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The first sentence of a lead should tell that what makes this topic notable. You should tell that that who organized that initiative in the first sentence. Something like - "One Day in History was a single-day initiative by several UK heritage organisations that aimed to provide a historical record of the everyday life of the British public in the early 21st century."
Done.
Described as the "world's biggest blog" - by whom?
A couple of reliable sources described it as such, including both
The Guardian and
Sky News. Should I list both?
In that case, leave it like that only.
Please use "United Kingdom (UK)" in place of UK at its first appearance. You may use only the abbreviation later in the article.
100-to-650-word diary entries >> diary entries of 100–650 words
Done.
an official website >> the official website of the initiative
Done.
formed part >> formed a part
Done.
until 1 November – 46,000 in total were uploaded in this time, including many from schoolchildren and celebrities >> until 1 November, and 46,000 entries were uploaded in this time, many of which were from students and celebrities
Done.
archive of diary entries was moved into >> archive of the diary entries was moved to
Done.
The lead says that the archive was moved to UK Web Archive, but then the article says that it was moved to both the UK Web Archive the University of Sussex
Fixed.
The lead should tell briefly about the public and media response
Added a brief sentence about the response.
Project section
launched as part of >> launched as a part of
Done.
led by heritage organisations >> led by several heritage organisations
Done
to draw attention to the importance of history in everyday life >> in order to draw attention towards the importance of history in everyday life
Done.
Members of the British public were invited each to write a blog of what they did on 17 October 2006, then to submit it to become part of an large online diary >> British people were invited to write a blog of what they did on 17 October 2006, and to submit it for becoming a part of an large online diary
Done.
with ties to the country >> of British origin
Done.
The date 17 October >> 17 October was chosen as the date
I'm willing to change this, but
WP:NUMERAL suggests that it is best either to spell numbers that begin sentences out in full, or else rewrite the sentence.
What about something like "The date was chosen to be 17 October"?
Done.
Historian Dan Snow explained the >> Historian Dan Snow explained that the
Done.
The organisers hoped that contributors could also discuss in their submission how history or heritage had impacted on their lives that day >> The organisers hoped that the contributors could also discuss the impact of history or heritage on their lives that day in their submissions
Done.
between 100 and 650 >> 100–650
Done
To allow time for drafting and proofreading >> To allow some time for drafting and proofreading
Done.
Schoolchildren >> Students
This is something else that I would be willing to change, but my only concern is that a reader inadvertently think that this referred to
university students, rather than children still at school.
I guess that you are right. Leave it like that only.
voiced their support >> voiced their support or the initiative
Done.
Public response sub-section
had grown >> grew
Done.
had been posted >> were posted
Done.
had been received >> were received
Done.
both in the >> in both the
Done.
Further comments
"The campaign received interest ... and The Sunday Times." is a little confusing. Even small things can get a mention a 2-3 newspapers. What about something like "The campaign received mixed reviews, with
Institute of Historical Research's
David Cannadine and The Guardian's Dave Hill speaking positively of it, whereas journalist John Plunkett termed it to be a "a historical record of people with computers."
The article says "draw attention to the importance of history in everyday life", but the source says,"provide future generations with a huge database of information from all sections of society, to show how we lived and, in particular, what we thought about our heritage."
Added a source that verifies this claim.
The article says that the project was partly inspired by Mass Observation, but the source only says inspired, and not partly
Done.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The Guardian article also says - "Two things. First, it's not going to be a historical record of people in 2006, it's going to be a historical record of people with computers in 2006, which are quite different things."
Dave Hill of Guardian said,"The National Trust's One Day In History mass blog was a brilliant idea."
"All 29,000 schools in Britain have been sent leaflets about the campaign, which is supported by The Daily Telegraph."
[1]
I've added the Dave Hill comment, but I believe that the other two points are already represented in the article...
On a side note,
this is a dead link. It is not a problem as we accept dead link, but you still may like to check for any archived version or place
Template:Dead link.
♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛TalkEmail 14:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)reply
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
One Day in History article. This is
not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
This article is
related to the British Library. Please copy assessments of the article from the most relevant WikiProject template to this one as needed.British LibraryWikipedia:GLAM/British LibraryTemplate:WikiProject British LibraryBritish Library-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the subject of
History on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the
United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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The first sentence of a lead should tell that what makes this topic notable. You should tell that that who organized that initiative in the first sentence. Something like - "One Day in History was a single-day initiative by several UK heritage organisations that aimed to provide a historical record of the everyday life of the British public in the early 21st century."
Done.
Described as the "world's biggest blog" - by whom?
A couple of reliable sources described it as such, including both
The Guardian and
Sky News. Should I list both?
In that case, leave it like that only.
Please use "United Kingdom (UK)" in place of UK at its first appearance. You may use only the abbreviation later in the article.
100-to-650-word diary entries >> diary entries of 100–650 words
Done.
an official website >> the official website of the initiative
Done.
formed part >> formed a part
Done.
until 1 November – 46,000 in total were uploaded in this time, including many from schoolchildren and celebrities >> until 1 November, and 46,000 entries were uploaded in this time, many of which were from students and celebrities
Done.
archive of diary entries was moved into >> archive of the diary entries was moved to
Done.
The lead says that the archive was moved to UK Web Archive, but then the article says that it was moved to both the UK Web Archive the University of Sussex
Fixed.
The lead should tell briefly about the public and media response
Added a brief sentence about the response.
Project section
launched as part of >> launched as a part of
Done.
led by heritage organisations >> led by several heritage organisations
Done
to draw attention to the importance of history in everyday life >> in order to draw attention towards the importance of history in everyday life
Done.
Members of the British public were invited each to write a blog of what they did on 17 October 2006, then to submit it to become part of an large online diary >> British people were invited to write a blog of what they did on 17 October 2006, and to submit it for becoming a part of an large online diary
Done.
with ties to the country >> of British origin
Done.
The date 17 October >> 17 October was chosen as the date
I'm willing to change this, but
WP:NUMERAL suggests that it is best either to spell numbers that begin sentences out in full, or else rewrite the sentence.
What about something like "The date was chosen to be 17 October"?
Done.
Historian Dan Snow explained the >> Historian Dan Snow explained that the
Done.
The organisers hoped that contributors could also discuss in their submission how history or heritage had impacted on their lives that day >> The organisers hoped that the contributors could also discuss the impact of history or heritage on their lives that day in their submissions
Done.
between 100 and 650 >> 100–650
Done
To allow time for drafting and proofreading >> To allow some time for drafting and proofreading
Done.
Schoolchildren >> Students
This is something else that I would be willing to change, but my only concern is that a reader inadvertently think that this referred to
university students, rather than children still at school.
I guess that you are right. Leave it like that only.
voiced their support >> voiced their support or the initiative
Done.
Public response sub-section
had grown >> grew
Done.
had been posted >> were posted
Done.
had been received >> were received
Done.
both in the >> in both the
Done.
Further comments
"The campaign received interest ... and The Sunday Times." is a little confusing. Even small things can get a mention a 2-3 newspapers. What about something like "The campaign received mixed reviews, with
Institute of Historical Research's
David Cannadine and The Guardian's Dave Hill speaking positively of it, whereas journalist John Plunkett termed it to be a "a historical record of people with computers."
The article says "draw attention to the importance of history in everyday life", but the source says,"provide future generations with a huge database of information from all sections of society, to show how we lived and, in particular, what we thought about our heritage."
Added a source that verifies this claim.
The article says that the project was partly inspired by Mass Observation, but the source only says inspired, and not partly
Done.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The Guardian article also says - "Two things. First, it's not going to be a historical record of people in 2006, it's going to be a historical record of people with computers in 2006, which are quite different things."
Dave Hill of Guardian said,"The National Trust's One Day In History mass blog was a brilliant idea."
"All 29,000 schools in Britain have been sent leaflets about the campaign, which is supported by The Daily Telegraph."
[1]
I've added the Dave Hill comment, but I believe that the other two points are already represented in the article...
On a side note,
this is a dead link. It is not a problem as we accept dead link, but you still may like to check for any archived version or place
Template:Dead link.
♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛TalkEmail 14:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)reply