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It's called classical crossover. It is an official genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nottedeluce ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Should be Pavarotti included? 79.167.114.131 ( talk) 16:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Why is Michael Jackson in this list? He isn't associated with classical or crossover any bit. I don't even know any of his songs or singing referring to classical.
At least to me, Freddie Mercury was more classical-oriented. He certainly released classical, not sure if he ever did it solo.
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... ought to PUT UP the said "category" for the artists and not just delete stuff without thinking!! Obviously the remover was too lazy and just deleted everything but didn't bother putting up a category. -andy 77.7.15.132 ( talk) 12:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence of the current definition of operatic pop reads, "Operatic pop is a subgenre of pop music that is performed in an operatic style, or a song, theme or motif from classical music stylized as pop." The definition seems to describe the genre well enough, but including a list of singers under this genre is subjective at best, especially when their individual repertoires may included more than just operatic pop. How many classical numbers must a singer have in her/his repertoire? Or how "operatic" sounding should a singer of non-classical pop songs be to be classified as an operatic pop singer? The genre definition makes room for both of these approaches (e.g., classical songs sung by a pop singer, or pop songs sung in an operatic voice), but it seems to me that neither a list of songs, nor a list of singers helps to clarify the definition.
Take Jackie Evancho for example. She is known for singing in a lovely bel-canto-ish style, and has performed pieces such as Nessun Dorma and O mio babbino caro, but lately has shifted to songs from the movies. What genre does she belong to now? Renee Fleming sings part time in a rock band. She sang "In a Sentimental Mood," an old jazz standard, and "Somewhere" with Placido Domingo; should they both be added to the list? Susan Boyle just released an album of show tunes? Is she in or out? Hollie Steel's career has barely begun, so who knows what her "genre" is?
It seems to me that the definition already given explains the term well enough, and that the list of singers should be deleted. But if there is a need for examples, then maybe it would be better to decide on just a few singers whose entire repertoire and singing style best combine as clear and consistent examples of the operatic pop genre. What do you think? McNoodly ( talk) 11:53, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems out of place to have her on this list, isn't she more just straight up pop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nablais ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
If the article is going to talk about Classical Crossover vocalists only, I removed Bond from the list, as they are not a vocal group.
A new group that needs to be included in the list is Vivace, a classical crossover vocal group from Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.146.50.3 ( talk) 15:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be relevant to add Mercury and Caballé's "Barcelona" as an example of pop-opera, or pop-crossing-over-to-meet-with-opera? It was a huge event, and it certainly bridged the two styles. Caballé was singing pure operatic style in Mercury's pop composition; and Freddy sang in his pop fashion right alongside. The significance of the event also can't be over-stated. Might it not warrant inclusion in the article? It was a major event, certainly worthy of being documented in an Encyclopedia, and it certainly seemed, for all the world to see, an unimaginable pairing of different worlds. 2001:8A0:7C19:2801:A073:660:35B:F3A ( talk) 20:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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It's called classical crossover. It is an official genre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nottedeluce ( talk • contribs) 21:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Should be Pavarotti included? 79.167.114.131 ( talk) 16:27, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Why is Michael Jackson in this list? He isn't associated with classical or crossover any bit. I don't even know any of his songs or singing referring to classical.
At least to me, Freddie Mercury was more classical-oriented. He certainly released classical, not sure if he ever did it solo.
85.217.41.33 (
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19:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
... ought to PUT UP the said "category" for the artists and not just delete stuff without thinking!! Obviously the remover was too lazy and just deleted everything but didn't bother putting up a category. -andy 77.7.15.132 ( talk) 12:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
The first sentence of the current definition of operatic pop reads, "Operatic pop is a subgenre of pop music that is performed in an operatic style, or a song, theme or motif from classical music stylized as pop." The definition seems to describe the genre well enough, but including a list of singers under this genre is subjective at best, especially when their individual repertoires may included more than just operatic pop. How many classical numbers must a singer have in her/his repertoire? Or how "operatic" sounding should a singer of non-classical pop songs be to be classified as an operatic pop singer? The genre definition makes room for both of these approaches (e.g., classical songs sung by a pop singer, or pop songs sung in an operatic voice), but it seems to me that neither a list of songs, nor a list of singers helps to clarify the definition.
Take Jackie Evancho for example. She is known for singing in a lovely bel-canto-ish style, and has performed pieces such as Nessun Dorma and O mio babbino caro, but lately has shifted to songs from the movies. What genre does she belong to now? Renee Fleming sings part time in a rock band. She sang "In a Sentimental Mood," an old jazz standard, and "Somewhere" with Placido Domingo; should they both be added to the list? Susan Boyle just released an album of show tunes? Is she in or out? Hollie Steel's career has barely begun, so who knows what her "genre" is?
It seems to me that the definition already given explains the term well enough, and that the list of singers should be deleted. But if there is a need for examples, then maybe it would be better to decide on just a few singers whose entire repertoire and singing style best combine as clear and consistent examples of the operatic pop genre. What do you think? McNoodly ( talk) 11:53, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Seems out of place to have her on this list, isn't she more just straight up pop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nablais ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
If the article is going to talk about Classical Crossover vocalists only, I removed Bond from the list, as they are not a vocal group.
A new group that needs to be included in the list is Vivace, a classical crossover vocal group from Canada. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.146.50.3 ( talk) 15:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Wouldn't it be relevant to add Mercury and Caballé's "Barcelona" as an example of pop-opera, or pop-crossing-over-to-meet-with-opera? It was a huge event, and it certainly bridged the two styles. Caballé was singing pure operatic style in Mercury's pop composition; and Freddy sang in his pop fashion right alongside. The significance of the event also can't be over-stated. Might it not warrant inclusion in the article? It was a major event, certainly worthy of being documented in an Encyclopedia, and it certainly seemed, for all the world to see, an unimaginable pairing of different worlds. 2001:8A0:7C19:2801:A073:660:35B:F3A ( talk) 20:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)