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The article fails to mention Bill Clinton's visit to Omagh shortly after the bombing.Not only was he the first American president to visit Northern Ireland,he was also the first to display interest in The Troubles.-- jeanne ( talk) 13:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry ONIH, I'd forgotten he visited Fermanagh where some of his ancestors came from.I think it is important that he visited Omagh-perhaps I'll jeanne ( talk) 15:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC) add it later.
Clinton claims that some of his ancestors came from Fermanagh. There is no proof of this, and the locals are fairly cynical about the claim, though he is keen to advance it. In contrast, Tony Blair, whose mother was Irish born and bred, rarely mentions it. This is not to detract in any way from the good work both Clinton and Blair did in bringing peace to the north. Millbanks ( talk) 16:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. You make various good points. Clinton's ancestry, real or purported, has little to do with this article. And yes, I shouldn't have inserted words into your comments. But simply to state that some of Clinton's ancestors came from Fermanagh is not accurate, or rather not proven. I'm happy to continue this discussion, but I think we'd both agree that this page is not the place for it. Millbanks ( talk) 19:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The names of the bomb victims should be listed in the article. Instead of having to link onto another site, a reader should be able to find the names here in the Wikipedia article. Do any of the editors agree with me that the list should be included especially as the tenth anniversary of the bombing has just passed ?-- jeanne ( talk) 07:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought Lihaas ( talk) 16:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
There had been an external link to the list of victims, as agreed after the last time the list of victims was removed, but it seems that it was excised at some stage. I've added it back in to the external links, along with a link to the Omagh Support & Self Help Group. Bastun BaStun not BaTsun 17:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
There are related discussions here, here and here. -- Domer48 'fenian' 17:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
When the person called in the warning to Ulster Television, is it possible they said "the main street" and not "Main Street"? Seeing as there is no such street in Omagh called Main Street, and besides, that name is used primarily in America not Ireland. In Ireland and Britain, the name "High Street" is preferred, and in fact, is the name of the street which leads up to the courthouse in Omagh, where the bomb was said to have been, according to the warning. It's very possible that Margaret Hall, who has admitted she found it hard to understand the caller, failed to detect that word "the", because had she relayed the information with the main street as the site of the bomb, the police would have had to assume the bomb could be anywhere along the main street in Omagh which includes Market Street as well as High Street. The RUC presumed that Main Street was mistakenly given for the correct High Street, especially as they mentioned the courthouse. However, to someone unfamiliar with Omagh's streets, the caller could have meant that the bomb was located on the main street of Omagh where the courthouse was. I have visited Omagh. That "main street" which begins as Market Street and leads up to High Street is really very short. It would have been easy for the caller to mistake the distance from Lower Market Street to the courthouse. The caller never said in his call that the bomb was AT the courthouse, he gave a specified distance, which changed at the subsequent call.-- jeanne ( talk) 06:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The article fails to mention Bill Clinton's visit to Omagh shortly after the bombing.Not only was he the first American president to visit Northern Ireland,he was also the first to display interest in The Troubles.-- jeanne ( talk) 13:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry ONIH, I'd forgotten he visited Fermanagh where some of his ancestors came from.I think it is important that he visited Omagh-perhaps I'll jeanne ( talk) 15:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC) add it later.
Clinton claims that some of his ancestors came from Fermanagh. There is no proof of this, and the locals are fairly cynical about the claim, though he is keen to advance it. In contrast, Tony Blair, whose mother was Irish born and bred, rarely mentions it. This is not to detract in any way from the good work both Clinton and Blair did in bringing peace to the north. Millbanks ( talk) 16:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. You make various good points. Clinton's ancestry, real or purported, has little to do with this article. And yes, I shouldn't have inserted words into your comments. But simply to state that some of Clinton's ancestors came from Fermanagh is not accurate, or rather not proven. I'm happy to continue this discussion, but I think we'd both agree that this page is not the place for it. Millbanks ( talk) 19:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
The names of the bomb victims should be listed in the article. Instead of having to link onto another site, a reader should be able to find the names here in the Wikipedia article. Do any of the editors agree with me that the list should be included especially as the tenth anniversary of the bombing has just passed ?-- jeanne ( talk) 07:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought Lihaas ( talk) 16:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
There had been an external link to the list of victims, as agreed after the last time the list of victims was removed, but it seems that it was excised at some stage. I've added it back in to the external links, along with a link to the Omagh Support & Self Help Group. Bastun BaStun not BaTsun 17:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
There are related discussions here, here and here. -- Domer48 'fenian' 17:10, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
When the person called in the warning to Ulster Television, is it possible they said "the main street" and not "Main Street"? Seeing as there is no such street in Omagh called Main Street, and besides, that name is used primarily in America not Ireland. In Ireland and Britain, the name "High Street" is preferred, and in fact, is the name of the street which leads up to the courthouse in Omagh, where the bomb was said to have been, according to the warning. It's very possible that Margaret Hall, who has admitted she found it hard to understand the caller, failed to detect that word "the", because had she relayed the information with the main street as the site of the bomb, the police would have had to assume the bomb could be anywhere along the main street in Omagh which includes Market Street as well as High Street. The RUC presumed that Main Street was mistakenly given for the correct High Street, especially as they mentioned the courthouse. However, to someone unfamiliar with Omagh's streets, the caller could have meant that the bomb was located on the main street of Omagh where the courthouse was. I have visited Omagh. That "main street" which begins as Market Street and leads up to High Street is really very short. It would have been easy for the caller to mistake the distance from Lower Market Street to the courthouse. The caller never said in his call that the bomb was AT the courthouse, he gave a specified distance, which changed at the subsequent call.-- jeanne ( talk) 06:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)