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My englisch is far from perfekt but this chapter sound like advertisment for the free OpenDocument format A rewrite with less bias in a special direction would be nice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.247.252.15 ( talk) 07:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the last sentence. I feel that it would be more suited in an article dealing with Microsoft/monopoly related issues. Impaciente 05:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
In spring 2010, Corel stated that WordPerfect Office X4 could not be used with Windows 7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.29.116 ( talk) 13:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
What's this "offimatic"? It isn't an english word. When I google it, I find only copies of this article, and bad translations from other languages (mainly Spanish).
Being the most popular office suite, don't you think that it deserves a picture? Maybe put one of Office on Windows, one of iWork on OSX and then OOo on GNU/Linux? -- 69.159.228.177 19:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
i too do not agree.it will really make a disorder mess. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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==Suggest deleting: Generations and Evolution==
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 01:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read Nicolas Carr's blog about the generation of office suites. I feel that these "generations" are more of a personal reference to them. I've never heard of anyone else anywhere mentioning "generations" of office suites.
Maybe add some more reference? Not sure.
My main reason being, it didn't seem right; usually, when something advances in x.0 version, it gets better. 3.0 use hybrid desktop/web based softwares, and 4.0 is described as a fully web-based. Going web-based doesn't make it better, it's simply another platform, though flexible, still has its limitations.
Voices your thoughts, maybe I'm wrong.
BushMyster (
talk)
03:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Please read my explaination above. Before you undo my deletion, please elaborate and present information from other sources that supports the "generations" of Office suites. Thanks. BushMyster ( talk) 00:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
For Direct Marketing, a client will purchase business mailing lists. Then he will mail it out. He would then require a CRM (cstomer relationship management ) system. Should this be a part of an office suite ? Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
References
The sentence ...
IBM is also planning to release an open source commercial quality office base on OpenOffice
seems to be at odds with the rest of the section
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
17:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Suggest deletion of
Free open-source office software suite
Reason: this could be advertising.
The DMOZ link could be considered sufficient.
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
01:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
"online office" includes the following Web 2.0 functions: webmail, calendar, accountancy, and taxation. All the products are integrated with each other and run out of a webtop. There is a search application which displays results across the universe of the user's data.... eDeskOnline is a complete online office suite. In comparison with other online office suites like Zimbra desktop, easy office etc. eDeskOnline is better because, it is compatible with OpenDocuments and Microsoft Office file formats. Nbpandya 14:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Zimbra, one of the most popular web-based office suites, has just announced Zimbra Desktop - which provides offline access to the AJAX-powered product. Offering offline access is a growing trend amongst product developers, and obviously a feature the users are longing for. Firefox 3 will be implementing offline access to AJAX applications and a number of other companies are launching their own solutions (Adobe’s Apollo, Joyent’s Slingshot, and Dekoh). Nbpandya 14:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
References
List of Linux Office suites and a brief comparison: The leading office suite for Linux is currently Star Office 6.0 from Sun. The pure open source version is available as OpenOffice 1.1 (OpenOffice.org). It supports Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint document files. OpenOffice also includes a draw package and math symbol graphics package. OpenOffice 1.0.2 now ships with Red Hat 9.0. It's Microsoft document filters have passed all of my tests. In one case a dimmed water mark graphic came out fully opaque instead of translucent but this is the only variation from perfect that I have found.
www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialOfficeSuites.html Nbpandya 10:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Comparison & brief introduction of some Palm Office Suites. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/software/palm_office.htm Nbpandya 10:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted at Appleworks for Windows is only available through educational markets, and not useable by the general public.
And what about Applixware Office?
Does anyone think maybe we should list which suites are compatible with OpenDocument and Microsoft Office file formats?
I think that rather then having open document capability as part of the general section there should be a section listing outlining which office suites are compatible with the various different document formats out there. Also I think the current general matrix is a bit misleading because it seems to be focused on open source things but not on the features provided by some of the proprietary platforms. ---- 205.250.137.56 19:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's ridiculous that we list support for Opendocument but not Office file support. Many more people care about the latter
Format incompatibilities exist all across the board. MS Office 2003 and MS Office 2007 themselves have compatibility issues. I don't even want to get started on format incompatibilities between Windows and MAC version of MS Office. It would be very hard to characterize the differences in incompatibilities among the different office suites. I think that a generic statement that "complex documents created with one version may have format incompatibilities when opened with another version of the same office suite" would do the job. ( Bulletgani ( talk) 01:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
Should we add a section on Google Docs and Spreadsheets? I mean I think it is pretty obvious that google wants to provide a fully "online" office suite that will eventually compete with other office suites including Microsoft Office.
I was surprised to see Evolution, GIMP, Inkscape, DIA and Planer in GO. There are only 3 components in Gnome office : Abiword, Gnumeric and Mergeant. See : http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/ In an other And, Kontact is said not to be part of Koffice ...... ( and that's true, Neither is Outlook an MS office component).
Visio and Project are listed as components of the MS Office suite. To my knowledge they are not nor ever have been a main component of the Office suite. They are separate applications that are classified as part of the Office system, but not what I would consider 'main components' because they are not available in any of the suite options. I think the inclusion of them in the matrix is a little misleading.
I also agree with the above comment about creating a separate matrix for file compatability.
"Varies by edition and location"? Well how about putting a range. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr Christopher ( talk • contribs) 16:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
How about adding this one? Though few use it now it was a big deal back in its day. Btyner 23:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted this from the tables because:
Corel WordPerfect Office 8.0 was released for Linux back in 1999. I'm not sure whether to add that as a footnote to the article, or not, though. My source is an Install CD that doesn't have any documentation. jonathon 19:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
There are OOo templates for project management functions. Pert chart, GANTT chart, Scheduling, Materials, etc. They aren't packaged together, but they will work with each other. Should that space be left as "no', or changed to "partial (1)" where (1) is a note saying "with extensions"?
http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php has the GANTT Chart macro & PERT Chart macro. jonathon 21:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Staroffice and openoffice should have the same function/Main components, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.243.41 ( talk) 13:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What is Novel Openoffice.org ? ..... couldn't find a product called "Novel Openoffice.org" ( Bulletgani ( talk) 01:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
If no office suites support it and/or it's not notable enough to have an article, why is this a component of the table on platform compatibility? 86.147.209.239 16:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Wondering if someone could clear up exactly what operating system the article is referring to when it says 'Unix'. Solaris? AIX? HP-UX? Jackster ( talk) 22:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Word for OS X does not support all the world's major languages. It has zero support for Hebrew for example and any RTL language. Quite an omission for a 'Word processor'. 221.133.86.7 ( talk) 15:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a bias. OpenDocument support is not an end all feature. It should not be the only file type listed. Instead use a list of filetypes supported. This would remove the bias. I don't care how much you hate other file types or support the "Free" software movement. Additionally Microsoft has an actual price on its website. Use it. I don't care if it varies. Its a price. Stop the FUD against MS just because your think its cool to mispell Windows, and us a $ symbol to insult Microsoft. - Thekittenofterra ( talk) 00:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Feedmecereal : you have added a link to section = See also titled List of applications supporting OpenDocument .
I think you should have first discussed it here . Can you please revert your changes.
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
09:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Vote For
Vote Against
Please also read the merge discussion which has taken place at
Talk:List of office suites#Additional discussion
When apple works has been discontinued, as mentioned in the table, why should it still find a place in the table? Should it not be removed from the table? Dhshah ( talk) 19:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
According to Office suite: "Most office application suites include at least a word processor and a spreadsheet element. In addition to these, the suite may contain a presentation program, database tool, graphics suite and communications tools. An office suite may also include an email client and a personal information manager or groupware package."
If we were to apply the above definition, then eDesk Online qualifies as an office application suite. It contains a word processor and a spreadsheet element. They also have a database tool which they call eCabinet which allows you to create customised database structures. They also have an email client and a personal information manager in the form of Calendar.
Please see here blanked spam for details on including eDesk Online. Pl. kindly provide your thoughts. Dhshah 16:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see here [4] for some resources on including Google and tell me what you think. Thanks → James Kidd ( contr/ talk/ email) 08:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Last night, I added Google Docs & Spreadsheets to this page. This morning, I noticed that it had been there, and was removed. I find it a little odd to say that it's not a suite (it is a set of office programs, intended for use together), but then, I'm not the primary maintainer here and I don't want to override someone else's considered decision. However, if said reference is to be removed from this page, the reference to this page on the Google Docs & Spreadsheets page (which is how I got here in the first place) should be removed as well.
Thoughts?
Sorry not to sign with an account name; I'll create an account later today. --Patrick T. Ramsey 17:42, 05 December 2006
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Firmly agree with the inclusion.Services offered are more or less similar to an office suite. Jain puneet ( talk) 12:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
agreed too with the inclusion!services offered is as same as office suit and has been classified as office suit. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Both MS Office and OO.o articles have sections listing alternative suites. Are these appropriate (topical, relevant, informative) or do they stray from the main topics? Please discuss. Steven Fisher supports a merge & removed the alternatives section from MS Office. -- Karnesky 17:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
(title was merge our this article with another article = office suites)
I suggest as under :
merge our this article with another article = Office suite.
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 09:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
(unindenting). I'll put up the templates for you. Note, though, that WP:LISTS can be fine, that a merge is not a pre-requisite for having a DMOZ link, that we have a separate comparison article, etc. -- Karnesky ( talk) 15:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I would be against the merge personally. Although office suite is a weak article at the moment, it could be developed into something useful, at which point the list would have to be hauled out again. Being that there is already a comparison page, what is the need for the list? Oberiko ( talk) 18:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel this article is redundant and in fact can be deleted after moving the missing names to the comparison page. This article also does not conform to WP:LISTS in spirit. As per WP:LISTS, a list should be used only as an index. Whereas in this article along with the list, people have added comments which makes the article seem more like an advert rather than an index. I would vote for a merge of missing items to the comparison page tables rather than the office suite page. Once the merge is through i would vote for speedy delete. I am sure, once we have a consensus, we should have volunteers to do the needful. I would be more than happy to help. Dhshah ( talk) 14:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 06:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
its realy a good suggestion!the office suit should become more than illustration. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, dear, I've never done this before. Please forgive my bumbling. I was looking for "Computer "Works" Programs", and this was the closest I could get. Could you please see to it that there are cross references to this article when somebody types "Computer Works" in the search field? FWIW, I'd like to see the list incorporated into the main article. Thank you for your forbearance. 69.129.193.131 ( talk) 22:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)Richard S. Russell
Proposal: Merge Office suites with Comparison of office suites Suggest this tag be inserted onto the main article Office suites. Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 06:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Why not create a chart to display the foll information Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 14:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Multi-platform office suites 1.1 Proprietary suites 1.2 Free suites
2 Office suites for Microsoft Windows 2.1 Proprietary suites 2.2 Free suites
3 Office suites for Mac 3.1 Proprietary suites 3.2 Free suites
4 Office suites for Unix and Unix-like operating systems 4.1 Proprietary suites 4.2 Free suites
5 Online office suites
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 10:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
1 Multi-platform office suites 1.1 Proprietary suites 1.2 Free suites 2 Office suites for Microsoft Windows 2.1 Proprietary suites 2.2 Free suites 3 Office suites for Mac 3.1 Proprietary suites 3.2 Free suites 4 Office suites for Unix and Unix-like operating systems 4.1 Proprietary suites 4.2 Free suites 5 Online office suites
I'm not sure why Mozilla Thunderbird is listed as the email component of several suites? Sure, you could use Thunderbird, but unless it comes bundled as part of the suite, it doesn't really qualify? I see that OO.o are thinking of making a PIM based on Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to be around yet. -- Mithent ( talk) 01:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
This entry in the column should be updated to partial support, as, ironically, MS Office doesn't even support it's own format fully! -- 86.15.128.27 ( talk) 12:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
lets have an archive section Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 09:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
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My englisch is far from perfekt but this chapter sound like advertisment for the free OpenDocument format A rewrite with less bias in a special direction would be nice —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.247.252.15 ( talk) 07:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I removed the last sentence. I feel that it would be more suited in an article dealing with Microsoft/monopoly related issues. Impaciente 05:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
In spring 2010, Corel stated that WordPerfect Office X4 could not be used with Windows 7. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.29.116 ( talk) 13:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
What's this "offimatic"? It isn't an english word. When I google it, I find only copies of this article, and bad translations from other languages (mainly Spanish).
Being the most popular office suite, don't you think that it deserves a picture? Maybe put one of Office on Windows, one of iWork on OSX and then OOo on GNU/Linux? -- 69.159.228.177 19:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
i too do not agree.it will really make a disorder mess. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Image:Pages screenshot.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 20:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
==Suggest deleting: Generations and Evolution==
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 01:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I've read Nicolas Carr's blog about the generation of office suites. I feel that these "generations" are more of a personal reference to them. I've never heard of anyone else anywhere mentioning "generations" of office suites.
Maybe add some more reference? Not sure.
My main reason being, it didn't seem right; usually, when something advances in x.0 version, it gets better. 3.0 use hybrid desktop/web based softwares, and 4.0 is described as a fully web-based. Going web-based doesn't make it better, it's simply another platform, though flexible, still has its limitations.
Voices your thoughts, maybe I'm wrong.
BushMyster (
talk)
03:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Please read my explaination above. Before you undo my deletion, please elaborate and present information from other sources that supports the "generations" of Office suites. Thanks. BushMyster ( talk) 00:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
For Direct Marketing, a client will purchase business mailing lists. Then he will mail it out. He would then require a CRM (cstomer relationship management ) system. Should this be a part of an office suite ? Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
References
The sentence ...
IBM is also planning to release an open source commercial quality office base on OpenOffice
seems to be at odds with the rest of the section
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
17:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Suggest deletion of
Free open-source office software suite
Reason: this could be advertising.
The DMOZ link could be considered sufficient.
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
01:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
"online office" includes the following Web 2.0 functions: webmail, calendar, accountancy, and taxation. All the products are integrated with each other and run out of a webtop. There is a search application which displays results across the universe of the user's data.... eDeskOnline is a complete online office suite. In comparison with other online office suites like Zimbra desktop, easy office etc. eDeskOnline is better because, it is compatible with OpenDocuments and Microsoft Office file formats. Nbpandya 14:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Zimbra, one of the most popular web-based office suites, has just announced Zimbra Desktop - which provides offline access to the AJAX-powered product. Offering offline access is a growing trend amongst product developers, and obviously a feature the users are longing for. Firefox 3 will be implementing offline access to AJAX applications and a number of other companies are launching their own solutions (Adobe’s Apollo, Joyent’s Slingshot, and Dekoh). Nbpandya 14:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
References
List of Linux Office suites and a brief comparison: The leading office suite for Linux is currently Star Office 6.0 from Sun. The pure open source version is available as OpenOffice 1.1 (OpenOffice.org). It supports Microsoft Word, Excel and Powerpoint document files. OpenOffice also includes a draw package and math symbol graphics package. OpenOffice 1.0.2 now ships with Red Hat 9.0. It's Microsoft document filters have passed all of my tests. In one case a dimmed water mark graphic came out fully opaque instead of translucent but this is the only variation from perfect that I have found.
www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialOfficeSuites.html Nbpandya 10:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Comparison & brief introduction of some Palm Office Suites. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/software/palm_office.htm Nbpandya 10:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted at Appleworks for Windows is only available through educational markets, and not useable by the general public.
And what about Applixware Office?
Does anyone think maybe we should list which suites are compatible with OpenDocument and Microsoft Office file formats?
I think that rather then having open document capability as part of the general section there should be a section listing outlining which office suites are compatible with the various different document formats out there. Also I think the current general matrix is a bit misleading because it seems to be focused on open source things but not on the features provided by some of the proprietary platforms. ---- 205.250.137.56 19:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I think it's ridiculous that we list support for Opendocument but not Office file support. Many more people care about the latter
Format incompatibilities exist all across the board. MS Office 2003 and MS Office 2007 themselves have compatibility issues. I don't even want to get started on format incompatibilities between Windows and MAC version of MS Office. It would be very hard to characterize the differences in incompatibilities among the different office suites. I think that a generic statement that "complex documents created with one version may have format incompatibilities when opened with another version of the same office suite" would do the job. ( Bulletgani ( talk) 01:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
Should we add a section on Google Docs and Spreadsheets? I mean I think it is pretty obvious that google wants to provide a fully "online" office suite that will eventually compete with other office suites including Microsoft Office.
I was surprised to see Evolution, GIMP, Inkscape, DIA and Planer in GO. There are only 3 components in Gnome office : Abiword, Gnumeric and Mergeant. See : http://www.gnome.org/gnome-office/ In an other And, Kontact is said not to be part of Koffice ...... ( and that's true, Neither is Outlook an MS office component).
Visio and Project are listed as components of the MS Office suite. To my knowledge they are not nor ever have been a main component of the Office suite. They are separate applications that are classified as part of the Office system, but not what I would consider 'main components' because they are not available in any of the suite options. I think the inclusion of them in the matrix is a little misleading.
I also agree with the above comment about creating a separate matrix for file compatability.
"Varies by edition and location"? Well how about putting a range. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr Christopher ( talk • contribs) 16:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
How about adding this one? Though few use it now it was a big deal back in its day. Btyner 23:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I deleted this from the tables because:
Corel WordPerfect Office 8.0 was released for Linux back in 1999. I'm not sure whether to add that as a footnote to the article, or not, though. My source is an Install CD that doesn't have any documentation. jonathon 19:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
There are OOo templates for project management functions. Pert chart, GANTT chart, Scheduling, Materials, etc. They aren't packaged together, but they will work with each other. Should that space be left as "no', or changed to "partial (1)" where (1) is a note saying "with extensions"?
http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php has the GANTT Chart macro & PERT Chart macro. jonathon 21:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Staroffice and openoffice should have the same function/Main components, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.243.41 ( talk) 13:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
What is Novel Openoffice.org ? ..... couldn't find a product called "Novel Openoffice.org" ( Bulletgani ( talk) 01:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC))
If no office suites support it and/or it's not notable enough to have an article, why is this a component of the table on platform compatibility? 86.147.209.239 16:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Wondering if someone could clear up exactly what operating system the article is referring to when it says 'Unix'. Solaris? AIX? HP-UX? Jackster ( talk) 22:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Word for OS X does not support all the world's major languages. It has zero support for Hebrew for example and any RTL language. Quite an omission for a 'Word processor'. 221.133.86.7 ( talk) 15:28, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a bias. OpenDocument support is not an end all feature. It should not be the only file type listed. Instead use a list of filetypes supported. This would remove the bias. I don't care how much you hate other file types or support the "Free" software movement. Additionally Microsoft has an actual price on its website. Use it. I don't care if it varies. Its a price. Stop the FUD against MS just because your think its cool to mispell Windows, and us a $ symbol to insult Microsoft. - Thekittenofterra ( talk) 00:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Feedmecereal : you have added a link to section = See also titled List of applications supporting OpenDocument .
I think you should have first discussed it here . Can you please revert your changes.
Sanjiv swarup (
talk)
09:04, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Vote For
Vote Against
Please also read the merge discussion which has taken place at
Talk:List of office suites#Additional discussion
When apple works has been discontinued, as mentioned in the table, why should it still find a place in the table? Should it not be removed from the table? Dhshah ( talk) 19:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
According to Office suite: "Most office application suites include at least a word processor and a spreadsheet element. In addition to these, the suite may contain a presentation program, database tool, graphics suite and communications tools. An office suite may also include an email client and a personal information manager or groupware package."
If we were to apply the above definition, then eDesk Online qualifies as an office application suite. It contains a word processor and a spreadsheet element. They also have a database tool which they call eCabinet which allows you to create customised database structures. They also have an email client and a personal information manager in the form of Calendar.
Please see here blanked spam for details on including eDesk Online. Pl. kindly provide your thoughts. Dhshah 16:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see here [4] for some resources on including Google and tell me what you think. Thanks → James Kidd ( contr/ talk/ email) 08:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Last night, I added Google Docs & Spreadsheets to this page. This morning, I noticed that it had been there, and was removed. I find it a little odd to say that it's not a suite (it is a set of office programs, intended for use together), but then, I'm not the primary maintainer here and I don't want to override someone else's considered decision. However, if said reference is to be removed from this page, the reference to this page on the Google Docs & Spreadsheets page (which is how I got here in the first place) should be removed as well.
Thoughts?
Sorry not to sign with an account name; I'll create an account later today. --Patrick T. Ramsey 17:42, 05 December 2006
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Firmly agree with the inclusion.Services offered are more or less similar to an office suite. Jain puneet ( talk) 12:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
agreed too with the inclusion!services offered is as same as office suit and has been classified as office suit. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Both MS Office and OO.o articles have sections listing alternative suites. Are these appropriate (topical, relevant, informative) or do they stray from the main topics? Please discuss. Steven Fisher supports a merge & removed the alternatives section from MS Office. -- Karnesky 17:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
(title was merge our this article with another article = office suites)
I suggest as under :
merge our this article with another article = Office suite.
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 08:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 09:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
(unindenting). I'll put up the templates for you. Note, though, that WP:LISTS can be fine, that a merge is not a pre-requisite for having a DMOZ link, that we have a separate comparison article, etc. -- Karnesky ( talk) 15:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I would be against the merge personally. Although office suite is a weak article at the moment, it could be developed into something useful, at which point the list would have to be hauled out again. Being that there is already a comparison page, what is the need for the list? Oberiko ( talk) 18:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I feel this article is redundant and in fact can be deleted after moving the missing names to the comparison page. This article also does not conform to WP:LISTS in spirit. As per WP:LISTS, a list should be used only as an index. Whereas in this article along with the list, people have added comments which makes the article seem more like an advert rather than an index. I would vote for a merge of missing items to the comparison page tables rather than the office suite page. Once the merge is through i would vote for speedy delete. I am sure, once we have a consensus, we should have volunteers to do the needful. I would be more than happy to help. Dhshah ( talk) 14:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 06:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
its realy a good suggestion!the office suit should become more than illustration. Anoopnair2050 ( talk) 15:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, dear, I've never done this before. Please forgive my bumbling. I was looking for "Computer "Works" Programs", and this was the closest I could get. Could you please see to it that there are cross references to this article when somebody types "Computer Works" in the search field? FWIW, I'd like to see the list incorporated into the main article. Thank you for your forbearance. 69.129.193.131 ( talk) 22:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)Richard S. Russell
Proposal: Merge Office suites with Comparison of office suites Suggest this tag be inserted onto the main article Office suites. Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 06:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Why not create a chart to display the foll information Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 14:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Multi-platform office suites 1.1 Proprietary suites 1.2 Free suites
2 Office suites for Microsoft Windows 2.1 Proprietary suites 2.2 Free suites
3 Office suites for Mac 3.1 Proprietary suites 3.2 Free suites
4 Office suites for Unix and Unix-like operating systems 4.1 Proprietary suites 4.2 Free suites
5 Online office suites
Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 10:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
1 Multi-platform office suites 1.1 Proprietary suites 1.2 Free suites 2 Office suites for Microsoft Windows 2.1 Proprietary suites 2.2 Free suites 3 Office suites for Mac 3.1 Proprietary suites 3.2 Free suites 4 Office suites for Unix and Unix-like operating systems 4.1 Proprietary suites 4.2 Free suites 5 Online office suites
I'm not sure why Mozilla Thunderbird is listed as the email component of several suites? Sure, you could use Thunderbird, but unless it comes bundled as part of the suite, it doesn't really qualify? I see that OO.o are thinking of making a PIM based on Thunderbird, but it doesn't seem to be around yet. -- Mithent ( talk) 01:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
This entry in the column should be updated to partial support, as, ironically, MS Office doesn't even support it's own format fully! -- 86.15.128.27 ( talk) 12:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
lets have an archive section Sanjiv swarup ( talk) 09:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)