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What are the minimum hardware requirements for OS X 10.11? Will it run on any Mac that is capable of running Yosemite? 195.10.114.196 ( talk) 17:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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It has been released for public beta testers, too. Please edit.
I don't know how I can upload the screenshot of the email, but, yeah.
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Not done: It already says that in the infobox.
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Public beta is now available. 101.127.10.208 ( talk) 00:26, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I think it makes sense to use the future tense vis-a-vis releasing El Capitan, but the software already exists (otherwise there wouldn't be an article). Can we use the present tense aside from the introductory summary paragraph and where discussing the actual released version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamnelson ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Article currently reads in part "announced to be available to end users in the fall of 2015". MOS:SEASON states that "seasons to refer to a particular time of year (winter 1995) is ambiguous, because Northern and Southern Hemisphere seasons are six months out of phase". The phrase should probably be changed to either "announced to be available to end users in late 2015" or "announced to be available to end users toward the end of 2015". 208.81.212.222 ( talk) 21:25, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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The article currently reads, in part, "and compute API Metal" with a link to both Application programming interface for API and Metal (API) for Metal. That goes against WP:SPECIFICLINK, "Always link to the article on the most specific topic appropriate to the context from which you link" and so it should simply be linked as and compute [[Metal (API)|API Metal]]. It wouldn't hurt to have the sentence make a bit more sense as it is currently not clear what the change is, but I don't have a concrete suggestion to fix that. 208.81.212.222 ( talk) 21:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Public Beta 2 OS build version is incorrect. it should be 15A225f, not 15A226f. Hkatsura ( talk) 17:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
The "reception" bit needs updated, or perhaps a new section, because if you look at the App Store, it has 2.5 out of 5 stars. I myself have been very annoyed by this "upgrade." They removed "Secure Delete," completely destroyed the disc utility, and made it so I can't even change when my computer sleeps (only lets me choose when the display turns off). A LOT of people are VERY unhappy with this, so I do not know why the article has not mentioned this at all. Zagadka314 ( talk) 03:18, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
The "reception section" needs updates indeed; only positive reception has been mentioned here, while e.g.
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Make an edit and a reference that tell that OS X 10.11.3 beta 1 was released on December 16, 2015. 173.76.106.200 ( talk) 22:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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Add semi lock 122.62.42.99 ( talk) 01:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
The article mentions VRAM in the Features section. The VRAM article is about a type of obsolete DRAM used in the 1980s and 1990s; and is not what this article is referring to. Since this article is protected, I can't remove the link myself, as my account has yet to be confirmed. Could someone please remove the link? AZ1199 ( talk) 03:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi,
If a column could be added to the release chart with the Version numbers of the
Installer
Apps, it’d be helpful. The 10.11.1 Installer app was Version 1.7.33 created 10/17/15,
and
the 10.11.2 Installer app was Version 1.7.37 created 12/2/15. UPDATE: The current version (10.11.3) as
of January 19 2016 is 1.7.41
FWIW, I also still have a Yosemite Install app dated August 2015, version number 1.6.43.
Since Apple names these install apps without without rev numbers included in the name of the app, this will be a big help in telling them apart, so as to be able to certify that it’s the most recently released version
Thanks. Once I get my digital hands on the current beta, I’ll pass the VN(s) along in this space. (UPDATED ABOVE)
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On the "Releases" section, the latest beta 10.11.4 release date is wrong it should date February 8, 2016. The build number for the beta release 10.11.4 also does not match the build number on the "general information" box on top right. Please review carefully these observations.
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reliable source to support your claims. Reopen the request when you have one.
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Who ever wrote the 'Reception' part either is extremely misinformed, or extremely biased. Take a look at the user-reviews in the Apple app-store for El Capitan. It is THE worst user-rated OS X updated ever.
Many user's productivity took a HUGE hit when they 'upgraded' to this OS. It has both software and hardware implications on user's and that is no reflected in the reception section of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John D Bronson ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Will be useful to add how to use it, pressing the green botton on the upper left corner of the window — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.49.233 ( talk) 15:16, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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The lastest release date is not counting correctly, it says 1 day ago Tanchee06 ( talk) 01:17, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Not done - as it now says 6 days ago - this is a semi-automatic age which isn't even on this page, it is "transcluded" from another page. Although the semi-automatic age needs an edit (any edit) to the page to update it, it is far better than a purely manual age. -
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The latest preview release 10.11.5 beta date since released is not counting correctly. it says april 6 "6 days ago", it should 10 days ago
Tanchee06 ( talk) 03:23, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
The Mac Mini Mid 2007 is not supported by El Capitan since it has the GMA 950. Reference : https://support.apple.com/kb/SP728?locale=en_GB — Preceding unsigned comment added by KawaiiAuracchi ( talk • contribs) 17:15, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I just learned from Google News that 10.12 is Sierra. Is this right?? Georgia guy ( talk) 17:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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I'd really like to know what the source for this in the Infobox is, please?
"|support status = Unsupported as of August 2018. iTunes support ends next year."
Personally I've stopped receiving any updates since about this time, and all my installed Mac App Store apps say the minimum requirement is 10.12, but I still have my older versions with no updates forthcoming. Thank you to anyone that can help. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. Thin Smek) ( talk) 11:36, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Apple's support policy is arbitrary and ambiguous, to say the least. They never seem to officially announce the end of support for any OS version. Further, they muddy the waters by continuing to update certain components while not updating the other components. For what it's worth, Google Chrome is still updated and supported on OS X Yosemite 10.10 (source: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/7100626?hl=en), which hasn't been "supported" by Apple in more than two years (source: /info/en/?search=OS_X_Yosemite#Release_history). Also, Apple requires the latest version of OS X for certain products like iMovie, even though the previous versions of the OS are still supported. Case in point, OS Sierra is still supported but iMovie and Pages, Keynote, etc require OS High Sierra 10.3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.211.46.240 ( talk) 17:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both, and thank you for your edits, IP editor. I do remember getting an iTunes update this year as you just put in the Infobox. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 21:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Amazed and disappointed to find on 7 October 2021 this OS, barely six years old, aand which I happen to have on a Mac Pro which is going to cost a bit to replace, since it won't accommodate more up to date OS ( and cost, new, the equicalent of a viable second-hand car, is to lose all suport on 31 October 2021. And still no discussion explaining Apple's policy of operating in this apparently arbitrary fashion. The same reflection applies to all my fellow Wikipedians, some of whom must have been in the know since at the latest the middle of this year Delahays ( talk) 19:42, 7 October 2021 (UTC).
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What are the minimum hardware requirements for OS X 10.11? Will it run on any Mac that is capable of running Yosemite? 195.10.114.196 ( talk) 17:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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It has been released for public beta testers, too. Please edit.
I don't know how I can upload the screenshot of the email, but, yeah.
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12:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Not done: It already says that in the infobox.
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Public beta is now available. 101.127.10.208 ( talk) 00:26, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
I think it makes sense to use the future tense vis-a-vis releasing El Capitan, but the software already exists (otherwise there wouldn't be an article). Can we use the present tense aside from the introductory summary paragraph and where discussing the actual released version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamnelson ( talk • contribs) 13:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Article currently reads in part "announced to be available to end users in the fall of 2015". MOS:SEASON states that "seasons to refer to a particular time of year (winter 1995) is ambiguous, because Northern and Southern Hemisphere seasons are six months out of phase". The phrase should probably be changed to either "announced to be available to end users in late 2015" or "announced to be available to end users toward the end of 2015". 208.81.212.222 ( talk) 21:25, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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The article currently reads, in part, "and compute API Metal" with a link to both Application programming interface for API and Metal (API) for Metal. That goes against WP:SPECIFICLINK, "Always link to the article on the most specific topic appropriate to the context from which you link" and so it should simply be linked as and compute [[Metal (API)|API Metal]]. It wouldn't hurt to have the sentence make a bit more sense as it is currently not clear what the change is, but I don't have a concrete suggestion to fix that. 208.81.212.222 ( talk) 21:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
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Public Beta 2 OS build version is incorrect. it should be 15A225f, not 15A226f. Hkatsura ( talk) 17:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
The "reception" bit needs updated, or perhaps a new section, because if you look at the App Store, it has 2.5 out of 5 stars. I myself have been very annoyed by this "upgrade." They removed "Secure Delete," completely destroyed the disc utility, and made it so I can't even change when my computer sleeps (only lets me choose when the display turns off). A LOT of people are VERY unhappy with this, so I do not know why the article has not mentioned this at all. Zagadka314 ( talk) 03:18, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
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Make an edit and a reference that tell that OS X 10.11.3 beta 1 was released on December 16, 2015. 173.76.106.200 ( talk) 22:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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Add semi lock 122.62.42.99 ( talk) 01:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
The article mentions VRAM in the Features section. The VRAM article is about a type of obsolete DRAM used in the 1980s and 1990s; and is not what this article is referring to. Since this article is protected, I can't remove the link myself, as my account has yet to be confirmed. Could someone please remove the link? AZ1199 ( talk) 03:32, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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Hi,
If a column could be added to the release chart with the Version numbers of the
Installer
Apps, it’d be helpful. The 10.11.1 Installer app was Version 1.7.33 created 10/17/15,
and
the 10.11.2 Installer app was Version 1.7.37 created 12/2/15. UPDATE: The current version (10.11.3) as
of January 19 2016 is 1.7.41
FWIW, I also still have a Yosemite Install app dated August 2015, version number 1.6.43.
Since Apple names these install apps without without rev numbers included in the name of the app, this will be a big help in telling them apart, so as to be able to certify that it’s the most recently released version
Thanks. Once I get my digital hands on the current beta, I’ll pass the VN(s) along in this space. (UPDATED ABOVE)
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On the "Releases" section, the latest beta 10.11.4 release date is wrong it should date February 8, 2016. The build number for the beta release 10.11.4 also does not match the build number on the "general information" box on top right. Please review carefully these observations.
Charlie7705 (
talk) 16:59, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Not done @
Charlie7705: Please supply us with a
reliable source to support your claims. Reopen the request when you have one.
Anarchyte (
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09:38, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Who ever wrote the 'Reception' part either is extremely misinformed, or extremely biased. Take a look at the user-reviews in the Apple app-store for El Capitan. It is THE worst user-rated OS X updated ever.
Many user's productivity took a HUGE hit when they 'upgraded' to this OS. It has both software and hardware implications on user's and that is no reflected in the reception section of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by John D Bronson ( talk • contribs) 16:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Will be useful to add how to use it, pressing the green botton on the upper left corner of the window — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.49.233 ( talk) 15:16, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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The lastest release date is not counting correctly, it says 1 day ago Tanchee06 ( talk) 01:17, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Not done - as it now says 6 days ago - this is a semi-automatic age which isn't even on this page, it is "transcluded" from another page. Although the semi-automatic age needs an edit (any edit) to the page to update it, it is far better than a purely manual age. -
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The latest preview release 10.11.5 beta date since released is not counting correctly. it says april 6 "6 days ago", it should 10 days ago
Tanchee06 ( talk) 03:23, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
The Mac Mini Mid 2007 is not supported by El Capitan since it has the GMA 950. Reference : https://support.apple.com/kb/SP728?locale=en_GB — Preceding unsigned comment added by KawaiiAuracchi ( talk • contribs) 17:15, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I just learned from Google News that 10.12 is Sierra. Is this right?? Georgia guy ( talk) 17:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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I'd really like to know what the source for this in the Infobox is, please?
"|support status = Unsupported as of August 2018. iTunes support ends next year."
Personally I've stopped receiving any updates since about this time, and all my installed Mac App Store apps say the minimum requirement is 10.12, but I still have my older versions with no updates forthcoming. Thank you to anyone that can help. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. Thin Smek) ( talk) 11:36, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Apple's support policy is arbitrary and ambiguous, to say the least. They never seem to officially announce the end of support for any OS version. Further, they muddy the waters by continuing to update certain components while not updating the other components. For what it's worth, Google Chrome is still updated and supported on OS X Yosemite 10.10 (source: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/7100626?hl=en), which hasn't been "supported" by Apple in more than two years (source: /info/en/?search=OS_X_Yosemite#Release_history). Also, Apple requires the latest version of OS X for certain products like iMovie, even though the previous versions of the OS are still supported. Case in point, OS Sierra is still supported but iMovie and Pages, Keynote, etc require OS High Sierra 10.3. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.211.46.240 ( talk) 17:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both, and thank you for your edits, IP editor. I do remember getting an iTunes update this year as you just put in the Infobox. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) ( talk) 21:21, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Amazed and disappointed to find on 7 October 2021 this OS, barely six years old, aand which I happen to have on a Mac Pro which is going to cost a bit to replace, since it won't accommodate more up to date OS ( and cost, new, the equicalent of a viable second-hand car, is to lose all suport on 31 October 2021. And still no discussion explaining Apple's policy of operating in this apparently arbitrary fashion. The same reflection applies to all my fellow Wikipedians, some of whom must have been in the know since at the latest the middle of this year Delahays ( talk) 19:42, 7 October 2021 (UTC).