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Not sure why this is semi-protected for another year, but I see no mention of the Mesoamerican use of Obsidian to view the sun and track its movements as part of their astronomy research. Just a thought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.136.51 ( talk) 02:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Glass says that in the US, "obsidian prevention is prohibited by law." Any further information? - Montréalais 08:32, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have a large piece of Obsidian, I think its very unusal to find this type in the area that I live (Kitchener, Ontario Canada). If anyone out there has any information on Obsidian and where it is usually found I would be quite interested to hear.
Thanks (Curious) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.140.226 ( talk) 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Nice start to an article, but very biased towards the US and MesoAmerica (probably because the writers know those areas best). There's nothing on the amazing Palaeolithic, Epipalaeolithic and Neolithic obsidian tools from the Middle East, especially Iraq? I saw some fantastic long obsidian blades and blade cores in Mosul Museum in Iraq in 1989, but suspect they have long since been bombed or smashed. The Maori used obsidian in New Zealand. There are lots of other locations and cultures where obsidian occurs and has been utilised - anyone with more information able to expand? 81.159.88.164 ( talk) 15:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Evidence continues to build concurring that trade and use of obsidian appears to have been widespread across Oceania at least as far back as the 2nd millennium BCE with the Lapita people and possibly back tens of thousands of years with the Austronesian-speakers who came before them. This stands to reason, considering the highly volcanic geography of that entire portion of the globe. I'm only still learning myself, but here are some scholarly sources that might help:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/40387061?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1834-4453.1997.tb00375.x
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42928778?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/arco.5139
Also The Sea and Civilization: A Maritime History of the World by Lincoln Paine, 2013 Knopf-Doubleday (audiobook: 2018 Tantor Audio) ISBN-13: 9781101970355
I'm sorry to just post a bunch of web addresses but I am limited in what I can do. I contribute rarely so I hope this isn't particularly bad form or anything; my intentions are sincere. I have only included scholarly articles and one book, no secondary sources or 'pedias.
I think this region of trade is suspected to have been broad enough to include Malaysia, Borneo, Siam, and maybe India, but like I said I'm still learning and can't provide any specifics on that. I hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9400:75CC:C5F:D762:188B:8EB8 ( talk) 04:10, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Obsidian is more than one color. It can be red,brown,black. And in Rainbow Obsidian blue, green, red, orange or yellow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.26.3 ( talk) 18:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about the rest of those colours, but green obsidian is found at Pachuca. It's also mentioned in Obsidian use in Mesoamerica. Here's a rather long reference that's a pretty good read if you're into that subject. 50.64.119.38 ( talk) 07:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC) https://books.google.ca/books?id=wX4UMndFQgQC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=Green+obsidian+-healing+-sell+-sale&source=bl&ots=u_osrwFFYv&sig=26dv8a9IBk9PG1of8r4ja-yP6DE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwium8GRv-XWAhXBjVQKHaoFBDsQ6AEIsAEwHg#v=onepage&q=Green%20obsidian%20-healing%20-sell%20-sale&f=false
Another interesting you could post about minerals is how to cut and shape them. I have a friend who tried to cut obsidian on his own with a hammer and a chisel and ended up slicing himself something nasty. Knowing how to home shape a mineral or at least a warning not to could be useful to some. ~~Mr. Wonderful~~
Is there really a natural material called "metallic obsidian" as shown in one image? If not the image should be removed. Wilson44691 ( talk) 22:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
what is the sources!??!??! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.16.93 ( talk) 20:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
i was wondering, which would make a sharper, overall better, blade. Obsidian or ceramic with zirconium oxide? Wesleyburchard1 ( talk) 05:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Obsidian is a common material in many fictional settings, for example: minecraft and A Song of Ice and Fire, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article?
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Please rename the section Historical Use as Prehistoric Use.
Explanation: History by definition starts with the invention of writing after 3000BC. Whereas all the obsidian cultures listed in this section are much older, up to 1.5 million years old. So prehistoric, not historic. 31.4.130.55 ( talk) 21:08, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I just visited this article, because I read about obsidian regularly in various books and wanted to know what it actually is. To my surprise, this article contains a section "Literary references". Even though I personally don't think such a section is warranted at all in an article about a material, if it's there and there's consensus about its merits, it requires attention. Currently a single reference is made, while literature is rife with references to obsidian. Even though I can't find some of the references I'm sure of, there at least exists an obsidian trilogy and a series Obsidian mirror. There are definitely more sci-fi and fantasy links possible. And maybe the Aztec god Ītzpāpālōtl also deserves mention. HSNie ( talk) 22:13, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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In the section Prehistoric and Historical Use/Middle East and Asia, this text appears: " The use of obsidian tools was present in Japan near areas of volcanic activity.[46][47] Obsidian was mined during the Jōmon period."
The link on "Jōmon period" (and only those words) goes to the page "Hoshikuso Pass obsidian mine site", a specific example of obsidian mining in Japan during the Jōmon period. This structure makes it look like the link is to "Jōmon period"; to conform to MOS:LINKCLARITY, the link should be expanded, for example:
"Obsidian was mined during the Jōmon period."
Broader questions about sentence structure, specificity, relevance, etc. may be relevant here but are outside the scope of this edit request. Greeengemini ( talk) 21:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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Not sure why this is semi-protected for another year, but I see no mention of the Mesoamerican use of Obsidian to view the sun and track its movements as part of their astronomy research. Just a thought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.136.51 ( talk) 02:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Glass says that in the US, "obsidian prevention is prohibited by law." Any further information? - Montréalais 08:32, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I have a large piece of Obsidian, I think its very unusal to find this type in the area that I live (Kitchener, Ontario Canada). If anyone out there has any information on Obsidian and where it is usually found I would be quite interested to hear.
Thanks (Curious) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.140.226 ( talk) 22:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Nice start to an article, but very biased towards the US and MesoAmerica (probably because the writers know those areas best). There's nothing on the amazing Palaeolithic, Epipalaeolithic and Neolithic obsidian tools from the Middle East, especially Iraq? I saw some fantastic long obsidian blades and blade cores in Mosul Museum in Iraq in 1989, but suspect they have long since been bombed or smashed. The Maori used obsidian in New Zealand. There are lots of other locations and cultures where obsidian occurs and has been utilised - anyone with more information able to expand? 81.159.88.164 ( talk) 15:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Evidence continues to build concurring that trade and use of obsidian appears to have been widespread across Oceania at least as far back as the 2nd millennium BCE with the Lapita people and possibly back tens of thousands of years with the Austronesian-speakers who came before them. This stands to reason, considering the highly volcanic geography of that entire portion of the globe. I'm only still learning myself, but here are some scholarly sources that might help:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/40387061?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1834-4453.1997.tb00375.x
https://www.jstor.org/stable/42928778?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/arco.5139
Also The Sea and Civilization: A Maritime History of the World by Lincoln Paine, 2013 Knopf-Doubleday (audiobook: 2018 Tantor Audio) ISBN-13: 9781101970355
I'm sorry to just post a bunch of web addresses but I am limited in what I can do. I contribute rarely so I hope this isn't particularly bad form or anything; my intentions are sincere. I have only included scholarly articles and one book, no secondary sources or 'pedias.
I think this region of trade is suspected to have been broad enough to include Malaysia, Borneo, Siam, and maybe India, but like I said I'm still learning and can't provide any specifics on that. I hope this helps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:9400:75CC:C5F:D762:188B:8EB8 ( talk) 04:10, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Obsidian is more than one color. It can be red,brown,black. And in Rainbow Obsidian blue, green, red, orange or yellow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.26.3 ( talk) 18:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about the rest of those colours, but green obsidian is found at Pachuca. It's also mentioned in Obsidian use in Mesoamerica. Here's a rather long reference that's a pretty good read if you're into that subject. 50.64.119.38 ( talk) 07:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC) https://books.google.ca/books?id=wX4UMndFQgQC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=Green+obsidian+-healing+-sell+-sale&source=bl&ots=u_osrwFFYv&sig=26dv8a9IBk9PG1of8r4ja-yP6DE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwium8GRv-XWAhXBjVQKHaoFBDsQ6AEIsAEwHg#v=onepage&q=Green%20obsidian%20-healing%20-sell%20-sale&f=false
Another interesting you could post about minerals is how to cut and shape them. I have a friend who tried to cut obsidian on his own with a hammer and a chisel and ended up slicing himself something nasty. Knowing how to home shape a mineral or at least a warning not to could be useful to some. ~~Mr. Wonderful~~
Is there really a natural material called "metallic obsidian" as shown in one image? If not the image should be removed. Wilson44691 ( talk) 22:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
what is the sources!??!??! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.16.93 ( talk) 20:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
i was wondering, which would make a sharper, overall better, blade. Obsidian or ceramic with zirconium oxide? Wesleyburchard1 ( talk) 05:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Obsidian is a common material in many fictional settings, for example: minecraft and A Song of Ice and Fire, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article?
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Please rename the section Historical Use as Prehistoric Use.
Explanation: History by definition starts with the invention of writing after 3000BC. Whereas all the obsidian cultures listed in this section are much older, up to 1.5 million years old. So prehistoric, not historic. 31.4.130.55 ( talk) 21:08, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I just visited this article, because I read about obsidian regularly in various books and wanted to know what it actually is. To my surprise, this article contains a section "Literary references". Even though I personally don't think such a section is warranted at all in an article about a material, if it's there and there's consensus about its merits, it requires attention. Currently a single reference is made, while literature is rife with references to obsidian. Even though I can't find some of the references I'm sure of, there at least exists an obsidian trilogy and a series Obsidian mirror. There are definitely more sci-fi and fantasy links possible. And maybe the Aztec god Ītzpāpālōtl also deserves mention. HSNie ( talk) 22:13, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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In the section Prehistoric and Historical Use/Middle East and Asia, this text appears: " The use of obsidian tools was present in Japan near areas of volcanic activity.[46][47] Obsidian was mined during the Jōmon period."
The link on "Jōmon period" (and only those words) goes to the page "Hoshikuso Pass obsidian mine site", a specific example of obsidian mining in Japan during the Jōmon period. This structure makes it look like the link is to "Jōmon period"; to conform to MOS:LINKCLARITY, the link should be expanded, for example:
"Obsidian was mined during the Jōmon period."
Broader questions about sentence structure, specificity, relevance, etc. may be relevant here but are outside the scope of this edit request. Greeengemini ( talk) 21:15, 25 January 2024 (UTC)