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Should this article be updated regarding the Gibson lawsuit? The trial hasn't received a lot of media attention for reasons that aren't clear - even alumni are generally unaware of it, but the college's efforts in supporting student efforts to libel and destroy a local business may meet the notability threshold. 人族 ( talk) 10:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Here is another source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4163:AD00:4115:73AD:8179:56E1 ( talk) 22:40, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks to a brilliant intervention by @ E.M.Gregory:, there are now *two* sections in the article on this topic. (Possibly, the placement of the new section is better.) -- JBL ( talk) 00:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
At present mention of the Gibson's debacle has been reduced to a brief paragraph buried under "Campus culture" in a "Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College" subsection of its "Political activism" subsection. Might something involving Oberlin that has garnered as much national media attention as has the Gibson's suit and its surrounding circumstances perhaps be more aptly placed in the "History" section's "21st century" subsection? Filing such away under "Campus culture" and "Political activism" seems to me extraordinarily reductive and at risk of giving readers an impression of intentional PR conscious evasiveness (i.e. it may seem to some to have been left out of the more prominently placed "History" section as something disquieting to the university's self image which might further suggest editing tainted by ideological alignments).
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The blog legalinsurrection.com is clearly inappropriate as a source; any references to it (and any information that cannot be sourced elsewhere) should be removed asap. (I have posted an advertisement of this on WP:RSN.) -- JBL ( talk) 18:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
I concur with User:E.M.Gregory and with User:Netoholic's response to the WP:RSN posting:
* reliable, at least for coverage of legal issues. This falls within WP:SPS as
produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. Media Bias/Fact Check rates LI's factual accuracy as "high" and not failed a fact check. The factual content of LI's frontline coverage of this court case in particular has been cited by many other reliable news sources [4] [5] [6] [7]. -- Netoholic @ 22:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
While editorial content on the Legal Insurrection site seems to me to have a clear overall socio-political slant (which they seem pretty open about, others are not all so forthcoming in my experience) the factual content seems well researched and robustly referenced. Particularly as it relates to Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College matters. In such they often draw from the accounts of a regional journalist who has attended in person most all of the proceedings throughout and furthermore regularly both link to and embed full text copies of official court documents. In doing so they offer readers both many first-hand accounts and a comparatively rare readily-at-hand opportunity to follow up by judging the actual official record—and Legal Insurrection's, or anyone else's, editorial interpretation of it—for themselves.
In light of User:JBL's expressions both here and above in § Gibson's Bakery Lawsuit and in the pattern of their edits within the article itself I'd like to respectfully suggest they engage in some self inquiry as to whether their own socio-political biases (and/or sense of WP:OWNership) might be interfering with their ability to distinguish "factual" from "editorial" in regard to this topic and to extend reasonably neutral consideration to other editors.
-- 99.32.150.12 ( talk) 14:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
The links on the phrase "albino squirrel" don't provide much useful information, since the majority of squirrels that people call albino are technically not albino, but "leucistic". See Tree squirrel#Albino and white squirrels... -- AnonMoos ( talk) 12:26, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
How is it possible that in an article about a college that has existed from 1880s references 1 and 2 are missing and from 2021 71.178.33.122 ( talk) 20:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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Editors of this article might be interested in this AfD discussion. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 04:19, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Should this article be updated regarding the Gibson lawsuit? The trial hasn't received a lot of media attention for reasons that aren't clear - even alumni are generally unaware of it, but the college's efforts in supporting student efforts to libel and destroy a local business may meet the notability threshold. 人族 ( talk) 10:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Here is another source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4163:AD00:4115:73AD:8179:56E1 ( talk) 22:40, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks to a brilliant intervention by @ E.M.Gregory:, there are now *two* sections in the article on this topic. (Possibly, the placement of the new section is better.) -- JBL ( talk) 00:45, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
At present mention of the Gibson's debacle has been reduced to a brief paragraph buried under "Campus culture" in a "Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College" subsection of its "Political activism" subsection. Might something involving Oberlin that has garnered as much national media attention as has the Gibson's suit and its surrounding circumstances perhaps be more aptly placed in the "History" section's "21st century" subsection? Filing such away under "Campus culture" and "Political activism" seems to me extraordinarily reductive and at risk of giving readers an impression of intentional PR conscious evasiveness (i.e. it may seem to some to have been left out of the more prominently placed "History" section as something disquieting to the university's self image which might further suggest editing tainted by ideological alignments).
-- 99.32.150.12 ( talk) 20:54, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
The blog legalinsurrection.com is clearly inappropriate as a source; any references to it (and any information that cannot be sourced elsewhere) should be removed asap. (I have posted an advertisement of this on WP:RSN.) -- JBL ( talk) 18:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
I concur with User:E.M.Gregory and with User:Netoholic's response to the WP:RSN posting:
* reliable, at least for coverage of legal issues. This falls within WP:SPS as
produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. Media Bias/Fact Check rates LI's factual accuracy as "high" and not failed a fact check. The factual content of LI's frontline coverage of this court case in particular has been cited by many other reliable news sources [4] [5] [6] [7]. -- Netoholic @ 22:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
While editorial content on the Legal Insurrection site seems to me to have a clear overall socio-political slant (which they seem pretty open about, others are not all so forthcoming in my experience) the factual content seems well researched and robustly referenced. Particularly as it relates to Gibson's Bakery v. Oberlin College matters. In such they often draw from the accounts of a regional journalist who has attended in person most all of the proceedings throughout and furthermore regularly both link to and embed full text copies of official court documents. In doing so they offer readers both many first-hand accounts and a comparatively rare readily-at-hand opportunity to follow up by judging the actual official record—and Legal Insurrection's, or anyone else's, editorial interpretation of it—for themselves.
In light of User:JBL's expressions both here and above in § Gibson's Bakery Lawsuit and in the pattern of their edits within the article itself I'd like to respectfully suggest they engage in some self inquiry as to whether their own socio-political biases (and/or sense of WP:OWNership) might be interfering with their ability to distinguish "factual" from "editorial" in regard to this topic and to extend reasonably neutral consideration to other editors.
-- 99.32.150.12 ( talk) 14:16, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
The links on the phrase "albino squirrel" don't provide much useful information, since the majority of squirrels that people call albino are technically not albino, but "leucistic". See Tree squirrel#Albino and white squirrels... -- AnonMoos ( talk) 12:26, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
How is it possible that in an article about a college that has existed from 1880s references 1 and 2 are missing and from 2021 71.178.33.122 ( talk) 20:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)