Since a chain is approximately 20 metres, a conversion to the nearest 10 m would not be overprecise: 45
chains (0.91 km). Note that the distance between the same two stations on the Northern line is less, at 0.69 km. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
09:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
"Several London Buses routes serve the station," - could you rephrase this to avoid the double plural.
Done
"Six people were taken to hospital for minor injuries." - Presumably the elevator stopped. Why was anybody injured?
Clarified
"acts as a final destination for people travelling with National Rail tickets marked "London Terminals"" - Are we talking here about travellers from say Welwyn Garden City? Why should it be their final destination?
Yes, the basic idea behind stations in the
London station group is that if you have a "London Terminals" ticket and get off a train at Old Street, you can't get on the tube or any other service without buying another ticket or using some other payment such as an
Oyster Card or contactless.
In the "Services" section, please state the direction of travel with reference to the "preceding" and "following" stations.
Looking at the lead now, I see "about 700 metres (0.43 mi)". It would be best go be consistent as to whether you give metric or imperial precedence.
This fact isn't in the body, and I'm not sure why it's important - for a typical reader, knowing which travelcard zone it's in is more useful. I've removed it.
"planned to become more important " - I would have thought "expected" would be better.
The lead is supposed to be a summary of the rest of the main body of text and I would have thought that that would have trumped consistency between articles. It's a very impressive statistic.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk)
17:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Okay; I've changed the lead to reflect this. In this specific case, Old Street is enjoying a significant renaissance as a stop, which the other stations aren't particularly.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)20:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The infobox provides some impressive statistics for increased footfall which seems to have tripled between 2014 and 2016. Are these figures just National Rail, or do they include the underground users?
Something doesn't look right - the infobox gives a 2016 entry/exit figure as 5.324 million, yet the Evening Standard source claims 23 million people visit the station every year.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)09:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The Evening Standard figure (which merely says "Every year 23 million people pass through the station, and it is open for 20 hours a day.") probably includes interchanges and also London Underground. The 2016-17 figure in the infobox is entries and exits only, excluding interchange, but I don't know whether this figure is for National Rail alone or if it also includes London Underground. However,
this press release from November 2015 may help to explain the increase. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
09:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The usage statistics that were shown are only those for national rail. There are separate statistics for the Underground. The Underground statistics (and those for the DLR, where relevant) are included in the infobox automatically from a set of templates embedded in the infobox that are activated only if the station is a tube or DLR station. There are switches for this in the infobox code which are triggered if one of the symbol1, symbol2, sybmbol3, etc. parameters is set to "underground" or "DLR". The National rail statistic have to be input manually. I've added the symbol parameters, so the icons appear in the top of the infobox next to the name and the tube stats appear.--
DavidCane (
talk)
18:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Since a chain is approximately 20 metres, a conversion to the nearest 10 m would not be overprecise: 45
chains (0.91 km). Note that the distance between the same two stations on the Northern line is less, at 0.69 km. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
09:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
"Several London Buses routes serve the station," - could you rephrase this to avoid the double plural.
Done
"Six people were taken to hospital for minor injuries." - Presumably the elevator stopped. Why was anybody injured?
Clarified
"acts as a final destination for people travelling with National Rail tickets marked "London Terminals"" - Are we talking here about travellers from say Welwyn Garden City? Why should it be their final destination?
Yes, the basic idea behind stations in the
London station group is that if you have a "London Terminals" ticket and get off a train at Old Street, you can't get on the tube or any other service without buying another ticket or using some other payment such as an
Oyster Card or contactless.
In the "Services" section, please state the direction of travel with reference to the "preceding" and "following" stations.
Looking at the lead now, I see "about 700 metres (0.43 mi)". It would be best go be consistent as to whether you give metric or imperial precedence.
This fact isn't in the body, and I'm not sure why it's important - for a typical reader, knowing which travelcard zone it's in is more useful. I've removed it.
"planned to become more important " - I would have thought "expected" would be better.
The lead is supposed to be a summary of the rest of the main body of text and I would have thought that that would have trumped consistency between articles. It's a very impressive statistic.
Cwmhiraeth (
talk)
17:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Okay; I've changed the lead to reflect this. In this specific case, Old Street is enjoying a significant renaissance as a stop, which the other stations aren't particularly.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)20:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The infobox provides some impressive statistics for increased footfall which seems to have tripled between 2014 and 2016. Are these figures just National Rail, or do they include the underground users?
Something doesn't look right - the infobox gives a 2016 entry/exit figure as 5.324 million, yet the Evening Standard source claims 23 million people visit the station every year.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont)09:20, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The Evening Standard figure (which merely says "Every year 23 million people pass through the station, and it is open for 20 hours a day.") probably includes interchanges and also London Underground. The 2016-17 figure in the infobox is entries and exits only, excluding interchange, but I don't know whether this figure is for National Rail alone or if it also includes London Underground. However,
this press release from November 2015 may help to explain the increase. --
Redrose64 🌹 (
talk)
09:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The usage statistics that were shown are only those for national rail. There are separate statistics for the Underground. The Underground statistics (and those for the DLR, where relevant) are included in the infobox automatically from a set of templates embedded in the infobox that are activated only if the station is a tube or DLR station. There are switches for this in the infobox code which are triggered if one of the symbol1, symbol2, sybmbol3, etc. parameters is set to "underground" or "DLR". The National rail statistic have to be input manually. I've added the symbol parameters, so the icons appear in the top of the infobox next to the name and the tube stats appear.--
DavidCane (
talk)
18:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)reply