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Use FAS as source for quotes if removed from DefenseLINK: http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/02/dod022602.html and http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/11/dod111802.html
External link from The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/28631.html
Appears that Rumsfeld told the press that 'the name' was gone, but that he was going to keep following the intent under some other, less obvious, names. It is thus fair to say that the whole mandate of the OSI is still in operation, or at least that no one can possibly verify that it isn't.
Perhaps the first official act of the OSI was to declare that it, itself, didn't exist. That would be a lie, of course, but that's its job, to tell lies, including lies about itself.
See w:carceral state.
And yet people wonder why I refuse to believe anything the US Gummint says... Kwantus 18:09, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I reverted the previous version, not becaus I disagree/agree with its content but because it read like a badly written magazine article, with inappropriate second-hand quotes shoved here and there. This is an encyclopedia and articles should be written in encyclopedia style. There are LOTS of controversial topics on wikipedia that present controversial issues in encyclopedic manner - check around and see. - DavidWBrooks 12:24, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I understand David's concern to keep the article in line with professional editorial style. In this case, however, I feel that useful information was lost in the editorial process. As an officiall acknowledged institution, the OSI was extremely short-lived. Therefore, the circumstances of its closure are the most interesting aspects of the Wiki entry.
Regarding the closure, I feel that it is important to see that Rumsfeld made it sound like Feith decided to close the office. This is important, because Rumsfeld later admitted that he decided to keep the office open, and use the official closure of the office for deflection of public interest.
Instead of deleting the information, I suggest to elaborate on it as follows:
This article is about the former U.S. Government department. For the rock band named after this organization, see OSI (band)
The Office of Strategic Influence, or OSI, was a department set up in the United States Department of Defense in late 2001 or early 2002, to support the War on terrorism through psychological operations in targeted countries. The closure of the office was announced by Donald Rumsfeld soon after its existence became publically known.
The OSI would have been a center for the creation of propaganda materials, for the stated purpose of misleading enemy forces or their civilian populations. After information on the office spread through US and foreign media in mid February 2002, intense discussions on purpose and scope of the office were reported. The discussions culminated in a public statement by Donald Rumsfeld on 2002-02-26 that the office has been closed down.
Some argue that due to its nature and stated purpose, the (non-)existence of such an agency would be hard to determine. In fact, in November 2002, Donald Rumsfeld himself stated in an interview that only the name of the office was abolished, that it further exists and that it pursues its original purpose.
David, I agree that there is a need to improve the quotations section. It could be done by some kind of timeline of official statements:
What do you think? If agreeable, I would do the corresponding edit.
Points taken. The timeline is now headed by the date, and summarizes the facts. Links to orginal sources provided.
This could use a section about OSI's actions in the aftermath of the Battle of Nasriya, in which over a dozen Marines were killed by friendly fire and Jessica Lynch's convoy was attacked. The office intentionally spread disinformation about Lynch's capture and the cause of death for the soldiers killed by friendly fire. This is documented in Jon Krakauer's book, Where Men Win Glory. I'm sure there are other sources as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DS Riley ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
It ought to be deleted. This is a business that was closed down after five months. The sources say that its goals and powers were never decided. That it took no official actions. And was closed. The end. TheThomas ( talk) 04:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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Use FAS as source for quotes if removed from DefenseLINK: http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/02/dod022602.html and http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/11/dod111802.html
External link from The Register http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/28631.html
Appears that Rumsfeld told the press that 'the name' was gone, but that he was going to keep following the intent under some other, less obvious, names. It is thus fair to say that the whole mandate of the OSI is still in operation, or at least that no one can possibly verify that it isn't.
Perhaps the first official act of the OSI was to declare that it, itself, didn't exist. That would be a lie, of course, but that's its job, to tell lies, including lies about itself.
See w:carceral state.
And yet people wonder why I refuse to believe anything the US Gummint says... Kwantus 18:09, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)
I reverted the previous version, not becaus I disagree/agree with its content but because it read like a badly written magazine article, with inappropriate second-hand quotes shoved here and there. This is an encyclopedia and articles should be written in encyclopedia style. There are LOTS of controversial topics on wikipedia that present controversial issues in encyclopedic manner - check around and see. - DavidWBrooks 12:24, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
I understand David's concern to keep the article in line with professional editorial style. In this case, however, I feel that useful information was lost in the editorial process. As an officiall acknowledged institution, the OSI was extremely short-lived. Therefore, the circumstances of its closure are the most interesting aspects of the Wiki entry.
Regarding the closure, I feel that it is important to see that Rumsfeld made it sound like Feith decided to close the office. This is important, because Rumsfeld later admitted that he decided to keep the office open, and use the official closure of the office for deflection of public interest.
Instead of deleting the information, I suggest to elaborate on it as follows:
This article is about the former U.S. Government department. For the rock band named after this organization, see OSI (band)
The Office of Strategic Influence, or OSI, was a department set up in the United States Department of Defense in late 2001 or early 2002, to support the War on terrorism through psychological operations in targeted countries. The closure of the office was announced by Donald Rumsfeld soon after its existence became publically known.
The OSI would have been a center for the creation of propaganda materials, for the stated purpose of misleading enemy forces or their civilian populations. After information on the office spread through US and foreign media in mid February 2002, intense discussions on purpose and scope of the office were reported. The discussions culminated in a public statement by Donald Rumsfeld on 2002-02-26 that the office has been closed down.
Some argue that due to its nature and stated purpose, the (non-)existence of such an agency would be hard to determine. In fact, in November 2002, Donald Rumsfeld himself stated in an interview that only the name of the office was abolished, that it further exists and that it pursues its original purpose.
David, I agree that there is a need to improve the quotations section. It could be done by some kind of timeline of official statements:
What do you think? If agreeable, I would do the corresponding edit.
Points taken. The timeline is now headed by the date, and summarizes the facts. Links to orginal sources provided.
This could use a section about OSI's actions in the aftermath of the Battle of Nasriya, in which over a dozen Marines were killed by friendly fire and Jessica Lynch's convoy was attacked. The office intentionally spread disinformation about Lynch's capture and the cause of death for the soldiers killed by friendly fire. This is documented in Jon Krakauer's book, Where Men Win Glory. I'm sure there are other sources as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DS Riley ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
It ought to be deleted. This is a business that was closed down after five months. The sources say that its goals and powers were never decided. That it took no official actions. And was closed. The end. TheThomas ( talk) 04:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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