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"The insurgency is going through its bloodiest period since U.S.-backed forces overthrew a Taliban government in late 2001 after it refused to hand over Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. More than 2,000 people, most of them militants, along with scores of civilians and aid workers as well as hundreds of Afghan security personnel have been killed so far in 2006, while over 100 foreign troops have died, including those killed in the plane crash on September 2, 2006.[2][4]"
This piece may be accurate, but it reads like a news report, is completely out of date, and has ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. Please desist from including material like this in any future articles. 86.42.203.20 ( talk) 21:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Two paragraphs were removed due to their being inept rewrites of an AP story which can be found at http://www.forbes.com/business/manufacturing/feeds/ap/2006/09/03/ap2990613.html.
Eleland 19:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The current (20:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)) picture shows US troops in Kunar Province on Aug 29, which isn't really relevant to a NATO operation in Kandahar Province launched in September.
Eleland 20:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I suggest merging this to Taliban insurgency; both articles are rather poor and I think we could make one good article out of them. I'll continue to work on improving both articles, but if there are no serious objections I'll merge in a few days. -- Guinnog 20:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Right now this is basically a bunch of long paragraphs dumped together with no overall structure. There is too much gnats-eye-view stuff, which, I'm pretty sure, was ripped off of the AP wire by anonymous editors. Most of it should be stripped out, or moved to a point-form timeline ("day 6: artillery strikes here", etc).
I would ask for a large scale narrative synthesizing what is really happening, but nobody seems to know what is really happening. (Maybe NATO, but they aren't telling.)
Eleland 18:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
The war box under the info box contains "Veritas" and "Herrick"... the two do not belong in the box as they are the names of the overall missions that the British are involved in and not the operations which had the purpose of clearing areas, (the way anaconda was for clearing the valley, medusa for the panjwaii district, tora bora for the tora bora mountains) which is what the box is for.
.. Hellopple.. Oct 24
Pretty much all of the Afghanistan War battles are listed as ISAF victories. This view is unsupportable by evidence.
Battles are not competitions for body counts; they are fought to achieve larger strategic objectives. It is in no way clear that Operations Medusa, Mountain Thrust, Falcon Summit, etc have achieved their objectives. If Medusa was a victory, than why is the operation basically being re-run as Falcon Summit?
I believe the result should be something like "tactical NATO success; strategic results unclear". Eleland 15:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, this article isn't on the war in afghanistan in general, it's on Operation Medusa. In that regard it is a coalition victory. Otherwise we could say the stategic results of the first Gulf War are still unclear. Any thoughts?--
131.137.245.200
12:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
While the Legion article is quite detailed, don't know how comfortable I am with the text being the ONLY source of info. Yes, it's multi-sourced, but so are other documents (like the link I added from the Hamilton Spectator). Also, it would be nice to see some links to primary sources (I'm adding this one http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/focus/opmedusa/index_e.asp for the Board of Inquiry looking into the friendly fire death that happened during OP Medusa).
Thanks for all the work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.249.251 ( talk) 18:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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Seems like that should be mentioned in the intro, especially as part of the casualty breakdown. 96.241.177.111 ( talk) 21:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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"The insurgency is going through its bloodiest period since U.S.-backed forces overthrew a Taliban government in late 2001 after it refused to hand over Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden following the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. More than 2,000 people, most of them militants, along with scores of civilians and aid workers as well as hundreds of Afghan security personnel have been killed so far in 2006, while over 100 foreign troops have died, including those killed in the plane crash on September 2, 2006.[2][4]"
This piece may be accurate, but it reads like a news report, is completely out of date, and has ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. Please desist from including material like this in any future articles. 86.42.203.20 ( talk) 21:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Two paragraphs were removed due to their being inept rewrites of an AP story which can be found at http://www.forbes.com/business/manufacturing/feeds/ap/2006/09/03/ap2990613.html.
Eleland 19:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The current (20:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)) picture shows US troops in Kunar Province on Aug 29, which isn't really relevant to a NATO operation in Kandahar Province launched in September.
Eleland 20:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I suggest merging this to Taliban insurgency; both articles are rather poor and I think we could make one good article out of them. I'll continue to work on improving both articles, but if there are no serious objections I'll merge in a few days. -- Guinnog 20:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Right now this is basically a bunch of long paragraphs dumped together with no overall structure. There is too much gnats-eye-view stuff, which, I'm pretty sure, was ripped off of the AP wire by anonymous editors. Most of it should be stripped out, or moved to a point-form timeline ("day 6: artillery strikes here", etc).
I would ask for a large scale narrative synthesizing what is really happening, but nobody seems to know what is really happening. (Maybe NATO, but they aren't telling.)
Eleland 18:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
The war box under the info box contains "Veritas" and "Herrick"... the two do not belong in the box as they are the names of the overall missions that the British are involved in and not the operations which had the purpose of clearing areas, (the way anaconda was for clearing the valley, medusa for the panjwaii district, tora bora for the tora bora mountains) which is what the box is for.
.. Hellopple.. Oct 24
Pretty much all of the Afghanistan War battles are listed as ISAF victories. This view is unsupportable by evidence.
Battles are not competitions for body counts; they are fought to achieve larger strategic objectives. It is in no way clear that Operations Medusa, Mountain Thrust, Falcon Summit, etc have achieved their objectives. If Medusa was a victory, than why is the operation basically being re-run as Falcon Summit?
I believe the result should be something like "tactical NATO success; strategic results unclear". Eleland 15:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, this article isn't on the war in afghanistan in general, it's on Operation Medusa. In that regard it is a coalition victory. Otherwise we could say the stategic results of the first Gulf War are still unclear. Any thoughts?--
131.137.245.200
12:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
While the Legion article is quite detailed, don't know how comfortable I am with the text being the ONLY source of info. Yes, it's multi-sourced, but so are other documents (like the link I added from the Hamilton Spectator). Also, it would be nice to see some links to primary sources (I'm adding this one http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/focus/opmedusa/index_e.asp for the Board of Inquiry looking into the friendly fire death that happened during OP Medusa).
Thanks for all the work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.249.251 ( talk) 18:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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Seems like that should be mentioned in the intro, especially as part of the casualty breakdown. 96.241.177.111 ( talk) 21:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)