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On 13 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip to Operation Hot Winter. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Barak said today. Flayer ( talk) 15:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
According to Ynet, Islamic Jihad was directly targeted in the operation, meaning that it can be listed as a participant. I don't know whether it responded directly to the IDF, but considering that it does fire Qassams constantly, it should definitely be included. Flayer: Do you have a link to the Channel 1 program stating that the Jihad was not involved? -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it Warm Winter or Hot Winter? I've seen the latter far more often in sources... — Nightstallion 16:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
What is "Givati" supposed to mean in "8 wounded (Givati)"? Bless sins ( talk) 16:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It appears that the operation itself is completely over, not just the first stages, and most sources confirm this. However, the IDF Spokesperson has not made a press release confirming that the operation finished, or whether the IDF considers it a success or failure. Even so, should we state that the operation is over? It certainly seems so. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 20:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Here are some sources stating that the operation ended: English, Hebrew Reshet, Hebrew NRG (op-ed) -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 06:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
The Holocaust and Nakba are two different events, but the Palestinians call the Nakba 'their holocaust'. When discussing what Vilnai meant by a 'worse holocaust' when threatening the Palestinians, it is important to mention that the Palestinians constantly use that phrase to describe what happened in 1948. When threatening Jews, Armenians or Palestinians with a 'holocaust', each one would take that to mean something else, based on their own collective national experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.80.228 ( talk) 20:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
We can't have irrelevant commentary in this article that calls specific organizations "anti-Israel", unless that commentary is directly connected with Operation Hot Winter. Think of it this way: would it not be inappropriate if someone inserted commentary saying that the United States is anti-Arab, right after the U.S. reaction. Would it also not be inappropriate if someone brought in references to "Israeli apartheid" while discussing the Israeli reaction?
Irrelevant commentary that attacks particular organizations and is not relevant to the operation should not be in the article. Bless sins ( talk) 03:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
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I was reading up on this and how it relates to the current, Dec08/Jan09 conflict. On the page for the 2007–2008_Israel-Gaza_conflict and here too, neither mention the reason for the rocket barraged launched on 27 Feb that struck Ashkelon. However one of the links from that page links to this article: washingtonpost.com
The fighting Saturday was greqtest yet following a significant escalation Wednesday. In the four days since an Israeli missile destroyed a van carrying five Hamas members suspected of plotting an attack inside Israel, 94 Palestinians have been killed and more than 300 have been injured, according to hospital sources in Gaza. During the same period, at least 180 rockets and mortar shells have been fired into Israel, causing one death and 11 injuries, the Israeli military said. The Israelis are following their plan to stomp the Palestinians who attacked them off the map.
Shouldn't the 'background' section at least mention the reason for the flareup?
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2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip → Operation Hot Winter – for disambiguation, since the 2008–2009 Gaza War was also a "2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip". In fact, the other operation was larger, so it may be the primary 2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip. This would revert a move of 22 December 2019 that followed an RM discussion recorded at Talk:2006 Israeli operation in Beit Hanoun § Requested move 8 December 2019. — BarrelProof ( talk) 17:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Support, we need to avoid confusing between these articles Ridax2020 ( talk) 11:17, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
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On 13 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from 2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip to Operation Hot Winter. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Barak said today. Flayer ( talk) 15:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
According to Ynet, Islamic Jihad was directly targeted in the operation, meaning that it can be listed as a participant. I don't know whether it responded directly to the IDF, but considering that it does fire Qassams constantly, it should definitely be included. Flayer: Do you have a link to the Channel 1 program stating that the Jihad was not involved? -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 22:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it Warm Winter or Hot Winter? I've seen the latter far more often in sources... — Nightstallion 16:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
What is "Givati" supposed to mean in "8 wounded (Givati)"? Bless sins ( talk) 16:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It appears that the operation itself is completely over, not just the first stages, and most sources confirm this. However, the IDF Spokesperson has not made a press release confirming that the operation finished, or whether the IDF considers it a success or failure. Even so, should we state that the operation is over? It certainly seems so. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 20:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Here are some sources stating that the operation ended: English, Hebrew Reshet, Hebrew NRG (op-ed) -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 06:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
The Holocaust and Nakba are two different events, but the Palestinians call the Nakba 'their holocaust'. When discussing what Vilnai meant by a 'worse holocaust' when threatening the Palestinians, it is important to mention that the Palestinians constantly use that phrase to describe what happened in 1948. When threatening Jews, Armenians or Palestinians with a 'holocaust', each one would take that to mean something else, based on their own collective national experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.180.80.228 ( talk) 20:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
We can't have irrelevant commentary in this article that calls specific organizations "anti-Israel", unless that commentary is directly connected with Operation Hot Winter. Think of it this way: would it not be inappropriate if someone inserted commentary saying that the United States is anti-Arab, right after the U.S. reaction. Would it also not be inappropriate if someone brought in references to "Israeli apartheid" while discussing the Israeli reaction?
Irrelevant commentary that attacks particular organizations and is not relevant to the operation should not be in the article. Bless sins ( talk) 03:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:United Nations Human Rights Council logo.png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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I was reading up on this and how it relates to the current, Dec08/Jan09 conflict. On the page for the 2007–2008_Israel-Gaza_conflict and here too, neither mention the reason for the rocket barraged launched on 27 Feb that struck Ashkelon. However one of the links from that page links to this article: washingtonpost.com
The fighting Saturday was greqtest yet following a significant escalation Wednesday. In the four days since an Israeli missile destroyed a van carrying five Hamas members suspected of plotting an attack inside Israel, 94 Palestinians have been killed and more than 300 have been injured, according to hospital sources in Gaza. During the same period, at least 180 rockets and mortar shells have been fired into Israel, causing one death and 11 injuries, the Israeli military said. The Israelis are following their plan to stomp the Palestinians who attacked them off the map.
Shouldn't the 'background' section at least mention the reason for the flareup?
192.156.56.34 (
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old libya flag is still in use here maybe needs to be fixed? I don't know actually though, I sorta like the old Libyan flag more lol :)
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2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip → Operation Hot Winter – for disambiguation, since the 2008–2009 Gaza War was also a "2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip". In fact, the other operation was larger, so it may be the primary 2008 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip. This would revert a move of 22 December 2019 that followed an RM discussion recorded at Talk:2006 Israeli operation in Beit Hanoun § Requested move 8 December 2019. — BarrelProof ( talk) 17:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Support, we need to avoid confusing between these articles Ridax2020 ( talk) 11:17, 14 May 2021 (UTC)