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Only name. The article Siege of Mariupol is not called Siege of Mariupol (2022) because of the Battle of Mariupol (1919). Per
WP:TITLEDAB, disambiguation is only necessary when there is otherwise an actual conflict in article titles. No such conflict in titles exists. Per
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Parham wiki (
talk) 08:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk) 04:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)reply
oppose is there a better name we can use per
WP:CODENAME—
blindlynx 14:14, 29 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. While I note the point that has been raised about
WP:CODENAME, it also seems to be the case that
WP:CODENAME's guidance mainly applies to combat operations. For instance, the guideline mentions that operational codenames only represent[] one side's planning; but Operation Desert seems to have been a domestic effort to produce synthetic oil, so there isn't really an "other side" whose planning is being left out. (Indeed, when checking the categories for non-combat military operations in
the US,
Australia, and
India, it becomes apparent that operational titles – while far from universal – are reasonably widespread for such cases.) Thus, I think retaining the operational title is worthwhile here.In addition to the above, I think the
WP:CRITERIA favor the original proposal. Removing the disambiguator improves on naturalness and concision, without sacrificing precision or recognizability.
ModernDayTrilobite (
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(talk) 04:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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Support as there is no other "Operation Desert" topic. All the others are "Operation Desert Foo".
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Only name. The article Siege of Mariupol is not called Siege of Mariupol (2022) because of the Battle of Mariupol (1919). Per
WP:TITLEDAB, disambiguation is only necessary when there is otherwise an actual conflict in article titles. No such conflict in titles exists. Per
WP:CONCISE, concision is preferred over unnecessary precision (Like the
Republic of the Congo and the
Democratic Republic of the Congo, the
Iraq War and the
Iraqi conflict).
Parham wiki (
talk) 08:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran
(talk) 04:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)reply
oppose is there a better name we can use per
WP:CODENAME—
blindlynx 14:14, 29 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. While I note the point that has been raised about
WP:CODENAME, it also seems to be the case that
WP:CODENAME's guidance mainly applies to combat operations. For instance, the guideline mentions that operational codenames only represent[] one side's planning; but Operation Desert seems to have been a domestic effort to produce synthetic oil, so there isn't really an "other side" whose planning is being left out. (Indeed, when checking the categories for non-combat military operations in
the US,
Australia, and
India, it becomes apparent that operational titles – while far from universal – are reasonably widespread for such cases.) Thus, I think retaining the operational title is worthwhile here.In addition to the above, I think the
WP:CRITERIA favor the original proposal. Removing the disambiguator improves on naturalness and concision, without sacrificing precision or recognizability.
ModernDayTrilobite (
talk •
contribs) 15:17, 5 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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WikiProject Energy has been notified of this discussion. —usernamekiran
(talk) 04:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)reply
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(talk) 04:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Support as there is no other "Operation Desert" topic. All the others are "Operation Desert Foo".
Bermicourt (
talk) 16:59, 19 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.