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Bill Ayers says the connexion came to light in the British press before coming Stateside. This article suggests Hannity & co. dug it up. Any sources? - LlywelynII ( talk) 07:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I really dislike the term being used in an article title if at all avoidable. How about simply Bill Ayers and the 2008 presidential election聽? Tarc ( talk) 19:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Can we please restore the old title? It is indeed a controversy and can be sourced as such, even if a manufactured or misleading one. Perhaps not ideal, but that's not the encyclopedia's fault, as the event itself is an exercise in positioning. Any article that uses the title itself to discredit the subject is probably not neutral or encyclopedic, and indeed brouhaha is too informal and peculiar a term. Per BRD, and for purposes of article stability and not wasting people's time, etc., best not move around articles like this so readily. - Wikidemon ( talk) 01:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a film of Bill Ayers discussing the infiltration of socialistic ideals and communal ideology into the classrooms of America. When asked about the Presidents role in his plans, he stated simply that, "Obama has to do what he is doing and this is what WE must do, we get into the schools and we have the children's minds for generations.". There are a dozen or more videos of such meetings.There seems to be no mention made of any personal association made with President Obama. There is, however, evidence that they share a common vision of a Communistic form replacing the Republic form of the United States government. There is no evidence that, other than a shared ideology, that Bill Ayers and Barack Obama communicate or trade ideas at this time. 70.105.231.143 ( talk) 19:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC) [1]
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Bill Ayers says the connexion came to light in the British press before coming Stateside. This article suggests Hannity & co. dug it up. Any sources? - LlywelynII ( talk) 07:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I really dislike the term being used in an article title if at all avoidable. How about simply Bill Ayers and the 2008 presidential election聽? Tarc ( talk) 19:22, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
Can we please restore the old title? It is indeed a controversy and can be sourced as such, even if a manufactured or misleading one. Perhaps not ideal, but that's not the encyclopedia's fault, as the event itself is an exercise in positioning. Any article that uses the title itself to discredit the subject is probably not neutral or encyclopedic, and indeed brouhaha is too informal and peculiar a term. Per BRD, and for purposes of article stability and not wasting people's time, etc., best not move around articles like this so readily. - Wikidemon ( talk) 01:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
There is a film of Bill Ayers discussing the infiltration of socialistic ideals and communal ideology into the classrooms of America. When asked about the Presidents role in his plans, he stated simply that, "Obama has to do what he is doing and this is what WE must do, we get into the schools and we have the children's minds for generations.". There are a dozen or more videos of such meetings.There seems to be no mention made of any personal association made with President Obama. There is, however, evidence that they share a common vision of a Communistic form replacing the Republic form of the United States government. There is no evidence that, other than a shared ideology, that Bill Ayers and Barack Obama communicate or trade ideas at this time. 70.105.231.143 ( talk) 19:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC) [1]
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