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The Example Puzzle for Round 3 is not representative, since the clues start out in random order on a 4 x 4 grid, and the example here shows them already sorted into categories. Needs work, I feel. Lee M ( talk) 19:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Sounds a good idea, I don't think the two series this year are any more or less notable than the total series at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.218.137 ( talk) 09:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Series 8 started a few weeks ago.
2.28.108.6 ( talk) 20:29, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
The section entitled "Format" could be improved if, when talking about teams, it noted how the teams have names, and gave some examples of names of teams. Vorbee ( talk) 19:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
I removed this section from the intro:
"From 6 January 2017 the show moved from Mondays to Fridays, leaving the fellow BBC Two quiz show University Challenge as the only quiz show that occupies the Monday 20:00 slot. On July 16, 2017, Only Connect host Victoria Coren Mitchell confirmed on her Twitter account that the series had been renewed for a thirteenth series which began airing on July 28, 2017 at the 8.30pm time slot on BBC Two. It was also announced that the show would move back to Monday in January 2018.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Coren M.|first1=Victoria|title=Yes, the THIRTEENTH series of Only Connect starts on Friday July 28th, 8.30pm on BBC2. Lovely to see such a drumroll around the new series|url=https://twitter.com/VictoriaCoren/status/886510265843503104|website=Twitter|accessdate=23 July 2017}}</ref>"
It feels unnecessary. It was on Mondays, now it's on Fridays, it'll be on Mondays again. I'll have no real objections if someone feels it should go back in, but please not in the intro. -- OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 15:07, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I believe this show is famous for being one of the most notoriously difficult and complex game shows on TV. Surely any article worth its salt would reference this?
I just removed the ratings section of the article as it is unencyclopaedic and fails WP:NOTTVGUIDE. If anyone has any objections to this, please post them here providing the reason does not fall under WP:PPOV or WP:ATAEW. BangJan1999 21:55, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
If you don't like the ratings could we at least have the "episode guide". Maybe on a new page, like University Challenge. NearCry ( talk) 19:51, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
There is no consensus to remove the "Ratings" section. Wikipedia:Consensus#No consensus says:
In discussions of proposals to add, modify or remove material in articles, a lack of consensus commonly results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit. However, for contentious matters related to living people, a lack of consensus often results in the removal of the contentious matter, regardless of whether the proposal was to add, modify or remove it.
The lack of consensus to remove the section means it should be retained per the policy. The section has been in the article for over five years since a September 2012 version of the article.
Editors noted that the ratings section is lengthy. One suggestion for improvement was to introduce a show/hide feature on the tables. Another suggestion was to change and trim the section. These suggestions did not achieve consensus owing to the lack of discussion but could be discussed further.
Should the Ratings section be removed? There has already been a discussion about this on the talk page. BangJan1999 16:29, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Is there a policy or guideline about TV ratings in an articles? It could be helpful to determine whether the ratings section is suitable for this article. BangJan1999 23:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
The ratings are currently commented out of the article, which is functionally no different from them being removed – readers can't see them and editors can. However, the consensus from a year ago is that they should be included in the article, albeit possibly in a summarised fashion. Is anyone planning to add them back in a shortened form? Otherwise, I'll just add them back as they were (which is closer to what consensus above decided). — Bilorv (c) (talk) 11:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I've done the best I could with the ratings but I'm not entire sure if they're correct and as I don't have the time to carry on with these I'm dumping them here in the hope someone can source and add the viewer stuff,
If it helps I've been going by the Waterloo Road layout table below, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 18:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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Individual episodes of game shows—whether it be episode results or ratings, sourced or unsourced—do not meet WP:N nor WP:EPISODE and fail WP:NOT#TVGUIDE and WP:LISTCRUFT. This is information that does not belong on Wikipedia. Please stop re-adding this content. AldezD ( talk) 23:38, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
The Series table that summarizes by season the Average viewers (millions) is acceptable. Listing a rating for every single aired episode fails the guidelines already mentioned. AldezD ( talk) 21:57, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I've added data in the summarised form in this edit, most of the work having been done by Davey2010 in the Ratings section above. Notes:
It would be nice to know who devised/created the game. It would also be nice to know if VCM herself writes her introductions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.120.159 ( talk) 18:50, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Please stop adding unreferenced listcruft of champion teams by season. AldezD ( talk) 12:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Use Template:Cite episode to source content from television episodes. Currently it is unreferenced listcruft. AldezD ( talk) 12:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Davey2010, I'm removing unsourced minutia, which you are reverting and re-adding. If you want to add the list, source it. AldezD ( talk) 14:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Davey2010, Great. Thanks for your contribution of sourced information. AldezD ( talk) 15:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
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The Example Puzzle for Round 3 is not representative, since the clues start out in random order on a 4 x 4 grid, and the example here shows them already sorted into categories. Needs work, I feel. Lee M ( talk) 19:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Sounds a good idea, I don't think the two series this year are any more or less notable than the total series at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.218.137 ( talk) 09:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Series 8 started a few weeks ago.
2.28.108.6 ( talk) 20:29, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
The section entitled "Format" could be improved if, when talking about teams, it noted how the teams have names, and gave some examples of names of teams. Vorbee ( talk) 19:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
I removed this section from the intro:
"From 6 January 2017 the show moved from Mondays to Fridays, leaving the fellow BBC Two quiz show University Challenge as the only quiz show that occupies the Monday 20:00 slot. On July 16, 2017, Only Connect host Victoria Coren Mitchell confirmed on her Twitter account that the series had been renewed for a thirteenth series which began airing on July 28, 2017 at the 8.30pm time slot on BBC Two. It was also announced that the show would move back to Monday in January 2018.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Coren M.|first1=Victoria|title=Yes, the THIRTEENTH series of Only Connect starts on Friday July 28th, 8.30pm on BBC2. Lovely to see such a drumroll around the new series|url=https://twitter.com/VictoriaCoren/status/886510265843503104|website=Twitter|accessdate=23 July 2017}}</ref>"
It feels unnecessary. It was on Mondays, now it's on Fridays, it'll be on Mondays again. I'll have no real objections if someone feels it should go back in, but please not in the intro. -- OpenToppedBus - Talk to the driver 15:07, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
I believe this show is famous for being one of the most notoriously difficult and complex game shows on TV. Surely any article worth its salt would reference this?
I just removed the ratings section of the article as it is unencyclopaedic and fails WP:NOTTVGUIDE. If anyone has any objections to this, please post them here providing the reason does not fall under WP:PPOV or WP:ATAEW. BangJan1999 21:55, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
If you don't like the ratings could we at least have the "episode guide". Maybe on a new page, like University Challenge. NearCry ( talk) 19:51, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
There is no consensus to remove the "Ratings" section. Wikipedia:Consensus#No consensus says:
In discussions of proposals to add, modify or remove material in articles, a lack of consensus commonly results in retaining the version of the article as it was prior to the proposal or bold edit. However, for contentious matters related to living people, a lack of consensus often results in the removal of the contentious matter, regardless of whether the proposal was to add, modify or remove it.
The lack of consensus to remove the section means it should be retained per the policy. The section has been in the article for over five years since a September 2012 version of the article.
Editors noted that the ratings section is lengthy. One suggestion for improvement was to introduce a show/hide feature on the tables. Another suggestion was to change and trim the section. These suggestions did not achieve consensus owing to the lack of discussion but could be discussed further.
Should the Ratings section be removed? There has already been a discussion about this on the talk page. BangJan1999 16:29, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Is there a policy or guideline about TV ratings in an articles? It could be helpful to determine whether the ratings section is suitable for this article. BangJan1999 23:28, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
The ratings are currently commented out of the article, which is functionally no different from them being removed – readers can't see them and editors can. However, the consensus from a year ago is that they should be included in the article, albeit possibly in a summarised fashion. Is anyone planning to add them back in a shortened form? Otherwise, I'll just add them back as they were (which is closer to what consensus above decided). — Bilorv (c) (talk) 11:39, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I've done the best I could with the ratings but I'm not entire sure if they're correct and as I don't have the time to carry on with these I'm dumping them here in the hope someone can source and add the viewer stuff,
If it helps I've been going by the Waterloo Road layout table below, Thanks, – Davey2010 Talk 18:24, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Waterloo Road Table
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RatingsRatings sourced from BARB. [28] Series 1
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Series 5
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Series 10
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Series 13
Specials
References
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Individual episodes of game shows—whether it be episode results or ratings, sourced or unsourced—do not meet WP:N nor WP:EPISODE and fail WP:NOT#TVGUIDE and WP:LISTCRUFT. This is information that does not belong on Wikipedia. Please stop re-adding this content. AldezD ( talk) 23:38, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
The Series table that summarizes by season the Average viewers (millions) is acceptable. Listing a rating for every single aired episode fails the guidelines already mentioned. AldezD ( talk) 21:57, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
I've added data in the summarised form in this edit, most of the work having been done by Davey2010 in the Ratings section above. Notes:
It would be nice to know who devised/created the game. It would also be nice to know if VCM herself writes her introductions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.120.159 ( talk) 18:50, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
Please stop adding unreferenced listcruft of champion teams by season. AldezD ( talk) 12:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Use Template:Cite episode to source content from television episodes. Currently it is unreferenced listcruft. AldezD ( talk) 12:29, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Davey2010, I'm removing unsourced minutia, which you are reverting and re-adding. If you want to add the list, source it. AldezD ( talk) 14:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Davey2010, Great. Thanks for your contribution of sourced information. AldezD ( talk) 15:03, 1 November 2018 (UTC)