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Before deleting it, let's wait until the Keynote due for today will take place. Gorthan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.181.41 ( talk • contribs)
Just wondering if there's any reason the X logo in the article should have any different licensing than File:Community_2009_logo.svg ? Althepal ( talk) 19:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
It's not Summer at the same time on half the globe. Are they talking about Q4 or Q2 here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.206.102 ( talk) 14:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Resolution independence is and remains one of the most anticipated/hoped-for features, but surprisingly there's no information about it from Apple, at least to my knowledge. Has there yet been any official word either confirming or denying? With Macs having up to 2560x1440 res., both the largest and smallest MacBooks having fairly high DPI, and higher res. (like 3840x2160?) and DPI inevitable, it'd be crazy and painful to not have it ready to go. An even further delayed introduction in 10.8 would be about 6 years late ...at least.
Of course we'll know more about this in the summer. When it is intro'd, of course the article should mention it, but if it isn't, then the reaction from some prominent sources could warrant some mention and references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.83.111 ( talk) 19:27, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, now this is hilarious. Literally minutes after I posted the above, info about "HiDPI display modes" in 10.7 hit the web. From what I've read thus far, it doesn't quite look like full resolution independence, but a halfway solution that would support quad resolution (double height/double width), an acceptable workaround if full res. independence is still too buggy to implement. More info will eventually be available from official sources to justify inclusion in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.83.111 ( talk) 20:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Since a Developer build was released, I think that info should go into the article and infobox. Althepal ( talk) 22:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
What is likely to minimum hardware for this version of OSX? Is Apple planning on dropping support for the first gen Intel macs (e.g. the Core Duo iMac?)? 82.69.60.196 ( talk)
Is there any source that says full screen mode requires a new button? I was under the impression that it would use the green zoom button. Should we remove the "new button" reference from the article? -- Thekmc ( talk) 14:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
In that case, we need a source for that. -- Thekmc ( talk) 22:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Autosave is coming in Lion but the article says "Like iOS". This is untrue. Developers are encouraged to add auto-saving functionality, but there is no built-in API like that of Lion in at least iOS 4.x. Of course, unless someone can show me the documentation (I'd love to be proven wrong. It's annoying that Apple says iOS has this, yet the API doesn't back it up as far as I know). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.193.124 ( talk) 01:49, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
The iOS style scroll bars no longer disappear by default when they are not being used. They are now fixed along the right side of each window though you can have them fade automatically, stay all the time, or fade according to your input device in the preferences. See photo here.
Read about this on this thread. -- Eiduur ( talk) 19:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Does anybody know definitely whether the PPC emulator Rosetta will still be part of 10.7 or not?
92.226.203.91 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC).
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08:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Apple, according to a press release, will release Mac OS X Lion at WWDC, along with a few other things. Here's the page.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/05/31wwdc.html
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.110.55 ( talk) 22:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Will we still be allowed to Save documents manually in addition to the Autosave feature just as a double check (IE just in case the Autosave skips a beat for some reason, and I'm typing a report that really, really needs to be Saved)? Perhaps this should be clarified in the Article. Frankly, I hope that such is the case. (Openapple S is a very simple command and very easy to remember.) The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 03:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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I am surprised there isn't more discussion about the "double-upgrade" path from a user's present OS, to Snow Leopard - with implied cost - then again to Lion ...
This forces users who won't use Snow Leopard to pay for it anyway before being able to upgrade to Lion. Very arrogant behavior toward customers on Apple's part.
iTunes is a download mechanism that could provide the content, if Apple is truly wishing to just get away from physical media.
However, without physical media, and the Mac App Store being the only outlet, Apple is also cutting out the likes of Amazon, eBay, and other venues that have been sources for consumers before. This also forces users to create an account on the Mac App Store. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.20.163.202 ( talk) 18:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The Article mentions that the frames of GUI windows are a slightly different shade of gray, and other things relating purely to visual appearance of the Graphic Interface. I'm assuming these are default settings. These matters of visual appearance are customizable via System Preferences (unless Apple is dropping System Preferences, which would surprise me; the trend since around 2000 has been toward more customizability rather than less). In any case, the Article should clarify this. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 20:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Im not sure about everyone else but i am getting fedup of users, normally IP users putting in release dates. They are no even constant they seem to be random! Its happening allot and people seem to ignore the hidden notes in the code. Can we protect the article to stop people from doing this please? Thanks. -- JetBlast ( talk) 22:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
there are two different versions of Lion depending on your Mac. Isn't this the first version of OS X to have different versions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.245.196.201 ( talk) 00:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Second paragraph of "Release and Distribution" shows "yes, but I have a big hot dog." When attempting to edit out the line is non-existent. How do we remove this from the article, clearly vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.217.82 ( talk) 04:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
http://store.apple.com/us/questions/product/MD256Z/A
"Do you still need to upgrade to snow Leopard before upgrading to Lion with the USB Thumb Drive?
Asked by MT Aug 17, 2011
Legally, yes, according to the OS X Lion Software License Agreement (part below) you need to have Snow Leopard license to purchase Lion, this is why it is cheaper. However what you download from the App Store and what is available on the thumb drive are considered "full versions". For example, I downloaded Lion from the App Store and burnt it onto a thumb drive myself. Then I did a "clean install" (or format and install) on my MacBook.
Answered by SO from Bathurst Aug 17, 2011"
"Is it possible to upgrade straight from Leopard to Lion using this product?
Asked by BB from Blayney Aug 16, 2011
You cannot upgrade your existing installation, apps and user data intact, from Leopard - but you can erase & install a fresh copy of Lion using it. I suspect the Migration Assistant would have no problem migrating settings over from your old install if you were to, say, make a bootable backup of the drive elsewhere first, but I haven't done that. Migration Assistant has traditionally been more "forgiving" about the source data than actual OS install.
Answered by MO from Redford Sep 28, 2011" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.39.38 ( talk) 21:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
A wikipedia article is not a propaganda page for Apple Inc. The contents must be based on evidence. If you review the User Comments in the Apple App Store for Lion 10.7, the majority are negative, plus some positive comments. Therefore, this mix of many negative plus some positive is evidence of the response being lukewarm. I edited wikipedia to refer to the lukewarm response, and this was deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.93.102 ( talk • contribs) 00:51, May 22, 2012
FaceTime is available for Snow Leopard as a download and so can't be seen as a feature of Lion. 193.60.83.241 ( talk) 22:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
FaceTime isn't a feature of Lion. Rather, it is included in Lion. -- Paddude ( talk) 17:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
The reference page now links to Mountain Lion, so it should be changed to link to an old Lion spec sheet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vahnx ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Mountain Lion came out 7/25/2012 and now Lion is nowhere to be found. This causes a problem for me and probably many others. My machine does not support Mountain Lion and I was taking my time to upgrade. Now I can't! This is the first time it has become officially impossible to upgrade to a previous OS that is only one version old. I believe this deserves mention in the article. 24.249.175.130 ( talk) 15:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The "Dropped features" section doesn't mention dropping Samba because of GPLv3 – see http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/03/24/1546205/apple-remove-samba-from-os-x-107-because-of-gplv3 . -- Лъчезар☭共产主义万岁★ 16:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed that Apple seems to have renamed "Mac OS X Lion" to just "OS X Lion", dropping the "Mac" prefix? Not sure what this means for the name of this article, but it might have to be considered. Take a look: http://www.apple.com/macosx/ -- Samvscat ( talk) 19:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason behind the dropping of the "Mac"? -- megA ( talk) 09:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
It's likely time to move this, now. The product is clearly "OS X Lion", not "Mac OS X Lion". Final thoughts? -- Ds13 ( talk) 19:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Probably just another marketing strategy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReadTheGuidelines ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Lion the final version of OSX? If not, what cat will they assign to 10.8? 108.23.147.17 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC).
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Serlet is the founding father of the OS? That must be news to Avie and many others. The source cited can't go into any detail save making the same uncorroborated claim, but it does say specifically that he worked *under* Avie. Would that people came to WP without an agenda but more discretion, at the very least it'd help WP shed the reputation of being ridiculous and irrelevant. Really. Brett Alexander Hunter ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
'Marketed as'? As opposed to what it really is? Who dreams up this nonsense? The operating system is now called 'OS X'. Period. Get with it. And stop behaving like little runny nose twerps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.254.236.183 ( talk • contribs) 10:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
Before deleting it, let's wait until the Keynote due for today will take place. Gorthan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.181.41 ( talk • contribs)
Just wondering if there's any reason the X logo in the article should have any different licensing than File:Community_2009_logo.svg ? Althepal ( talk) 19:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
It's not Summer at the same time on half the globe. Are they talking about Q4 or Q2 here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.206.102 ( talk) 14:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Resolution independence is and remains one of the most anticipated/hoped-for features, but surprisingly there's no information about it from Apple, at least to my knowledge. Has there yet been any official word either confirming or denying? With Macs having up to 2560x1440 res., both the largest and smallest MacBooks having fairly high DPI, and higher res. (like 3840x2160?) and DPI inevitable, it'd be crazy and painful to not have it ready to go. An even further delayed introduction in 10.8 would be about 6 years late ...at least.
Of course we'll know more about this in the summer. When it is intro'd, of course the article should mention it, but if it isn't, then the reaction from some prominent sources could warrant some mention and references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.83.111 ( talk) 19:27, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, now this is hilarious. Literally minutes after I posted the above, info about "HiDPI display modes" in 10.7 hit the web. From what I've read thus far, it doesn't quite look like full resolution independence, but a halfway solution that would support quad resolution (double height/double width), an acceptable workaround if full res. independence is still too buggy to implement. More info will eventually be available from official sources to justify inclusion in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.254.83.111 ( talk) 20:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Since a Developer build was released, I think that info should go into the article and infobox. Althepal ( talk) 22:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
What is likely to minimum hardware for this version of OSX? Is Apple planning on dropping support for the first gen Intel macs (e.g. the Core Duo iMac?)? 82.69.60.196 ( talk)
Is there any source that says full screen mode requires a new button? I was under the impression that it would use the green zoom button. Should we remove the "new button" reference from the article? -- Thekmc ( talk) 14:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
In that case, we need a source for that. -- Thekmc ( talk) 22:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Autosave is coming in Lion but the article says "Like iOS". This is untrue. Developers are encouraged to add auto-saving functionality, but there is no built-in API like that of Lion in at least iOS 4.x. Of course, unless someone can show me the documentation (I'd love to be proven wrong. It's annoying that Apple says iOS has this, yet the API doesn't back it up as far as I know). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.193.124 ( talk) 01:49, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
The iOS style scroll bars no longer disappear by default when they are not being used. They are now fixed along the right side of each window though you can have them fade automatically, stay all the time, or fade according to your input device in the preferences. See photo here.
Read about this on this thread. -- Eiduur ( talk) 19:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Does anybody know definitely whether the PPC emulator Rosetta will still be part of 10.7 or not?
92.226.203.91 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:37, 5 January 2011 (UTC).
#!/bin/
DokReggar
-talk
08:29, 6 January 2011 (UTC)Apple, according to a press release, will release Mac OS X Lion at WWDC, along with a few other things. Here's the page.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/05/31wwdc.html
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.67.110.55 ( talk) 22:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Will we still be allowed to Save documents manually in addition to the Autosave feature just as a double check (IE just in case the Autosave skips a beat for some reason, and I'm typing a report that really, really needs to be Saved)? Perhaps this should be clarified in the Article. Frankly, I hope that such is the case. (Openapple S is a very simple command and very easy to remember.) The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 03:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
#!/bin/
DokReggar
-talk
11:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
I am surprised there isn't more discussion about the "double-upgrade" path from a user's present OS, to Snow Leopard - with implied cost - then again to Lion ...
This forces users who won't use Snow Leopard to pay for it anyway before being able to upgrade to Lion. Very arrogant behavior toward customers on Apple's part.
iTunes is a download mechanism that could provide the content, if Apple is truly wishing to just get away from physical media.
However, without physical media, and the Mac App Store being the only outlet, Apple is also cutting out the likes of Amazon, eBay, and other venues that have been sources for consumers before. This also forces users to create an account on the Mac App Store. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.20.163.202 ( talk) 18:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The Article mentions that the frames of GUI windows are a slightly different shade of gray, and other things relating purely to visual appearance of the Graphic Interface. I'm assuming these are default settings. These matters of visual appearance are customizable via System Preferences (unless Apple is dropping System Preferences, which would surprise me; the trend since around 2000 has been toward more customizability rather than less). In any case, the Article should clarify this. The Mysterious El Willstro ( talk) 20:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi. Im not sure about everyone else but i am getting fedup of users, normally IP users putting in release dates. They are no even constant they seem to be random! Its happening allot and people seem to ignore the hidden notes in the code. Can we protect the article to stop people from doing this please? Thanks. -- JetBlast ( talk) 22:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
there are two different versions of Lion depending on your Mac. Isn't this the first version of OS X to have different versions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.245.196.201 ( talk) 00:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Second paragraph of "Release and Distribution" shows "yes, but I have a big hot dog." When attempting to edit out the line is non-existent. How do we remove this from the article, clearly vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.217.82 ( talk) 04:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
http://store.apple.com/us/questions/product/MD256Z/A
"Do you still need to upgrade to snow Leopard before upgrading to Lion with the USB Thumb Drive?
Asked by MT Aug 17, 2011
Legally, yes, according to the OS X Lion Software License Agreement (part below) you need to have Snow Leopard license to purchase Lion, this is why it is cheaper. However what you download from the App Store and what is available on the thumb drive are considered "full versions". For example, I downloaded Lion from the App Store and burnt it onto a thumb drive myself. Then I did a "clean install" (or format and install) on my MacBook.
Answered by SO from Bathurst Aug 17, 2011"
"Is it possible to upgrade straight from Leopard to Lion using this product?
Asked by BB from Blayney Aug 16, 2011
You cannot upgrade your existing installation, apps and user data intact, from Leopard - but you can erase & install a fresh copy of Lion using it. I suspect the Migration Assistant would have no problem migrating settings over from your old install if you were to, say, make a bootable backup of the drive elsewhere first, but I haven't done that. Migration Assistant has traditionally been more "forgiving" about the source data than actual OS install.
Answered by MO from Redford Sep 28, 2011" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.39.38 ( talk) 21:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
A wikipedia article is not a propaganda page for Apple Inc. The contents must be based on evidence. If you review the User Comments in the Apple App Store for Lion 10.7, the majority are negative, plus some positive comments. Therefore, this mix of many negative plus some positive is evidence of the response being lukewarm. I edited wikipedia to refer to the lukewarm response, and this was deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.93.102 ( talk • contribs) 00:51, May 22, 2012
FaceTime is available for Snow Leopard as a download and so can't be seen as a feature of Lion. 193.60.83.241 ( talk) 22:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
FaceTime isn't a feature of Lion. Rather, it is included in Lion. -- Paddude ( talk) 17:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
The reference page now links to Mountain Lion, so it should be changed to link to an old Lion spec sheet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vahnx ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Mountain Lion came out 7/25/2012 and now Lion is nowhere to be found. This causes a problem for me and probably many others. My machine does not support Mountain Lion and I was taking my time to upgrade. Now I can't! This is the first time it has become officially impossible to upgrade to a previous OS that is only one version old. I believe this deserves mention in the article. 24.249.175.130 ( talk) 15:19, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The "Dropped features" section doesn't mention dropping Samba because of GPLv3 – see http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/03/24/1546205/apple-remove-samba-from-os-x-107-because-of-gplv3 . -- Лъчезар☭共产主义万岁★ 16:26, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
Has anyone noticed that Apple seems to have renamed "Mac OS X Lion" to just "OS X Lion", dropping the "Mac" prefix? Not sure what this means for the name of this article, but it might have to be considered. Take a look: http://www.apple.com/macosx/ -- Samvscat ( talk) 19:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Is there a reason behind the dropping of the "Mac"? -- megA ( talk) 09:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
It's likely time to move this, now. The product is clearly "OS X Lion", not "Mac OS X Lion". Final thoughts? -- Ds13 ( talk) 19:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Probably just another marketing strategy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReadTheGuidelines ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Is Lion the final version of OSX? If not, what cat will they assign to 10.8? 108.23.147.17 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC).
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Serlet is the founding father of the OS? That must be news to Avie and many others. The source cited can't go into any detail save making the same uncorroborated claim, but it does say specifically that he worked *under* Avie. Would that people came to WP without an agenda but more discretion, at the very least it'd help WP shed the reputation of being ridiculous and irrelevant. Really. Brett Alexander Hunter ( talk) 16:16, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
'Marketed as'? As opposed to what it really is? Who dreams up this nonsense? The operating system is now called 'OS X'. Period. Get with it. And stop behaving like little runny nose twerps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.254.236.183 ( talk • contribs) 10:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)