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According to this, he has been shotted at the scene of Maidan by sniper. -- Norden1990 ( talk) 22:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I factchecked it and plenty of hits came up on google. Reuters: "Ukraine's acting prime minister and Yanukovich rival Oleksander Turchinov" -- Львівське ( говорити) 07:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I changed the info on the Victor Yanukovych page, but he is prime minister even if his function is only as the speaker of parliament? This source ( http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/22/live-updates-protesters-take-over-kyiv-parliament-releases-tymoschenko/) only mentions that he is speaker of parliament currently. That would indicate that the presidency is currently vacant, wouldn't it? Thanks, David O. Johnson ( talk) 07:12, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. David O. Johnson ( talk) 07:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Under "controversy" it states
Wikileaks documents mention Turchynov, then head of Ukraine's SBU, as having destroyed documents implicating Yulia Tymoshenko's alleged connections to organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich.[21]
However, when you open the link (21) all you can read is:
New and conflicting details emerge over Mogilevich’s alleged involvement in nation
and
"Former security service chief Oleksandr Turchynov said he didn’t order the destruction of a case file on reputed mobster Semyon Mogilevich. "
There is no mention of WikiLeaks and/or allegation of Turchynov destroying the documents. If this information is not available, perhaps it should be edited that "Wikileks allegedly mention.... etc. 87.110.180.50 ( talk) 09:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Turchynov was not appointed acting Prime Minister. The source given is erroneous. Arbuzov was never dismissed from being acting Prime Minister, while Turchynov due to situation in the country, was appointed coordinator of Cabinet of Minister (not Prime Minister). Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 00:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
The first paragraph states that Putin doesn't consider legitimate. How is that relevant? Should we list all the officials who do consider him legitmate? Does Putin decide which foreign officials are legitimate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.78.176.222 ( talk) 23:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
De jure, de facto, and ex officio--fancy legal terms--IMO add nothing to this article. Just make it sound like first-year law review got hold of it. These terms make legal judgments. As such, need to cite sources for the use of the terms or use other plain language actually supported by the sources. Paavo273 ( talk) 21:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
The terms make no legal judgements, by recognising him as 'de jure' or not governments make legal judgements. I am just reporting how different governments view. I could change them for 'in fact' and 'in law' but the Latin terms are universal in diplomacy. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 21:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Have now made the same point in the lead sticking more closely to sources. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 08:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
There is nothing obscure about 'de facto': the BBC uses it today "Moscow remains in de facto control of Ukraine's southern autonomous region." [1] Sceptic1954 ( talk) 09:14, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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This edit. Why this seemingly insignificant episode has been included? The only possible explanation is probably in the source [1] which tells: "Yarosh takes credit for starting the war in Donbass". However, this is clearly not the case and rather a conspiracy theory because Yarosh did not start the war in Donbass, as should be known to anyone familiar with the subject. This should be removed, at least from this page (having it on the page about war in Slavyansk is obviously fine). In addition, this is a content fork included in several pages. My very best wishes ( talk) 14:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Why are there most of Turchynov's photos exclusively with Oleh Tyahnybok and no one else??? Is Tyahnybok like a really heavy-weight politician in Ukraine? Of course, not. But looking at the article it looks as Tyahnybok is a really decision maker or something. Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 19:22, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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According to this, he has been shotted at the scene of Maidan by sniper. -- Norden1990 ( talk) 22:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I factchecked it and plenty of hits came up on google. Reuters: "Ukraine's acting prime minister and Yanukovich rival Oleksander Turchinov" -- Львівське ( говорити) 07:07, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
I changed the info on the Victor Yanukovych page, but he is prime minister even if his function is only as the speaker of parliament? This source ( http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/22/live-updates-protesters-take-over-kyiv-parliament-releases-tymoschenko/) only mentions that he is speaker of parliament currently. That would indicate that the presidency is currently vacant, wouldn't it? Thanks, David O. Johnson ( talk) 07:12, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. David O. Johnson ( talk) 07:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Under "controversy" it states
Wikileaks documents mention Turchynov, then head of Ukraine's SBU, as having destroyed documents implicating Yulia Tymoshenko's alleged connections to organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich.[21]
However, when you open the link (21) all you can read is:
New and conflicting details emerge over Mogilevich’s alleged involvement in nation
and
"Former security service chief Oleksandr Turchynov said he didn’t order the destruction of a case file on reputed mobster Semyon Mogilevich. "
There is no mention of WikiLeaks and/or allegation of Turchynov destroying the documents. If this information is not available, perhaps it should be edited that "Wikileks allegedly mention.... etc. 87.110.180.50 ( talk) 09:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
Turchynov was not appointed acting Prime Minister. The source given is erroneous. Arbuzov was never dismissed from being acting Prime Minister, while Turchynov due to situation in the country, was appointed coordinator of Cabinet of Minister (not Prime Minister). Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 00:07, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
The first paragraph states that Putin doesn't consider legitimate. How is that relevant? Should we list all the officials who do consider him legitmate? Does Putin decide which foreign officials are legitimate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.78.176.222 ( talk) 23:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
De jure, de facto, and ex officio--fancy legal terms--IMO add nothing to this article. Just make it sound like first-year law review got hold of it. These terms make legal judgments. As such, need to cite sources for the use of the terms or use other plain language actually supported by the sources. Paavo273 ( talk) 21:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
The terms make no legal judgements, by recognising him as 'de jure' or not governments make legal judgements. I am just reporting how different governments view. I could change them for 'in fact' and 'in law' but the Latin terms are universal in diplomacy. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 21:38, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Have now made the same point in the lead sticking more closely to sources. Sceptic1954 ( talk) 08:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
There is nothing obscure about 'de facto': the BBC uses it today "Moscow remains in de facto control of Ukraine's southern autonomous region." [1] Sceptic1954 ( talk) 09:14, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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This edit. Why this seemingly insignificant episode has been included? The only possible explanation is probably in the source [1] which tells: "Yarosh takes credit for starting the war in Donbass". However, this is clearly not the case and rather a conspiracy theory because Yarosh did not start the war in Donbass, as should be known to anyone familiar with the subject. This should be removed, at least from this page (having it on the page about war in Slavyansk is obviously fine). In addition, this is a content fork included in several pages. My very best wishes ( talk) 14:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Why are there most of Turchynov's photos exclusively with Oleh Tyahnybok and no one else??? Is Tyahnybok like a really heavy-weight politician in Ukraine? Of course, not. But looking at the article it looks as Tyahnybok is a really decision maker or something. Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 19:22, 30 June 2020 (UTC)