winnipeg International Airport does have the ability to take the very biggest airplanes. It has one runway long enough and we did take in the big aircraft incoming from the Pacific. Winnipeg also has a maintenance base that takes in every kind of airplane for full overhauls from all around the world. The story is incorrect when it says that pacific inbound planes could only land in Vancouver due to the runway. It may have been an issue of fuel because Winnipeg is in the centre of the continent but it was not runways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjorklund21 ( talk • contribs) 14:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
Ben, I'm going to make this article a closed issue. I just had to add some of the information concerning the security at the airports, like the RCMP conducting security inspections of the aircraft. SNIyer12 17:08 26 July 2005 (UTC).
There were other additions I have added since it was a closed issue for the Cleanup Taskforce, like the interview with Chrétien by CNN, the scenes on the planes when the news was broken, and passengers saying that they're glad to be safe, and airports receiving telephone calls during the diversion of flights. SNIyer12 17:44 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Please do NOT mention in the Pacific flights section that there were trans-Pacific flights that landed in Calgary and Edmonton. There were trans-Atlantic flights that landed at both airports.
I've mentioned this before, users MUST understand what both Peter Gregg, communications chief for the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA), which runs Lester B. Pearson International Airport said in a news conference, and DeNeen Brown of The Washington Post reported: It's not how many flights an airport received, nor was it where the planes landed. It depended on several factors: where it was coming from, how much fuel it had, and the nearest airport for diversion. NAV CANADA also said the same thing. It is also in the article. SNIyer12 15:10 11 February 2006 (UTC).
I have removed {{ Infobox Military Conflict}} from this article as an irrelevance. How does this article describe a "military conflict"? Also, listing "Combatants: Canada" is silly: there weren't any "combatants". If anyone objects, please discuss it here before putting it back. -- RFBailey 18:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
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Any idea what happened to flights coming from South America, did they stop in Mexico, Bahamas?? 206.104.165.162 ( talk) 21:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Also did many people perhaps rent a car and drive back to the US? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.122.171 ( talk) 00:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
The description of "potentially destructive air traffic ...where their destructive potential could be better contained and neutralized" is extremely bizarre. These aircraft were not "potentially destructive", nor was their potential to be "contained and neutralized". Paranoia!
Demonstrative of the rigidity and patent irrationality of some individual who considers himself or herself to be "contributing" substantively to the project is the recent edit constituted by the removal of a section containing the content of a letter from the U.S. President to the Canadian Prime Minister on the occasion of the tenth anniversary of 9/11. This letter directly spoke to the topic and subject matter of this article; and, there is no article to which the content of the President's letter could possibly be relevant other than the general article on Canada-U.S. bilateral international relations. That point made, the article to which the content of the President's letter is most relevant is this one.
The motivation for the deletion of the section containing the text of the President's letter to the Prime Minister on this occasion and on this subject matter, objectively reasonably, could only have been one of an attempted and irrational vindication of an individual who was more interested in exercising their power of the edit and their own sadly misguided "righteousness" in being able to wield that power, to the extent that they refuse to even recognize the benefits of the extent and diversity comprised in the collectivity of all the individuals who contribute to the project--one who lives in their own little world, attempting essentially to be the sole editor and contributor determining the form and substance of this article (and probably all the articles the form and content of which this person affects) and not supporting the shared goal of maximization of the erudition of this and any article, instead seeking to showcase and grandstand a perverted personal agenda that has neither relevance to, nor avers any benefit of, the project.
This choice on your part, whoever you are, is the product of your patently irrational mind--and I suggest to you that, on the basis of your conduct, and what necessarily must be, and what necessarily cannot be, the motivation for your conduct, you seek psychiatric and psychological counseling immediately, as the power you wielded in deleting the edit, and, even more importantly, in its implications for, and reflection in, your wider interpersonal and interactive existence, does not belong in the hands of an individual who is as disconnected from and unappreciative of the demands of reality as you obviously are. I pity you. Paul63243 ( talk) 11:13, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
If possible, could this article include pictures of all planes lined up in canadian airports? I know it's hard to get them but I saw some of them in the airliners.net database and I thought they would show the magnitude of the emergency.
thank you, 93.34.32.18 ( talk) 20:50, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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