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Edited an improper setting for a city. Originally said Weber's opera premiered in London.France. Corrected to the appropriate nation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.51.48 ( talk) 20:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
The meaning of the name Oberon is "Noble Bear". The origin of the name Oberon is German, being a form of Auberon. "A Midsummer Night's Dream" was writen to celebrate festivities at Kenilworth, in 1575, in honour and in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and Leicester,i.e. Robert Dudley, her favourite. Organised by Leicester, this was his final attempt to get her to marry him. A playful frolic, the chief characters represent this couple; Titania (Queen of the fairies) Elizabeth, and Oberon as King. The name Oberon was chosen from the Dudley crest, a bear chained to a rugged tree. As a vicious man, Leicester is alluded to in many plays, including "Winter's Tale" (The famous stage direction "Exit, pursued by a bear"). In the passage quoted in this article, the word-play (Oberon/Leicester desperately wanting a child by the queen)is sexual; 'wanton', 'lack of use', and the contrasting of the phallic pegs of nine-men's morris with female emblems. A quaint-maze was a universal turf-cut running maze; the glossary to the Albion edition defines it as: "Quaint-mazes, a game running the figure of eight". Meaning that the 'eyes' of the maze were shaped like queyntes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colcestrian ( talk • contribs) 05:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following unsourced trivia:
Ekwos ( talk) 02:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
"==Gaelic Etymology==
Etymologically, the name translates in Gaelic as Og "young", breach "beautiful", aon "one" or ob-rea-on which means “the beautiful young man”. Oberon is likely related to Gwyn ap Nudd, the Welsh Fairy/Goblin King, and possibly not derived all from Alberich, which is the common assumption."
I have removed that section as it is unsourced completely unaccepted and ridiculous. There is no evidence for "Oberon" in Ireland. Oberon is a character from French literature derived most likely from a Frankish name. This is really just the editors preferred "origin", hence its inclusion as fact at the top. I'm sorry my dear "Wiccans" but not all words related to fairies, elves, ghosts, demons and any other "supernatural" character are derived from Gaelic or Welsh (which are not identical anyway) no matter what some book published by Llewellyn says, especially ones from the literature of other countries. I am trying to assume good faith but this sort of vandalism is becoming very common on folklore and supernatural literature related articles.
I was incorrect as saying it was all unsourced, the source was given by Charles MacKay, a man whose etymological theories weren't taken seriously during his lifetime and certainly not now. However the part about Gwyn ap Nudd isn't even mentioned by MacKay.
I shall try to re-add McKay's view but not as fact as he is regarded universally as a fantasist. Even the article on this site says as much and will give you links to articles by etymologists about his work. You can also view his work and see it in all its glory for yourself. Sigurd Dragon Slayer ( talk) 23:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
The article originally said "Oberon, King of the Fairies," and " "Oberon" as king of the elves has an earlier history, as Alberich (elbe "elves" reix, rex "king")".
Since 2010, it says "Oberon (also spelled Auberon) is a king of the fairies" and "Oberon's status as king of the fairies comes from the character of Alberich (from Old High German alb- "elf" and -rîh-, "ruler", "king"),".
So, what makes more sense? The RedBurn ( ϕ) 15:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
He is also in the video game skill the hero slayer 72.83.220.58 ( talk) 03:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
With my most recent edit, I removed the below paragraph from the 'French heroic song' section, as the information is unsourced and I was not able to find appropriate sourcing for it myself. If a proper source can be produced, please restore this paragraph:
"The real Seguin was Count of Bordeaux under Louis the Pious in 839 and died fighting against the Norsemen in 845. Charles l'Enfant, a son of Charles the Bald, died in 866 of wounds inflicted by a certain Aubouin in the circumstances of an ambush similar to the Charlot of the story. Thus, Oberon appears in a 13th-century French courtly fantasy that is based on a shred of 9th century fact."
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Edited an improper setting for a city. Originally said Weber's opera premiered in London.France. Corrected to the appropriate nation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.41.51.48 ( talk) 20:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
The meaning of the name Oberon is "Noble Bear". The origin of the name Oberon is German, being a form of Auberon. "A Midsummer Night's Dream" was writen to celebrate festivities at Kenilworth, in 1575, in honour and in the presence of Queen Elizabeth and Leicester,i.e. Robert Dudley, her favourite. Organised by Leicester, this was his final attempt to get her to marry him. A playful frolic, the chief characters represent this couple; Titania (Queen of the fairies) Elizabeth, and Oberon as King. The name Oberon was chosen from the Dudley crest, a bear chained to a rugged tree. As a vicious man, Leicester is alluded to in many plays, including "Winter's Tale" (The famous stage direction "Exit, pursued by a bear"). In the passage quoted in this article, the word-play (Oberon/Leicester desperately wanting a child by the queen)is sexual; 'wanton', 'lack of use', and the contrasting of the phallic pegs of nine-men's morris with female emblems. A quaint-maze was a universal turf-cut running maze; the glossary to the Albion edition defines it as: "Quaint-mazes, a game running the figure of eight". Meaning that the 'eyes' of the maze were shaped like queyntes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colcestrian ( talk • contribs) 05:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
I removed the following unsourced trivia:
Ekwos ( talk) 02:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
"==Gaelic Etymology==
Etymologically, the name translates in Gaelic as Og "young", breach "beautiful", aon "one" or ob-rea-on which means “the beautiful young man”. Oberon is likely related to Gwyn ap Nudd, the Welsh Fairy/Goblin King, and possibly not derived all from Alberich, which is the common assumption."
I have removed that section as it is unsourced completely unaccepted and ridiculous. There is no evidence for "Oberon" in Ireland. Oberon is a character from French literature derived most likely from a Frankish name. This is really just the editors preferred "origin", hence its inclusion as fact at the top. I'm sorry my dear "Wiccans" but not all words related to fairies, elves, ghosts, demons and any other "supernatural" character are derived from Gaelic or Welsh (which are not identical anyway) no matter what some book published by Llewellyn says, especially ones from the literature of other countries. I am trying to assume good faith but this sort of vandalism is becoming very common on folklore and supernatural literature related articles.
I was incorrect as saying it was all unsourced, the source was given by Charles MacKay, a man whose etymological theories weren't taken seriously during his lifetime and certainly not now. However the part about Gwyn ap Nudd isn't even mentioned by MacKay.
I shall try to re-add McKay's view but not as fact as he is regarded universally as a fantasist. Even the article on this site says as much and will give you links to articles by etymologists about his work. You can also view his work and see it in all its glory for yourself. Sigurd Dragon Slayer ( talk) 23:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
The article originally said "Oberon, King of the Fairies," and " "Oberon" as king of the elves has an earlier history, as Alberich (elbe "elves" reix, rex "king")".
Since 2010, it says "Oberon (also spelled Auberon) is a king of the fairies" and "Oberon's status as king of the fairies comes from the character of Alberich (from Old High German alb- "elf" and -rîh-, "ruler", "king"),".
So, what makes more sense? The RedBurn ( ϕ) 15:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
He is also in the video game skill the hero slayer 72.83.220.58 ( talk) 03:04, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
With my most recent edit, I removed the below paragraph from the 'French heroic song' section, as the information is unsourced and I was not able to find appropriate sourcing for it myself. If a proper source can be produced, please restore this paragraph:
"The real Seguin was Count of Bordeaux under Louis the Pious in 839 and died fighting against the Norsemen in 845. Charles l'Enfant, a son of Charles the Bald, died in 866 of wounds inflicted by a certain Aubouin in the circumstances of an ambush similar to the Charlot of the story. Thus, Oberon appears in a 13th-century French courtly fantasy that is based on a shred of 9th century fact."