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I can't work out what order these events are in:
I assume the dame-school was some kind of pre-primary and it was in Portsmouth. Then in 1916 she moves to Northern Ireland. Then in the next sentence we're in Bangor - I'm not sure where that is, but I think it's somewhere in Britain. So I'd like to be told how old she was when this happened, and where Bangor is. And then shes in Portsmouth - but when? Perhaps the para could be re-written along the lines of:
Just a suggestion. PiCo ( talk) 03:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Further to the above, Olivia Manning could not have been educated at Portsmouth Grammar School since it was all boys at the time. The school does not seem to claim her as a former pupil either. Poshseagull ( talk) 07:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Another question: "Manning's first published works were three serialized detective novels, "Rose of Rubies", "Here is Murder" and "The Black Scarab" written in 1929 under the pseudonym Jacob Morrow." Were they actually written in 1929, or just published? To write 3 novels in 1 year is a major achievement! PiCo ( talk) 05:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I read somewhere that Manning and Durrell met in Egypt and didn't get on - very different personalities. At that time neither was famous, of course, but they both moved in the literary circles of wartime Cairo/Alexandria - a Golden Age forsooth. Worth mentioning? PiCo ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I cut the lead back considerably, trying to show the reader - the one who never actually gets past the lead - exactly why she's notable. In essence she was a one-hit wonder, but the one hit was six novels long, and easily comparable to, say, the Sword of Honour trilogy. (And some of her other work was extremely light - a novel about some goings-on in the Indian Ocean which features a spider which can spread a deadly disease...spiders can't spread anything sweety, they kill their prey with poison, it dies before it has a chance to get ill). The material I cut can go in the body of the article, but the lead should be reserved for showing the essence. Of course, if you disagree, I shall defer :) PiCo ( talk) 01:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
In the section Greece and Egypt, the sentence leading to footnote #56 says: "From Alexandria they woved to Cairo..." I can't tell what the word woved means. If it's a typo, what word should it be? Ed8r ( talk) 18:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Just googling the dear old crab - several sites give 1911 as YOB. I'm sure they're wrong, but given the disagreement, it might be worth giving a ref in the article for your correct info on this controversial point. PiCo ( talk) 07:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I think it might work better if the sections Fortunes of War and Lit Asses were combined (note the careful use of the subjunctive mood there, you don't often see that these days).
I'd put FOW on top - it's what she's famous for, and it's a very substantial body of work. (Durrell is famous for almost nothing but Alexandria,and that's only 4 books). That will lead nicely into your existing Style and Technique subsection. But it might also be worth having a para on her remaining fiction, concentrating esp on that Jerusalem book - I haven't read it, but it seems to be regarded as a good one.
So what I'm suggesting is a section headed Achievement (maybe - what do other lit biogs have? Henry James?) with a section Major Works (FOW plus the rest, esp the Jerusalem book), Reception (instead of Style and Technique, because it doesn't actually go into that aspect - she was not a traditional 19th century realist rather than a 20th century modernist, IMO, but what would I know), and Major Themes. PiCo ( talk) 06:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Nice, informative article. I came here seeking info after watching the BBC miniseries Fortunes of War. Thanks very much to Slp1, who seems to be mainly responsible for this article. Softlavender ( talk) 08:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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I can't work out what order these events are in:
I assume the dame-school was some kind of pre-primary and it was in Portsmouth. Then in 1916 she moves to Northern Ireland. Then in the next sentence we're in Bangor - I'm not sure where that is, but I think it's somewhere in Britain. So I'd like to be told how old she was when this happened, and where Bangor is. And then shes in Portsmouth - but when? Perhaps the para could be re-written along the lines of:
Just a suggestion. PiCo ( talk) 03:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Further to the above, Olivia Manning could not have been educated at Portsmouth Grammar School since it was all boys at the time. The school does not seem to claim her as a former pupil either. Poshseagull ( talk) 07:52, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Another question: "Manning's first published works were three serialized detective novels, "Rose of Rubies", "Here is Murder" and "The Black Scarab" written in 1929 under the pseudonym Jacob Morrow." Were they actually written in 1929, or just published? To write 3 novels in 1 year is a major achievement! PiCo ( talk) 05:26, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I read somewhere that Manning and Durrell met in Egypt and didn't get on - very different personalities. At that time neither was famous, of course, but they both moved in the literary circles of wartime Cairo/Alexandria - a Golden Age forsooth. Worth mentioning? PiCo ( talk) 12:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I cut the lead back considerably, trying to show the reader - the one who never actually gets past the lead - exactly why she's notable. In essence she was a one-hit wonder, but the one hit was six novels long, and easily comparable to, say, the Sword of Honour trilogy. (And some of her other work was extremely light - a novel about some goings-on in the Indian Ocean which features a spider which can spread a deadly disease...spiders can't spread anything sweety, they kill their prey with poison, it dies before it has a chance to get ill). The material I cut can go in the body of the article, but the lead should be reserved for showing the essence. Of course, if you disagree, I shall defer :) PiCo ( talk) 01:36, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
In the section Greece and Egypt, the sentence leading to footnote #56 says: "From Alexandria they woved to Cairo..." I can't tell what the word woved means. If it's a typo, what word should it be? Ed8r ( talk) 18:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Just googling the dear old crab - several sites give 1911 as YOB. I'm sure they're wrong, but given the disagreement, it might be worth giving a ref in the article for your correct info on this controversial point. PiCo ( talk) 07:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I think it might work better if the sections Fortunes of War and Lit Asses were combined (note the careful use of the subjunctive mood there, you don't often see that these days).
I'd put FOW on top - it's what she's famous for, and it's a very substantial body of work. (Durrell is famous for almost nothing but Alexandria,and that's only 4 books). That will lead nicely into your existing Style and Technique subsection. But it might also be worth having a para on her remaining fiction, concentrating esp on that Jerusalem book - I haven't read it, but it seems to be regarded as a good one.
So what I'm suggesting is a section headed Achievement (maybe - what do other lit biogs have? Henry James?) with a section Major Works (FOW plus the rest, esp the Jerusalem book), Reception (instead of Style and Technique, because it doesn't actually go into that aspect - she was not a traditional 19th century realist rather than a 20th century modernist, IMO, but what would I know), and Major Themes. PiCo ( talk) 06:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Nice, informative article. I came here seeking info after watching the BBC miniseries Fortunes of War. Thanks very much to Slp1, who seems to be mainly responsible for this article. Softlavender ( talk) 08:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
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