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Created a new article for Operation Fishbowl to replace the former redirect to the article on the much larger Operation Dominic program. This article has been badly needed to fill the gap between other articles such as the Starfish Prime article and the article about the much larger Operation Dominic nuclear testing program. Many other articles mention Operation Fishbowl without having an article to link to. Operation Fishbowl was responsible for many important scientific discoveries due to the uniqueness of some of the phenomena related to high-altitude nuclear explosions. These phenomena include high-altitude electromagnetic pulse and the generation of aurora in the opposite hemisphere of the high-altitude detonation. In addition, the Starfish Prime article is badly in need of a re-write, and this Operation Fishbowl article will make the re-write of that article, and others, much easier. X5dna ( talk) 06:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I have corrected the local time zone in the main table in the article. It had shown LINT, which is Line Island Time. The Line Islands are actually now on the opposite side of the International Date Line from Johnston Island (due to a change made in the 1990s) although the Line Islands are east of Johnston Island. (During the era of above-ground nuclear testing, the Line Islands were east of the International Date Line, and now they are on the west side.)
Johnston Island currently observes Hawaii–Aleutian Standard Time, which is UT minus 10 hours, although I have seen conflicting information regarding whether this time was observed in 1962. Some sources indicate that, in 1962, Johnston Island Time was UT minus 11 hours. (In any case, Johnston Island has always been east of the International Date Line.) If anyone has conclusive information about the time zone that was observed by Johnston Island in 1962, please leave that reference on this talk page or give it as a reference in the main article. X5dna ( talk) 10:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC
The table on this page and the contents of any nuclear tests infobox are generated from a database of nuclear testing which I have maintained and researched for a number of years. The table is automatically generated from that database by a Visual Basic script, and then has, periodically, been inserted into the page manually. I began doing this in October of 2013.
Recently a user complained (politely) to me about the practice. It seems to him that it removes control from all editors besides myself over the content. He believes it is tantamount to WP:OWNED of the pages affected. He also points out that there is no public mention of the fact anywhere on wikipedia, and that is true, through my own oversight, until now.
There was no intent that the pages affected should be owned by myself; in fact, one of my reasons for building these pages was to solicit (in the wikipedia way) criticism and corrections to the data, perhaps additional references that I had been unable to locate. I have regenerated the tables twice in the days since they were originally placed. Each time I did so, I performed a diff between the current version and the version that I put up in the previous cycle; all corrections were then either entered into the database or corrected in the programming, as appropriate. As may be guessed, the programming corrections were frequent to start out as suggestions about the table formatting were raised, and most incorporated. I have not made judgements on the "usefulness" of corrections; all have been incorporated, or I have communicated directly with the editor to settle the matter. In fact it was in pursuing such a correction that this matter came up.
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An early edition of the How and Why Wonder Book of Rockets and Missiles described how radiation belts (the Van Allen Belts perhaps?) had been created by early high-altitude tests. This was perhaps not true! But obviously someone in the USA believed it at the time. If we could source this little cold-war factoid it would be an interesting addition to whatever tests these were. I think they were before Fishbowl and closer to the North Pole but I could be wrong. Andrewa ( talk) 00:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
See the article List of artificial radiation belts for more information about this subject. X5dna ( talk) 08:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Flat earthers have told me this ties with flat earth. How? 80.187.123.90 ( talk) 18:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Created a new article for Operation Fishbowl to replace the former redirect to the article on the much larger Operation Dominic program. This article has been badly needed to fill the gap between other articles such as the Starfish Prime article and the article about the much larger Operation Dominic nuclear testing program. Many other articles mention Operation Fishbowl without having an article to link to. Operation Fishbowl was responsible for many important scientific discoveries due to the uniqueness of some of the phenomena related to high-altitude nuclear explosions. These phenomena include high-altitude electromagnetic pulse and the generation of aurora in the opposite hemisphere of the high-altitude detonation. In addition, the Starfish Prime article is badly in need of a re-write, and this Operation Fishbowl article will make the re-write of that article, and others, much easier. X5dna ( talk) 06:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
I have corrected the local time zone in the main table in the article. It had shown LINT, which is Line Island Time. The Line Islands are actually now on the opposite side of the International Date Line from Johnston Island (due to a change made in the 1990s) although the Line Islands are east of Johnston Island. (During the era of above-ground nuclear testing, the Line Islands were east of the International Date Line, and now they are on the west side.)
Johnston Island currently observes Hawaii–Aleutian Standard Time, which is UT minus 10 hours, although I have seen conflicting information regarding whether this time was observed in 1962. Some sources indicate that, in 1962, Johnston Island Time was UT minus 11 hours. (In any case, Johnston Island has always been east of the International Date Line.) If anyone has conclusive information about the time zone that was observed by Johnston Island in 1962, please leave that reference on this talk page or give it as a reference in the main article. X5dna ( talk) 10:27, 3 February 2014 (UTC
The table on this page and the contents of any nuclear tests infobox are generated from a database of nuclear testing which I have maintained and researched for a number of years. The table is automatically generated from that database by a Visual Basic script, and then has, periodically, been inserted into the page manually. I began doing this in October of 2013.
Recently a user complained (politely) to me about the practice. It seems to him that it removes control from all editors besides myself over the content. He believes it is tantamount to WP:OWNED of the pages affected. He also points out that there is no public mention of the fact anywhere on wikipedia, and that is true, through my own oversight, until now.
There was no intent that the pages affected should be owned by myself; in fact, one of my reasons for building these pages was to solicit (in the wikipedia way) criticism and corrections to the data, perhaps additional references that I had been unable to locate. I have regenerated the tables twice in the days since they were originally placed. Each time I did so, I performed a diff between the current version and the version that I put up in the previous cycle; all corrections were then either entered into the database or corrected in the programming, as appropriate. As may be guessed, the programming corrections were frequent to start out as suggestions about the table formatting were raised, and most incorporated. I have not made judgements on the "usefulness" of corrections; all have been incorporated, or I have communicated directly with the editor to settle the matter. In fact it was in pursuing such a correction that this matter came up.
I am posting this comment on the Talk page of every page containing content which is so generated. If you would like to comment on this matter, please go to the copy on Talk:List of nuclear tests so the discussion can be kept together. I will also be placing a maintained template on each Talk page (if anyone would like also to be named as a maintainer on one or all pages, you are welcome). I solicit all comments and suggestions.
SkoreKeep ( talk) 04:45, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
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An early edition of the How and Why Wonder Book of Rockets and Missiles described how radiation belts (the Van Allen Belts perhaps?) had been created by early high-altitude tests. This was perhaps not true! But obviously someone in the USA believed it at the time. If we could source this little cold-war factoid it would be an interesting addition to whatever tests these were. I think they were before Fishbowl and closer to the North Pole but I could be wrong. Andrewa ( talk) 00:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
See the article List of artificial radiation belts for more information about this subject. X5dna ( talk) 08:00, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Flat earthers have told me this ties with flat earth. How? 80.187.123.90 ( talk) 18:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)