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"The meaning of the cognomen Skötkonung is disputed. One theory holds that "Sk" /ɧ/ is an ancient version or distortion of "G" /j/, and that thus, "Skötkonung" /ɧøːtkoːnɵŋː/ would really be "Götkonung" /jøːtkoːnɵŋː/, meaning "King of the Geatas"."
I think that providing the theories of the name is beneficial and can't see why it should be deleted. As for factuality, we're talking about a king that lived over a thousand years ago, so whatever there is to be found it is all just myths and speculation anyway. To help the situation, I have compiled a list of theories that can explain the name:
[1]
How about building houses instead of throwing rocks?
Ion seal 10:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The disambiguation page has him as St Olaf of Sweden, as does this site. Is this enough for it to be mentioned in the article? -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 15:44, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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For the 2nd time I have removed the George-Washington-descent stuff now with a blog-type source which definitely is unreliable. Genealogical entries all over the Internet are particularly infested with humbug and must be reliably sourced. Descent from ancient Scandinavian kings cannot be proven. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 11:55, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
@ Pisarz12345: I have looked at the material you've added on Olof's supposed sainthood, and I'm not impressed. Some of the references are to blogs and the likes, which are not suitably reliable. One source claims that he was christened by Ansgar, which is patently false as there was a gap of over a hundred years between them. Except for one of the references - that to katolsk.no, the Catholic church in Norway -, not one of them gives any further reference to anything more than a vague "legend". Katolsk.no does appear to have attempted to do some wider reading, and even if parts of what it writes on the life of Olof is rather uncritical, it does explicitly deny that Olof was martyred. It should also be noted that Wikipedia is among the sources it lists, so I would not take it too seriously.
It should also be noted that Olof is not noted as a saint in Svenskt Biografiskt lexikon, the first place one should look when doing any sort of serious biographical work on historical swedes.
This leads me to conclude that the only legend of Olof seems to be one that lives on internet pages. If Olof is venerated as a saint somewhere, a source that talks about specifics would be far more compelling than lists of saint, compiled more to be long and impressive than with serious scholarship in mind.
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Att: Berig
"The meaning of the cognomen Skötkonung is disputed. One theory holds that "Sk" /ɧ/ is an ancient version or distortion of "G" /j/, and that thus, "Skötkonung" /ɧøːtkoːnɵŋː/ would really be "Götkonung" /jøːtkoːnɵŋː/, meaning "King of the Geatas"."
I think that providing the theories of the name is beneficial and can't see why it should be deleted. As for factuality, we're talking about a king that lived over a thousand years ago, so whatever there is to be found it is all just myths and speculation anyway. To help the situation, I have compiled a list of theories that can explain the name:
[1]
How about building houses instead of throwing rocks?
Ion seal 10:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
The disambiguation page has him as St Olaf of Sweden, as does this site. Is this enough for it to be mentioned in the article? -- Richardson mcphillips ( talk) 15:44, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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For the 2nd time I have removed the George-Washington-descent stuff now with a blog-type source which definitely is unreliable. Genealogical entries all over the Internet are particularly infested with humbug and must be reliably sourced. Descent from ancient Scandinavian kings cannot be proven. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 11:55, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
@ Pisarz12345: I have looked at the material you've added on Olof's supposed sainthood, and I'm not impressed. Some of the references are to blogs and the likes, which are not suitably reliable. One source claims that he was christened by Ansgar, which is patently false as there was a gap of over a hundred years between them. Except for one of the references - that to katolsk.no, the Catholic church in Norway -, not one of them gives any further reference to anything more than a vague "legend". Katolsk.no does appear to have attempted to do some wider reading, and even if parts of what it writes on the life of Olof is rather uncritical, it does explicitly deny that Olof was martyred. It should also be noted that Wikipedia is among the sources it lists, so I would not take it too seriously.
It should also be noted that Olof is not noted as a saint in Svenskt Biografiskt lexikon, the first place one should look when doing any sort of serious biographical work on historical swedes.
This leads me to conclude that the only legend of Olof seems to be one that lives on internet pages. If Olof is venerated as a saint somewhere, a source that talks about specifics would be far more compelling than lists of saint, compiled more to be long and impressive than with serious scholarship in mind.