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Restored article. IZAK, you are welcome to request a merge per the RfM procedure. Best, -- Shirahadasha 09:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
It looks to me like IZAK performed the merge, and then about 19 hours later, Shirahadasha opened this talk page, to discuss it retroactively, after-the-fact, I suppose. Is that what happened? If so, I don't object, I'm just wondering if I see the sequence of events accurately. Anyway, I like IZAK's reasons for merging the articles here. I don't want that material deleted, as it is a clear explanation of Rabbi Weiss's views. -- Keeves 16:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I posted this on the AfD page and I'm reposting here:
This discussion is to cease while the AFD vote takes place. No point in bickering in two different places. JFW | T@lk 20:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The article spends more time discussing the response to criticism than what the actual criticisms are, who made them, etc. Could we have a little more elaboration? As an aside, whatever anyone's opinion on OO is, I found this [1] article by Yoram Hazony very interesting - maybe someone wants to put it into this page? High Leader ( talk) 05:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
To clarify - by "put in" I mean mention Hazony's criticisms. High Leader ( talk) 06:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 20:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Open Orthodoxy → Neo-Conservative Judaism – WP:COMMONNAME; WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION? Formula per WP:CONSISTENCY with Modern Orthodox Judaism etc. PPEMES ( talk) 16:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
In 2015, the same year that Avi Weiss resigned as Senior Rabbi of Hebrew Institute of Riverdale, he and YCT/Chovevei president Asher Lopatin left the Rabbinical Council of America, RCA. Rather than shoe-horn this somewhere between words like refuse, reject, react, I placed the information (w. citation) into a new second paragraph to the lead.
Two more "RE" words follow: Reason and resign. Why exactly the resignations is not likely to easily make for a NPOV sentence, but I will now put the pair of resignations where before only one name was mentioned.
The sentence is:
I've reworded to include the sequence of YCT/1999, IRF/2007, resignation/2015, with a link to an article that has numerous direct quotes and itself shows who else covered the resignation (JTA, Jewish Week) and mentions Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, "and elsewhere."
The four paragraphs of direct quote (Weiss)are followed, but not directly, by 3 paragraphs of quotes from the co-resignee. They also mention someone who also resigned, Weiss' former assistant rabbi, who is now in Washington DC.
As for Wiki guidance, elsewhere I've seen HatNotes where info that's now in the lead are NOT there, and THAT's considered a no-no. Please indicate here, if you don't mind, what key item is not in the 1999/2007/2015 sequence. Perhaps the Maharat/Rabba matter? It's mentioned in the Yated link; should it be explictly be in the lead or is it better not telling "the butler did it" until later on. Pi314m ( talk) 02:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Restored article. IZAK, you are welcome to request a merge per the RfM procedure. Best, -- Shirahadasha 09:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
It looks to me like IZAK performed the merge, and then about 19 hours later, Shirahadasha opened this talk page, to discuss it retroactively, after-the-fact, I suppose. Is that what happened? If so, I don't object, I'm just wondering if I see the sequence of events accurately. Anyway, I like IZAK's reasons for merging the articles here. I don't want that material deleted, as it is a clear explanation of Rabbi Weiss's views. -- Keeves 16:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I posted this on the AfD page and I'm reposting here:
This discussion is to cease while the AFD vote takes place. No point in bickering in two different places. JFW | T@lk 20:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The article spends more time discussing the response to criticism than what the actual criticisms are, who made them, etc. Could we have a little more elaboration? As an aside, whatever anyone's opinion on OO is, I found this [1] article by Yoram Hazony very interesting - maybe someone wants to put it into this page? High Leader ( talk) 05:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
To clarify - by "put in" I mean mention Hazony's criticisms. High Leader ( talk) 06:01, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved ( closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 20:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Open Orthodoxy → Neo-Conservative Judaism – WP:COMMONNAME; WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION? Formula per WP:CONSISTENCY with Modern Orthodox Judaism etc. PPEMES ( talk) 16:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
In 2015, the same year that Avi Weiss resigned as Senior Rabbi of Hebrew Institute of Riverdale, he and YCT/Chovevei president Asher Lopatin left the Rabbinical Council of America, RCA. Rather than shoe-horn this somewhere between words like refuse, reject, react, I placed the information (w. citation) into a new second paragraph to the lead.
Two more "RE" words follow: Reason and resign. Why exactly the resignations is not likely to easily make for a NPOV sentence, but I will now put the pair of resignations where before only one name was mentioned.
The sentence is:
I've reworded to include the sequence of YCT/1999, IRF/2007, resignation/2015, with a link to an article that has numerous direct quotes and itself shows who else covered the resignation (JTA, Jewish Week) and mentions Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, "and elsewhere."
The four paragraphs of direct quote (Weiss)are followed, but not directly, by 3 paragraphs of quotes from the co-resignee. They also mention someone who also resigned, Weiss' former assistant rabbi, who is now in Washington DC.
As for Wiki guidance, elsewhere I've seen HatNotes where info that's now in the lead are NOT there, and THAT's considered a no-no. Please indicate here, if you don't mind, what key item is not in the 1999/2007/2015 sequence. Perhaps the Maharat/Rabba matter? It's mentioned in the Yated link; should it be explictly be in the lead or is it better not telling "the butler did it" until later on. Pi314m ( talk) 02:50, 23 June 2020 (UTC)