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$107 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced April 9, 2022. Construction to start in fall. To be completed in 2026.[11]
Pearl Lake to Mouinette (7.6 km)
In detailed design phase.
Mouinette to Dorion (8.6 km)
$71 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced December 8, 2020. Construction started end of November 2020. To be completed in September 2023.[12]
4.5 km on new alignment, remaining 4.1 kilometres are twinning of the existing highway.[12]
4 km of eastbound lanes opened from Ouimet Canyon Road to Superior Shores Road on July 11, 2022, remainder of eastbound lanes from Ouimet Canyon Road to Dorion Loop Road to open in fall, westbound lane of whole 8.6 km section from Mouimette to Dorion to open September 2023.[13]
$84.8 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced June 10, 2015.Cite error: The opening <ref> tag is malformed or has a bad name (see the
help page).
This
[6] source doesn't actually point to a document, it points to a page where two different documents can be downloaded. Neither appear to support most of what is sourced to it.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 00:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Well it does, you just don't know what to look for. These tables include traffic counts for each segment of the road, from which the highest and lowest traffic counts can be taken. Admittedly, that's an out of date document (2016 is the current version). In the second link, Highway 11 is PDF pages 15 through 19. - Floydianτ¢ 00:50, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But which of the two documents is the one being cited?
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 00:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The website itself is, it has a dropdown box. All 3 are the same document, just sorted/filtered. - Floydianτ¢ 00:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But the url actually needs to go to the exact webpage which supports the citation. Just FYI almost none of what is currently sourced to it is supported by pages 15 through 19, we're using this as a complex narrative source for things besides traffic counts.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Where? I use it to cite distances and intersections. The maps that cite the description are perfectly acceptable to use to describe the geometry of linear features. Also it does go to the webpge which supports the citation, you're just either
incompetent or desperately grasping at straws. - Floydianτ¢ 01:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
For me it takes clicks to access the data, how do you get them without clicking through to another page? The entire "Major intersections" section is sourced to it alone.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
You select 11 from the drop down and navigate it section by section... or you open the pdf which conveniently presents it on a single page. Are you browsing with a Commodore 64, or is your mouse too sticky? And yes, the major intersections are sourced to a document that, by golly, lists the intersections along the route! I've used editorial discretion to remove certain entries that are either not intersections, or are minor lot roads. If that's a problem, I suggest an RfC at
WP:LISTS. - Floydianτ¢ 01:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Mouse? Haven't used one of those in years. Where are you seeing anything which would support the notes section? For example: "North end of Highway 65 concurrency; north end of tri-Town Bypass; formerly Highway 11B south"Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The concurrency is mentioned (probably under Highway 65), as is Tri-Town Bypass and 11B. Admittedly, those notes could use an extra ref (hence the GAN). Do you have anything of substance to claim, or can I start ignoring this as circuitous, pointy, and
WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT? - Floydianτ¢ 02:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't see any concurrencies mentioned under Highway 65. Glad we agree that the notes are OR.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 04:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"N JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 OVERLAP - HWY 11 S JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 2.7km". The notes aren't OR, they don't have a proper reference. Learn the fucking difference. - Floydianτ¢ 04:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oh there it is, I was looking for concurrency not overlap. You're right, most do appear to conceivably be verifiable.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 04:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
At a cursory glance, citations seem regular and to back up facts, there aren't any banners or noteworthy inline tags. The article contains a lot of detail about the topic to which it pertains and appears to provide a comprehensive overview.
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
The prose is concise, grammar and spelling are to a high standard besides a few superficial errors I have corrected, and the article is overall easy-to-read and understandable.
This article does not cover fiction, the lead section is perhaps a bit long but absolutely passable, word choice is acceptable. Lists and layout are also appropriate.
The vast majority of sources listed are indisputably reliable. There are some links to Google Maps, which are perhaps not ideal by themselves, but are consistent in their information with other sources. There was one dead source I came across, but I have linked in an archive.
All media adds to the article and uses informative, concise descriptions.
Overall:
Pass/fail:
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Canada, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Canada on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CanadaWikipedia:WikiProject CanadaTemplate:WikiProject CanadaCanada-related articles
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roads in
Canadian provinces, territories and counties. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion.Canada RoadsWikipedia:WikiProject Canada RoadsTemplate:WikiProject Canada RoadsCanada road transport articles
$107 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced April 9, 2022. Construction to start in fall. To be completed in 2026.[11]
Pearl Lake to Mouinette (7.6 km)
In detailed design phase.
Mouinette to Dorion (8.6 km)
$71 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced December 8, 2020. Construction started end of November 2020. To be completed in September 2023.[12]
4.5 km on new alignment, remaining 4.1 kilometres are twinning of the existing highway.[12]
4 km of eastbound lanes opened from Ouimet Canyon Road to Superior Shores Road on July 11, 2022, remainder of eastbound lanes from Ouimet Canyon Road to Dorion Loop Road to open in fall, westbound lane of whole 8.6 km section from Mouimette to Dorion to open September 2023.[13]
$84.8 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced June 10, 2015.Cite error: The opening <ref> tag is malformed or has a bad name (see the
help page).
This
[6] source doesn't actually point to a document, it points to a page where two different documents can be downloaded. Neither appear to support most of what is sourced to it.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 00:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Well it does, you just don't know what to look for. These tables include traffic counts for each segment of the road, from which the highest and lowest traffic counts can be taken. Admittedly, that's an out of date document (2016 is the current version). In the second link, Highway 11 is PDF pages 15 through 19. - Floydianτ¢ 00:50, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But which of the two documents is the one being cited?
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 00:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The website itself is, it has a dropdown box. All 3 are the same document, just sorted/filtered. - Floydianτ¢ 00:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
But the url actually needs to go to the exact webpage which supports the citation. Just FYI almost none of what is currently sourced to it is supported by pages 15 through 19, we're using this as a complex narrative source for things besides traffic counts.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Where? I use it to cite distances and intersections. The maps that cite the description are perfectly acceptable to use to describe the geometry of linear features. Also it does go to the webpge which supports the citation, you're just either
incompetent or desperately grasping at straws. - Floydianτ¢ 01:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
For me it takes clicks to access the data, how do you get them without clicking through to another page? The entire "Major intersections" section is sourced to it alone.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
You select 11 from the drop down and navigate it section by section... or you open the pdf which conveniently presents it on a single page. Are you browsing with a Commodore 64, or is your mouse too sticky? And yes, the major intersections are sourced to a document that, by golly, lists the intersections along the route! I've used editorial discretion to remove certain entries that are either not intersections, or are minor lot roads. If that's a problem, I suggest an RfC at
WP:LISTS. - Floydianτ¢ 01:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Mouse? Haven't used one of those in years. Where are you seeing anything which would support the notes section? For example: "North end of Highway 65 concurrency; north end of tri-Town Bypass; formerly Highway 11B south"Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 01:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The concurrency is mentioned (probably under Highway 65), as is Tri-Town Bypass and 11B. Admittedly, those notes could use an extra ref (hence the GAN). Do you have anything of substance to claim, or can I start ignoring this as circuitous, pointy, and
WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT? - Floydianτ¢ 02:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
I don't see any concurrencies mentioned under Highway 65. Glad we agree that the notes are OR.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 04:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
"N JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 OVERLAP - HWY 11 S JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 2.7km". The notes aren't OR, they don't have a proper reference. Learn the fucking difference. - Floydianτ¢ 04:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
Oh there it is, I was looking for concurrency not overlap. You're right, most do appear to conceivably be verifiable.
Horse Eye's Back (
talk) 04:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)reply
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA review (see
here for what the criteria are, and
here for what they are not)
At a cursory glance, citations seem regular and to back up facts, there aren't any banners or noteworthy inline tags. The article contains a lot of detail about the topic to which it pertains and appears to provide a comprehensive overview.
It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
The prose is concise, grammar and spelling are to a high standard besides a few superficial errors I have corrected, and the article is overall easy-to-read and understandable.
This article does not cover fiction, the lead section is perhaps a bit long but absolutely passable, word choice is acceptable. Lists and layout are also appropriate.
The vast majority of sources listed are indisputably reliable. There are some links to Google Maps, which are perhaps not ideal by themselves, but are consistent in their information with other sources. There was one dead source I came across, but I have linked in an archive.
All media adds to the article and uses informative, concise descriptions.
Overall:
Pass/fail:
(Criteria marked are unassessed)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.