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Does anyone know the run times for the songs listed in the "Formats and track listings" section? Underneath-it-All 15:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The information on the U.S. picture sleeve for "Oh Father" was incorrect. "Keep It Together" (1990) was the last U.S. 45 to be issued with a picture sleeve. Indeed, there is no known U.S. picture sleeve for "Oh Father"; it was issued with a generic white sleeve. I have corrected the information here and put the correct information with "Keep It Together." Cheemo 08:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The original picture on the single was Madonna in a black and yellow dress with black hair and she had on black boots...I still have the single and would love to post the picture... Jdcrackers 01:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded the original single cover picture today from my "Oh Father" Cassette single I bought back in 1989. If anyone disapproves of this please let me know! Jdcrackers 01:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 16:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
who is the little girl in the video Oh Father? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.157.99 ( talk) 20:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Maybe there should be a brief mention about a Grammy nomination for Best Short Form Music video? http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910111&slug=1260054 182.239.162.70 ( talk) 15:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that Legolas added the below-listed reference to an article supposedly by Paul Zollo called "Madonna on her turbulence". I cannot find any trace of this article, let alone written by this author:
I have challenged Legolas for similar unverifiable sources at Talk:Saqib Saleem and Talk:Madonna: Like an Icon/GA1, and I have seen the exact same Zollo cite at Keep It Together (Madonna song), also added by Legolas. I suspect that the pressure to advance articles to GA level has caused Legolas to falsify sources which is why I am here investigating the article. Binksternet ( talk) 18:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
What is the source that tells us that the lyrics are about Madonna's father and not Patrick Leonard's father or neither? Being that Dear Jessie is about Patrick Leonard's daughter and that Dear Jessie leads into Oh Father without gap/silence, I always figured it was about Patrick Leonard's father, not Madonna's father. There is a symmetry to the songs, the first is about being a parent the second about being a child. Moreover, Oh Father seems to be a about a physically abusive father, which I have never heard about Madonna's father. Repliedthemockturtle ( talk) 00:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Although discogs and 45cat are user-generated and unreliable, the images prove that the artwork is meant for the French vinyl release. The US vinyl release lacks the picture sleeve but uses the generic sleeve instead. The US cassette has one. Why not use the US tape release? -- George Ho ( talk) 23:27, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
increas[ing] readers' understanding of the article's subject matter." Before I added the image caption, readers have mistaken the image as a worldwide image. Even I mistook it as American vinyl picture sleeve. According to MOS:CAPTION, all images except "self-captioning" ones and unambiguous ones must have captions. Well, I wasn't aware of it until now, so there. Since readers will have become aware of the image's intent, maybe "most identifiable" is not equal to "most accurate". George Ho ( talk) 22:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
If I use both the US tape, will you try to remove the US tape then? If I try both the US tape and the UK CD to replace the French-y one, will you remove one of them? George Ho ( talk) 09:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Here we go again... Is there any better job to do here in this "encyclopedia" instead of changing photo? Madonna Official Website used the current picture for "Oh Father" article. Ironically, Discogs.com (which you cited above) use the same picture for Master Release of "Oh Father". Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
By the way, WP:NOR doesn't extend to non-mainspaces. I can say what I want, though I need sources to verify that. George Ho ( talk) 18:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
It's been one week. Comments on the sources that I provided? George Ho ( talk) 01:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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Does anyone know the run times for the songs listed in the "Formats and track listings" section? Underneath-it-All 15:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
The information on the U.S. picture sleeve for "Oh Father" was incorrect. "Keep It Together" (1990) was the last U.S. 45 to be issued with a picture sleeve. Indeed, there is no known U.S. picture sleeve for "Oh Father"; it was issued with a generic white sleeve. I have corrected the information here and put the correct information with "Keep It Together." Cheemo 08:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The original picture on the single was Madonna in a black and yellow dress with black hair and she had on black boots...I still have the single and would love to post the picture... Jdcrackers 01:18, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I uploaded the original single cover picture today from my "Oh Father" Cassette single I bought back in 1989. If anyone disapproves of this please let me know! Jdcrackers 01:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Image:Ohfathercover.jpeg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot ( talk) 16:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
who is the little girl in the video Oh Father? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.157.99 ( talk) 20:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Maybe there should be a brief mention about a Grammy nomination for Best Short Form Music video? http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910111&slug=1260054 182.239.162.70 ( talk) 15:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that Legolas added the below-listed reference to an article supposedly by Paul Zollo called "Madonna on her turbulence". I cannot find any trace of this article, let alone written by this author:
I have challenged Legolas for similar unverifiable sources at Talk:Saqib Saleem and Talk:Madonna: Like an Icon/GA1, and I have seen the exact same Zollo cite at Keep It Together (Madonna song), also added by Legolas. I suspect that the pressure to advance articles to GA level has caused Legolas to falsify sources which is why I am here investigating the article. Binksternet ( talk) 18:52, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
What is the source that tells us that the lyrics are about Madonna's father and not Patrick Leonard's father or neither? Being that Dear Jessie is about Patrick Leonard's daughter and that Dear Jessie leads into Oh Father without gap/silence, I always figured it was about Patrick Leonard's father, not Madonna's father. There is a symmetry to the songs, the first is about being a parent the second about being a child. Moreover, Oh Father seems to be a about a physically abusive father, which I have never heard about Madonna's father. Repliedthemockturtle ( talk) 00:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Although discogs and 45cat are user-generated and unreliable, the images prove that the artwork is meant for the French vinyl release. The US vinyl release lacks the picture sleeve but uses the generic sleeve instead. The US cassette has one. Why not use the US tape release? -- George Ho ( talk) 23:27, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
increas[ing] readers' understanding of the article's subject matter." Before I added the image caption, readers have mistaken the image as a worldwide image. Even I mistook it as American vinyl picture sleeve. According to MOS:CAPTION, all images except "self-captioning" ones and unambiguous ones must have captions. Well, I wasn't aware of it until now, so there. Since readers will have become aware of the image's intent, maybe "most identifiable" is not equal to "most accurate". George Ho ( talk) 22:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
If I use both the US tape, will you try to remove the US tape then? If I try both the US tape and the UK CD to replace the French-y one, will you remove one of them? George Ho ( talk) 09:10, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Here we go again... Is there any better job to do here in this "encyclopedia" instead of changing photo? Madonna Official Website used the current picture for "Oh Father" article. Ironically, Discogs.com (which you cited above) use the same picture for Master Release of "Oh Father". Bluesatellite ( talk) 10:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
By the way, WP:NOR doesn't extend to non-mainspaces. I can say what I want, though I need sources to verify that. George Ho ( talk) 18:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
It's been one week. Comments on the sources that I provided? George Ho ( talk) 01:37, 10 November 2016 (UTC)