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It isn't finished yet but it's better than the previous edit. The narrative after 5 June needs doing, the lead is inadequate and Karslake and Roskill have more to say. The German side needs more detail too Keith-264 ( talk) 12:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Is this a British or French unit? The text is unclear and there is no xref. Mztourist ( talk) 06:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
The insertion of this informal label, while allowing a degree of brevity in the text, has the disadvantage of not being strictly accurate. It might be a contraction too far to refer to elements of the 51st (H) Division as a whole as 'Highlanders'.
It is more customary to refer only to soldiers of Highland regiments as 'Highlanders.' While the infantry brigades of the 51st Highland Division were made up of battalions drawn from the Highland regiments, in addition to several support units from the Corps there were units serving in the division that were not Highland- notably the Lothian and Borders Horse- or even Scottish, for example the machine gunners from the Middlesex Regiment and Royal Northumberland Fusiliers, as well as pioneer battalions of the Royal Norfolk Regiment and Royal Scots Fusiliers. These all fought or were captured at St Valery.
I suggest it would be more accurate, and do proper justice to the other troops mentioned (proud though they might be at the association), to find another portmanteau term to referring to undifferentiated portions of the division. JF42 ( talk) 20:10, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
PS you shouldn't revert talk page comment. Regards Keith-264 ( talk) 20:52, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
JF42 ( talk) 21:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
That reply and your previous reference to "far too much detail" indicate that you do indeed misunderstand both my original comment and my clarification. I am suggesting re-phrasing, not insertion of additional information. You may disagree with the suggestion. That would be a difference of opinion. JF42 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
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It isn't finished yet but it's better than the previous edit. The narrative after 5 June needs doing, the lead is inadequate and Karslake and Roskill have more to say. The German side needs more detail too Keith-264 ( talk) 12:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Is this a British or French unit? The text is unclear and there is no xref. Mztourist ( talk) 06:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
The insertion of this informal label, while allowing a degree of brevity in the text, has the disadvantage of not being strictly accurate. It might be a contraction too far to refer to elements of the 51st (H) Division as a whole as 'Highlanders'.
It is more customary to refer only to soldiers of Highland regiments as 'Highlanders.' While the infantry brigades of the 51st Highland Division were made up of battalions drawn from the Highland regiments, in addition to several support units from the Corps there were units serving in the division that were not Highland- notably the Lothian and Borders Horse- or even Scottish, for example the machine gunners from the Middlesex Regiment and Royal Northumberland Fusiliers, as well as pioneer battalions of the Royal Norfolk Regiment and Royal Scots Fusiliers. These all fought or were captured at St Valery.
I suggest it would be more accurate, and do proper justice to the other troops mentioned (proud though they might be at the association), to find another portmanteau term to referring to undifferentiated portions of the division. JF42 ( talk) 20:10, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
PS you shouldn't revert talk page comment. Regards Keith-264 ( talk) 20:52, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
JF42 ( talk) 21:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
That reply and your previous reference to "far too much detail" indicate that you do indeed misunderstand both my original comment and my clarification. I am suggesting re-phrasing, not insertion of additional information. You may disagree with the suggestion. That would be a difference of opinion. JF42 ( talk) 17:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)