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Parliament House (India) → Sansad Bhavan – Official as well as common name utilised for building. Hence, would be better than to use a general name for other corresponding buildings. Aman Kumar Goel ( Talk) 12:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Last year, I removed some claims about Parliament House's design being inspired by the Chausath Yogini Temple in Morena, because I could find no source supporting that statement. I see that the claim has been added again, this time with this Hindustan Times article as a citation, and is featured prominently in the lead. However, I am still unable to find any evidence that the claim is reliable - in fact, it is highly likely that the author of that article copied from Wikipedia rather than the other way round - the article was written on 31 January 2020, and the claim about the Chausath Yogini Temple had existed on this article prior to that, without a citation. I have been unable to find any historical source that corroborates this temple-inspiration factoid, although this opinion piece in The Hindu asserts - without citations - that 'some historical records' mention it. Another similarly unreliable citation is this photo-op for NDTV, which leaves an open-ended question - "there may have been the designer and builders of the Indian Parliament House in New Delhi. They say that its architecture is very much like mine. Do you think so too?" rather than something concrete. The webpage of the Archaeological Society of India mentioned as a citation in the article also does not mention it, while the Google Books link that supposedly corroborates the fact is unreadable - I cannot read page 21 because GBooks' "Snippet View" does not allow it. A search for 'Chausath Yogini Temple' in the book from GBooks' search bar yields no results. A search on JSTOR also yielded no results.
Considering the above, I propose that this fact be removed, unless better, older and more reliable citations can be found, like maybe the works of Lutyens or Baker themselves, or of other qualified historians. Except for the low, circular exterior, there is no obvious similarity in the buildings' architecture, particularly in the interior. I am not saying the fact is outright wrong - yet - because it not unlikely that it was indeed temple-inspired, since Lutyens' architecture does incorporate lots of native Indian elements. The reason I want the facts removed is so that we do not start urban legends, like that Hindustan Times article.
@ Aman.kumar.goel: Pinging you as you are an active and experienced contributor. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 06:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
...There is also the conjecture of famous Indian temples and monuments serving as inspiration for the buildings being designed by the British. “Lutyens and Baker were sent off this tour to look at examples of Indian architecture. They also might have seen photographs collected by the Archeological Survey of India. So even though there is no proof of them emulating Indian monuments, it is not inconceivable that they might have done so,” says Liddle over the phone. “For instance, the fact that the Sanchi stupa was the model for the Rashtrapati Bhavan is quite obvious,” she says.Similarly, one is often struck by the similarity in structure and design of the Parliament House and the Chausath Yogini Temple at Mitawli village in Morena district near Gwalior, Madhya Pradesh. “Again we have no proof that they went to Mitawli or that they saw this temple, but at the same time it is not inconceivable that it might have served as an inspiration,” says Liddle.....TrangaBellam ( talk) 09:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
This article is about the circular building. There is simply no need to include such large amounts of detail about the new biulding that will eventually house Parliament. A small paragraph, like the one found at Central Vista Redevelopment Project will suffice, with a "main article" link to a new article, say New Indian parliament building, where all information about the new parliament building can be held. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 05:46, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Why there is no mention of Bombings done by Hindustan Socialist Republic Association, isn't it is the same place where that took place in 1930. Ref [1] Rock Stone Gold Castle ( talk) 13:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Transfer of ownerhsip was done on 14 August, 1947 as mentioned on
The Print - https://theprint.in/india/following-nehrus-footsteps-modi-to-invoke-old-chola-tradition-to-inaugurate-new-parliament/1592071/
The Hindu - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/inspired-by-cholas-handed-over-by-british-to-nehru-historic-sengol-to-be-installed-in-new-parliament-building/article66888185.ece
The Indian Express = https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-history/sengol-new-parliament-significance-nehru-8626977/
So corrected the article which was mentioned for Gov of India from 1950 - present to 1947 to present
-- ~~~~ Iamrajdeepdas ( talk) 14:01, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
change page name to old Parliament house New Delhi because we have now a new parliament building. Socialworkerindia863 ( talk) 12:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
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As both the houses of parliament have already approved the renaming of the old building as Samvidhan Sadan after the Parliament has officially shifted to New Complex, it would be appropriate to rename the entire page as Samvidhan Sadan. Karan.jr.Singh ( talk) 11:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Quite a nice closing comment you gave for the readers and other editors, didn't you? PadFoot2008 ( talk) 08:12, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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On 24 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Old Parliament House of India. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Parliament House (India) → Sansad Bhavan – Official as well as common name utilised for building. Hence, would be better than to use a general name for other corresponding buildings. Aman Kumar Goel ( Talk) 12:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Last year, I removed some claims about Parliament House's design being inspired by the Chausath Yogini Temple in Morena, because I could find no source supporting that statement. I see that the claim has been added again, this time with this Hindustan Times article as a citation, and is featured prominently in the lead. However, I am still unable to find any evidence that the claim is reliable - in fact, it is highly likely that the author of that article copied from Wikipedia rather than the other way round - the article was written on 31 January 2020, and the claim about the Chausath Yogini Temple had existed on this article prior to that, without a citation. I have been unable to find any historical source that corroborates this temple-inspiration factoid, although this opinion piece in The Hindu asserts - without citations - that 'some historical records' mention it. Another similarly unreliable citation is this photo-op for NDTV, which leaves an open-ended question - "there may have been the designer and builders of the Indian Parliament House in New Delhi. They say that its architecture is very much like mine. Do you think so too?" rather than something concrete. The webpage of the Archaeological Society of India mentioned as a citation in the article also does not mention it, while the Google Books link that supposedly corroborates the fact is unreadable - I cannot read page 21 because GBooks' "Snippet View" does not allow it. A search for 'Chausath Yogini Temple' in the book from GBooks' search bar yields no results. A search on JSTOR also yielded no results.
Considering the above, I propose that this fact be removed, unless better, older and more reliable citations can be found, like maybe the works of Lutyens or Baker themselves, or of other qualified historians. Except for the low, circular exterior, there is no obvious similarity in the buildings' architecture, particularly in the interior. I am not saying the fact is outright wrong - yet - because it not unlikely that it was indeed temple-inspired, since Lutyens' architecture does incorporate lots of native Indian elements. The reason I want the facts removed is so that we do not start urban legends, like that Hindustan Times article.
@ Aman.kumar.goel: Pinging you as you are an active and experienced contributor. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 06:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
...There is also the conjecture of famous Indian temples and monuments serving as inspiration for the buildings being designed by the British. “Lutyens and Baker were sent off this tour to look at examples of Indian architecture. They also might have seen photographs collected by the Archeological Survey of India. So even though there is no proof of them emulating Indian monuments, it is not inconceivable that they might have done so,” says Liddle over the phone. “For instance, the fact that the Sanchi stupa was the model for the Rashtrapati Bhavan is quite obvious,” she says.Similarly, one is often struck by the similarity in structure and design of the Parliament House and the Chausath Yogini Temple at Mitawli village in Morena district near Gwalior, Madhya Pradesh. “Again we have no proof that they went to Mitawli or that they saw this temple, but at the same time it is not inconceivable that it might have served as an inspiration,” says Liddle.....TrangaBellam ( talk) 09:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
This article is about the circular building. There is simply no need to include such large amounts of detail about the new biulding that will eventually house Parliament. A small paragraph, like the one found at Central Vista Redevelopment Project will suffice, with a "main article" link to a new article, say New Indian parliament building, where all information about the new parliament building can be held. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI converse | fings wot i hav dun 05:46, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Why there is no mention of Bombings done by Hindustan Socialist Republic Association, isn't it is the same place where that took place in 1930. Ref [1] Rock Stone Gold Castle ( talk) 13:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:New Parliament House, New Delhi which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 16:04, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Transfer of ownerhsip was done on 14 August, 1947 as mentioned on
The Print - https://theprint.in/india/following-nehrus-footsteps-modi-to-invoke-old-chola-tradition-to-inaugurate-new-parliament/1592071/
The Hindu - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/inspired-by-cholas-handed-over-by-british-to-nehru-historic-sengol-to-be-installed-in-new-parliament-building/article66888185.ece
The Indian Express = https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-history/sengol-new-parliament-significance-nehru-8626977/
So corrected the article which was mentioned for Gov of India from 1950 - present to 1947 to present
-- ~~~~ Iamrajdeepdas ( talk) 14:01, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
change page name to old Parliament house New Delhi because we have now a new parliament building. Socialworkerindia863 ( talk) 12:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:New Parliament House, New Delhi which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 07:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As both the houses of parliament have already approved the renaming of the old building as Samvidhan Sadan after the Parliament has officially shifted to New Complex, it would be appropriate to rename the entire page as Samvidhan Sadan. Karan.jr.Singh ( talk) 11:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Quite a nice closing comment you gave for the readers and other editors, didn't you? PadFoot2008 ( talk) 08:12, 29 September 2023 (UTC)