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Shouldn't this page be named Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development instead of the current spelling with Organization with a 'z'. Checking their website seems to suggest that the British spelling is the proper name for the OECD. -- Popsracer 10:40, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Could anyone shed some light on what the conditions for joining the OECD are? I assume the country must first be a representative democracy and support free market economics? What other factors are there?
The Organisation for European Economic Co-operation (OEEC) should not just be lumped here. It was important in its time for early European integration and should be separate. Non? gren 12:52, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Why is French Guyana supposedly a part of the OECD on that map?? Asacarny 07:08, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Because French Guiana is, as the name hints, French. It is an overseas department, an integral part of the French Republic. Just as much as Alaska and Hawai'i are part of the US, or Northern Ireland is part of the UK. The whole of France (including French Guiana, French Polynesia and Reunion) is part of the OECD.
This (re-)write-up is rather glowing in its public relations styled descriptions of OECD activities. For example, it fails to mention that the OECD has served an active role in enforcing by coercion "taxation harmonization" so that all states worldwide share an approximately equal or greater level of taxation than the OECD deems "acceptable". The OECD also coerces nations into harmonizing their banking systems under the premise of "criminal money laundering", as opposed to people simply seeking tax-shelters -- which only those major world governments (as government organizations) oppose.
The OECD is hardly doing "all good". Read up on the back-catalog from Offshore Finance (still an external link, thankfully) for more information. See the writeup from before editing on September 12th 2005 by DGM for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.158.42.241 ( talk) 09:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Both statements are very inaccurate. Factually, the OECD doesn't have any way to coerce any country, member or not, to do whatever. However, this is a widespread opinion. I think the proper way to handle this is to create an OECD controversy page and take this off the main page. Jerjer 10:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I challenge that. If Southern countries did implement OECD suggestions systematically, the world would be a much different place. I stand by my argument that the OECD has no power to influence the policies of a country. However there are regularly discussions that take place at the OECD between high-level officials which can have concrete consequences. For instance the "polluter pays" principle was edicted within the walls of the OECD. I am also well aware that many programmes in which the OECD is involved are not making everyone happy. This is why I advocate the creation of an OECD controversy page where criticism againt the OECD could be organized in a more structured form. Jerjer ( talk) 16:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
EVERYONE: Please take a look at Jerjer's profile. He/She works for the OECD! Please take his/her comments with a grain of salt since he/she has a direct stake here. Jerjer, please refrain from editing/commenting on this Wikipedia article. You have a conflict of interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.182.225 ( talk) 16:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I think we should defer to the organization's own spelling of organisation - per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English -- undoubtedly in the spelling of the organization's name and preferably consistent throughout the article! Gary 13:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
According to the OECD's language policy, they use officially British English in their papers. So, organisation with "s" is correct (as also co-operation with "-").
The OECD has official language policy to use officialy British English. For this reaqson, the correct official name of this organization is Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. It's different with the OSCE as there is no official language policy (probably, I'm not sure as I'm not specialist on the OSCE). For this reason please don't move and rename the OECD page using "Cooperation". Beagel 16:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice to have a table for the political inclinations of the member states, as in Barroso Commission and Parties in the Council of the European Union. – Kaihsu 09:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I think it could be necessary to add the list of OECD different institutions. When it's not so difficult with list of directorates and departments (or institutions od OECD Secretariate), it will be more difficult with bodies consisting member and non-member countires (committees, working parties, working groups schemes, agencies etc), because the structure of bdifferent bodies is different and at the same time it's very complex. Maybe it could be better to have different page for each OECD body (there are already separate pages for the International Energy Agency, Nuclear Energy Agency and Development Centre)? There is also problem with listing members of different bodies, as every committe, working party etc has different set of members and observes. In case of some committees even not OECD all member countries are members of particular committee (e.g. Steel Committee). Moreover, there are plans for OECD reform, which will change overall structure of the OECD after 2008. Any suggestion how to deal with this? Beagel 13:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it will be more practical to divide these issues into separate sections? Also, somebody mentioned that the Republic of China (Taiwan) has observer status on two OECD committees. Actually the correct figure is 3 committees and some more bodies (totally 5). But the question is, where to list the observeships of non-members - under this section or under each committe? There are more than 50 non-members involved in different committees and working groups.
Also, referring to Taiwan, the OECD itself uses officially Chinese Taipei as a reference to this country. I think that we should respect the OECD's policy? Beagel 13:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
What's with the spelling "coöperation"? Rōnin 12:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Indeed ... if you go to www.oecd.org it is spelled "co-operation," which was the old name. The edit notes for the move indicate "reasons" but there are no reasons given on this page. Can User:Doremítzwr answer this question? Gary 12:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I took the liberty of creating a new page for the list of committees and subcommittees because, though very detailed and apparently accurate, it was unwieldy and created clutter, taking up most of the page space. Creationlaw 04:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Is Greenland part of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.217.254 ( talk) 13:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Whether the INDIAN firms are scaled over the TPP(Technological Product and Process)innovation by OECD
Incase no one noticed, I have added a map showing members and members with high income in seperate colours. -- Giorgos 13:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is French Guiana pictured on the maps of member states if it isn't a member state?
The Talking Sock talk contribs 16:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
All you people are uncivil, discourteous bastards to each other. A little more civility on these pages please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.170.168 ( talk) 18:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
OECD was accepted Chile's incorporation.
News of BBC LONDON says that.
Rubbish... I love the English.. ha ha ha.
can someone make a world map to show all the member countries? Jackzhp ( talk) 04:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
As wikipedia shows the "ideologies" for political parties, i think they could be shown too for this kind of "oriented" organization. Why not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism ? In the upper right corner's box, like for the political parties. To me, that would be useful, as the goal of the OECD is not "stabilizing and harmonizing economies within europe", but the promotion of certain economical ideologies.
setting in which governments can compare policy experiences, seek answers to common problems, identify good practices, and co-ordinate domestic and international policies. The mandate of the OECD is broad, covering economic, environmental, and social issues. It is a forum where peer pressure can act as a powerful incentive to improve policy and implement "soft law" — non-binding instruments that can occasionally lead to binding treaties. Exchanges between OECD governments flow from information and analysis provided by a secretariat in Paris. The secretariat collects data, monitors trends, and analyses and forecasts economic developments. It also researches social changes or evolving patterns in trade, environment, agriculture, technology, taxation and other areas. The OECD is also known as a premium statistical agency, as it publishes highly-comparable statistics on a very wide number of subjects. Over the past several decades, the OECD has tackled a range of economic, social, and environmental issues while further deepening its engagement with business, trade unions and other representatives of civil society. Collaboration at the OECD regarding taxation, for example, have fostered the growth of a global web of bilateral tax treaties.
This has absolutely NO meaning. Could be replaced by "OECD does cool but hard-to-understand economical stuff". OECD, for example, advocates flexibility (deregulation) of the working contracts. Where is it written? Nowhere. OECD is not neutral, neither is EU, neither is the G8, etc.... They have goals, and they ask governments to do things in accordance with their ideas. But this article is only here to replace an empty page, and is absolutely not informative. Good work, wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.196.65.218 ( talk) 18:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The OECD has 30 members. Also the EC participates in the work of the OECD according to the OECD Charter. In addition, several OECD's committees have some participants who are not the OECD members, observers etc. Usually they are these five countries invited to join the OECD or other major economies (Brazil; China), but all together there are 25 observers or regular members in the committees and around 50 countries participating in some way in the work of the OECD. The Republic of China (Taivan) doesn't have any special status in the OECD. It is an observer in the Trade Committee and participates in some minor bodies, but that's all. This is also incorrect to say that Taivan is an observer in the OECD because the OECD as whole doesn't have observers—the committees have. Beagel ( talk) 05:56, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
What on earth is this supposed to mean?
In the 1950s the OEEC provided the framework for negotiations aimed at determining conditions for setting up a European Free Trade Area, to bring the Common Market of the Six and the other OEEC members together on a multilateral basis.-- Filll ( talk | wpc) 05:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
this entry is not ecyclopedic, it is not from a neutral point of view, and it "seems" to be written by an advocate or associate of the entry's topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.68.58 ( talk) 23:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
To define, which countries are high income countries, the classification of the World Bank is used. According to this, only 27 OECD member countries are classified as high income economies. [1] Beagel ( talk) 18:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised that there is no mention in this section that this is a deliberate and concerted effort to expand OECD jurisdiction beyond its own member states. DOR (HK) ( talk) 08:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm from the United States and so this page might have been created in a different country, thereby leading to the question I have. In America, we spell Organization with a Z. If it's correct, then disregard my comment. Thanks
216.7.144.62 ( talk) 16:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
To clarify this, organization is spelled with a 'z' in British English (see the wikipedia page on -ize), but the OECD seems to have modelled the spelling of its name on the French -ise endings (its headquarters are in Paris). Marthiemoo ( talk) 16:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
This article mentions that OECD publishes 300 to 500 books per year, but in the article about OECDsource it mentions 250 books per year. I don't know which one is right, but I just noticed it. Bye, Lalena (can't login) 192.85.60.20 ( talk) 10:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Anom user IP 189.146.114.200 continues to remove the map showing OECD members, acceding countries and enhanced engagement countries, claiming that 'no such classification, they are not member nor in a list of accession'. However, both group of countries were named by the OECD Ministerial Council in 2007. [3] Therefore, I will restore the map. Before removing it, please discuss it here at the talk page. Beagel ( talk) 16:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
is indicated on the map as a member cuz it's a <ahem> department of france? Skakkle ( talk) 03:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
In December 2009 Chile formaly received the full invitation/admission for the OECD. All pending concerns had been cleared before. How is the status, is Chile already a plain member now? -- 81.210.217.100 ( talk) 18:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Although Chile is invited and has signed the accession agreement, it will become a member only after the ratification of the accession agreement by the National Congress and the deposition of the ratification instrument with the depositary Government (Government of France. Before that, Chile has to ratify the accession agreement. As of today, Chile is not a member yet although most likely it will become the member in coming months. Beagel ( talk) 05:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
As there will be also other accessions in the near future (4 countries are negotiating, of these, most likely three countries will join this year) just the clarification of the accession process:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. Beagel ( talk) 17:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
OECD also doesn't track the number of midgets or romantic comedies produced. This section is silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.160.5.251 ( talk) 16:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Should Chile be added to the map its just the news section on the front page says it joined... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.223.68 ( talk) 21:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
User:Alam82 added the 'Planned future membership' section which I removed for the following reasons:
Is the long section on "OECD institutions and bodies" really neccessary? Also, isn't "Organisation" spelled "Organization"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.246.172 ( talk) 03:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This section gives almost no information about reform and enlargement. What are the criteria for membership? What are the issues?
Instead, for some reason, there is a long screed about Israeli membership in OECD. The views given are not attributed to anyone, and are evidently those of Palestinian "anti-normalization" activists. Is Israel the only country under consideration? Is the major criteria for membership treatment of the Hamas?
How does membership in OECD help the Israeli economy? What specifically does Israel or any other country gain and what is the danger to OECD if Israel or another country that doesn't meet criteria joins?
Why is Israel singled out?
The tirade against Israel takes up most of the section and does not explain much about issues related to reform, nor does it explain anything about what the criteria are and what criteria Israel does not meet if settlers are not included. It simply states that Israel doesn't meet some criteria if settlers are not included. It presents no issues other than allegations of Israel human rights violations that are certainly not as extensive as those of Turkey for example, against its Kurdish minority. No authorities or sources are cited. [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] ( talk) 11:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why the member countries are divided as high-income countries and middle-income countries. The OECD website does not have that kind of division between its members. This division was probably inserted to the article to illustrate the point that the OECD is a "club of rich countries", but this is definitely POV which should be removed. Any objection if I remove this division between high-income and middle-income members? Beagel ( talk) 05:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is there an asterisk next to Turkey? If there is a reason, then it should be linked to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotband ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Turkey's a part of a list, and the asterisk signifies that it (as well as a few other countries) are upper-middle economies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.192.105 ( talk) 19:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
As I understand it, the country is still not a member. When will the instruments of ratification get disposition ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.3.134 ( talk) 01:17, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The article lead desperately needs a brief summary of what this organisation does. As I don't understand what this organisation does, I can't fix it myself, but perhaps someone else does and therefore can? -- Dweller ( talk) 08:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
The introduction now only indicates that it is an int. economic organization; and only much further goals and successes are shown. Could someone with a good overview on the subject write 2-3 lines on what this organization does/achieves? I am not comortable doing it myself as it remains a bit vague to me, but it would be a strong improvement for me... L.tak ( talk) 08:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Why do you use that data? Would not the International Monetary Found be more proper to seek for those statistics? I can not even find the data in the web page of the link it is written there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nordenskjöld ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Membership process in the OECD has following steps:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. Therefore, it is not correct to add Estonia, Israel or Slovenia in the members' list before deposition of their ratification instrument. The OECD has at the moment 31 members, not 34. Beagel ( talk) 18:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Isn't Estonia a member since June 2010??
Pelmeen10 (
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13:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be little indication of which indicators are displayed and which are not - so if those included are relatively arbitrary, I would suggest including a measure of equality such as the GINI coefficient would be helpful. Income equality is an important indicator for a country's standard of living, which is, according to the "Objectives and activities" section, a key aim of the OECD.
NZUlysses ( talk) 01:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Income inequality measure added.
NZUlysses (
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02:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Admitted later to OEEC (listed chronologically with year of admission):
Germany (1955)
Germany didn't exist in 1955, from the context I assume this was West Germany? -- 86.173.140.91 ( talk) 13:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Israel is a new officially member in the OECD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.94.160 ( talk) 14:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Isn't "Organisation" spelled "Organization"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.246.172 ( talk) 03:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The OECD has 25 different observers or regular members in the committees and around 50 countries participating in some way in the work of the OECD. Therefore, why Hong Kong should be mentioned as observer if we don't name any other observer in the different committees. There is also no accession negotiations or enhanced cooperation. Therefore, I removed mentioning Hong Kong's observer status. Beagel ( talk) 19:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
The article says that Cyprus applied in 1995 but was blocked by Turkey. It is true that these two countries have rigid relations and they blame each other in every case. I also believe that Turkey would like to block Cyprus accession and have blocked in several OECD committees and programmes. However, from technical point of view it can't block the Cyprus accession in 1995 as after accession of four CEEC countries which was decided already in the beginning of 1990s, there was no further enlargement strategy and no countries were invited to join the OECD (again, technically country application is a political document which has no legal status as the OECD invites itself its members) until the results of the Noburus working group were presented. As the working group never proposed inviting Cyprus, there was nothing to block by Turkey. Of course, the working group was aware of the Turkey's position and it may (or may not) had influenced their decision but this is a pure speculation. Therefore I think that we should avoid spreading the conflict between two countries into this article and keep only solid facts which is that CYprus applied in 1995. Beagel ( talk) 08:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Visually impaired persons need to enlarge the screen. The box enlarges, and the main text shrinks to a thin column with just a couple of words on a line, then disappears completely below the box.
The problem can be addressed by making the box narrower.
Quite a bit of the indicators data has just been updated, without explanation, and without any changed references. If these are good faith edits, please update the references accordingly. It may be necessary to revert these changes otherwise. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 20:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
estonia and israel along with slovenia joined the oecd in 2010 so i´m guessing slovenia´s omission from the map is due to its small size making it easy to miss. i´d correct it but i have no idea how to... -- Lotsofmagnets ( talk) 20:17, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
the wrong map of russia
where is crimea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolltheblunt ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Thinking that I should have a better idea of what the OECD is, I skimread the article. Or rather, I tried to. I quickly became sleepy and gave up. This was not because the OECD is an unglamorous subject. Rather -- well, let me illustrate by randomly plucked example:
This strikes me as having a peculiarly high bullshit ratio. No apologies for the vulgarism: it's one that has been supported by Princeton University Press, no less. For I mean, of course, bullshit in the the Frankfurtian sense: language designed to lull or impress or both, rather than to communicate information.
Let's have a bash at that one sentence. On a single word, "substantive": We can assume that what's talked about is substantive: if it weren't substantive, either we wouldn't talk about it, or we'd qualify by pointing out insignificance. And likewise for other verbiage in the sentence, resulting in:
To which one might respond "Well, yes, obviously", and want to scrap the sentence in any form.
Is there something that I misunderstand here? -- Hoary ( talk) 02:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
What version of English should we use on this article? -- Mr. Guye ( talk) 02:20, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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It seems that with Latvian membership is the same story as was few years ago with Chile, Israel and Estonia, while editors tried to add them as members before they actually became members. There are different steps before becoming a member. The country becomes a member only after deposition of its adherence document (ratification letter). Before that, the country is not a member. Please see also similar discussions about above-mentioned countries which are available in the archive. Beagel ( talk) 17:46, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
I am copying here from the 2010 discussion what are the steps of the accession process:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. It is very close to Latvia but still the final step should be completed. Beagel ( talk) 19:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Every OECD member turns out to belong, either to the Apec (the organization of countries bordering the Pacific Ocean), or to the Council of Europe (with only one OECD member as an exception). Furthermore, all four current candidates which are about to join the OECD soon, are Euro-pacific as well. Really, from a formal viewpoint - being a Euro-pacific country - has never been put as a condition for being an OECD member, but from a practical point of view - the facts are unambiguous. I wonder, if the OECD has something in its "genes", that makes it have such a salient "Pacifico-European" orientation. HOTmag ( talk) 18:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
HOTmag ( talk) 08:00, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
“ Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development” should redirect here. Hopefully, the title of this very article will be moved to said place; it would happen, if the Brits didn't insist on writing ‹organisation› instead of the more-fonetic ‹organization›, and the EU bureaucrats didn't insist on writing ‹-isation›.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 21:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved DrStrauss talk 17:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development →
OECD –
WP:COMMONNAME and
WP:ACRONYMTITLE ... "acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject". Cf.
OPEC,
NATO,
NASA,
FIFA, etc.
Ivar the Boneful (
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17:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Colombia and Lithuania signed the accession agreement but they are not members yet. To become a member a ratification of the accession agreement and a deposition of the ratification document is needed. It the same story as it was with accession of Israel or Latvia. Relevant discussions are available at the talk page archive. For the list of current members, please see the OECD website http://www.oecd.org/about/membersandpartners/. Beagel ( talk) 19:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Lithuania has today deposited its ratification document and therefore became a full member. Confirmed by the OECD itself. [22] Beagel ( talk) 17:44, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Costa Rica has been invited to become a member of the OECD, but it is not the member yet. Before becoming the member, it has to sign the accession agreement, to ratify it, and to deposit the ratification document. E.g., in the case of Colombia, it was invited to join on 25 May 2018, but it became the member only on 28 April 2020. Beagel ( talk) 22:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
The same is also mentioned in Category talk:OECD members, but I want to add Category:OECD members to United States, Mexico, Latvia, Turkey and Israel, but I cannot because the articles are protected. Can someone please add them? As for Slovenia, I added the category after my edits here. -- Hatto ( talk) 06:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
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Shouldn't this page be named Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development instead of the current spelling with Organization with a 'z'. Checking their website seems to suggest that the British spelling is the proper name for the OECD. -- Popsracer 10:40, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Could anyone shed some light on what the conditions for joining the OECD are? I assume the country must first be a representative democracy and support free market economics? What other factors are there?
The Organisation for European Economic Co-operation (OEEC) should not just be lumped here. It was important in its time for early European integration and should be separate. Non? gren 12:52, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
Why is French Guyana supposedly a part of the OECD on that map?? Asacarny 07:08, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Because French Guiana is, as the name hints, French. It is an overseas department, an integral part of the French Republic. Just as much as Alaska and Hawai'i are part of the US, or Northern Ireland is part of the UK. The whole of France (including French Guiana, French Polynesia and Reunion) is part of the OECD.
This (re-)write-up is rather glowing in its public relations styled descriptions of OECD activities. For example, it fails to mention that the OECD has served an active role in enforcing by coercion "taxation harmonization" so that all states worldwide share an approximately equal or greater level of taxation than the OECD deems "acceptable". The OECD also coerces nations into harmonizing their banking systems under the premise of "criminal money laundering", as opposed to people simply seeking tax-shelters -- which only those major world governments (as government organizations) oppose.
The OECD is hardly doing "all good". Read up on the back-catalog from Offshore Finance (still an external link, thankfully) for more information. See the writeup from before editing on September 12th 2005 by DGM for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.158.42.241 ( talk) 09:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Both statements are very inaccurate. Factually, the OECD doesn't have any way to coerce any country, member or not, to do whatever. However, this is a widespread opinion. I think the proper way to handle this is to create an OECD controversy page and take this off the main page. Jerjer 10:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
I challenge that. If Southern countries did implement OECD suggestions systematically, the world would be a much different place. I stand by my argument that the OECD has no power to influence the policies of a country. However there are regularly discussions that take place at the OECD between high-level officials which can have concrete consequences. For instance the "polluter pays" principle was edicted within the walls of the OECD. I am also well aware that many programmes in which the OECD is involved are not making everyone happy. This is why I advocate the creation of an OECD controversy page where criticism againt the OECD could be organized in a more structured form. Jerjer ( talk) 16:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
EVERYONE: Please take a look at Jerjer's profile. He/She works for the OECD! Please take his/her comments with a grain of salt since he/she has a direct stake here. Jerjer, please refrain from editing/commenting on this Wikipedia article. You have a conflict of interest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.182.225 ( talk) 16:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I think we should defer to the organization's own spelling of organisation - per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English -- undoubtedly in the spelling of the organization's name and preferably consistent throughout the article! Gary 13:59, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
According to the OECD's language policy, they use officially British English in their papers. So, organisation with "s" is correct (as also co-operation with "-").
The OECD has official language policy to use officialy British English. For this reaqson, the correct official name of this organization is Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. It's different with the OSCE as there is no official language policy (probably, I'm not sure as I'm not specialist on the OSCE). For this reason please don't move and rename the OECD page using "Cooperation". Beagel 16:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice to have a table for the political inclinations of the member states, as in Barroso Commission and Parties in the Council of the European Union. – Kaihsu 09:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I think it could be necessary to add the list of OECD different institutions. When it's not so difficult with list of directorates and departments (or institutions od OECD Secretariate), it will be more difficult with bodies consisting member and non-member countires (committees, working parties, working groups schemes, agencies etc), because the structure of bdifferent bodies is different and at the same time it's very complex. Maybe it could be better to have different page for each OECD body (there are already separate pages for the International Energy Agency, Nuclear Energy Agency and Development Centre)? There is also problem with listing members of different bodies, as every committe, working party etc has different set of members and observes. In case of some committees even not OECD all member countries are members of particular committee (e.g. Steel Committee). Moreover, there are plans for OECD reform, which will change overall structure of the OECD after 2008. Any suggestion how to deal with this? Beagel 13:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it will be more practical to divide these issues into separate sections? Also, somebody mentioned that the Republic of China (Taiwan) has observer status on two OECD committees. Actually the correct figure is 3 committees and some more bodies (totally 5). But the question is, where to list the observeships of non-members - under this section or under each committe? There are more than 50 non-members involved in different committees and working groups.
Also, referring to Taiwan, the OECD itself uses officially Chinese Taipei as a reference to this country. I think that we should respect the OECD's policy? Beagel 13:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
What's with the spelling "coöperation"? Rōnin 12:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Indeed ... if you go to www.oecd.org it is spelled "co-operation," which was the old name. The edit notes for the move indicate "reasons" but there are no reasons given on this page. Can User:Doremítzwr answer this question? Gary 12:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I took the liberty of creating a new page for the list of committees and subcommittees because, though very detailed and apparently accurate, it was unwieldy and created clutter, taking up most of the page space. Creationlaw 04:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Is Greenland part of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.217.254 ( talk) 13:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Whether the INDIAN firms are scaled over the TPP(Technological Product and Process)innovation by OECD
Incase no one noticed, I have added a map showing members and members with high income in seperate colours. -- Giorgos 13:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Why is French Guiana pictured on the maps of member states if it isn't a member state?
The Talking Sock talk contribs 16:33, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
All you people are uncivil, discourteous bastards to each other. A little more civility on these pages please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.88.170.168 ( talk) 18:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
OECD was accepted Chile's incorporation.
News of BBC LONDON says that.
Rubbish... I love the English.. ha ha ha.
can someone make a world map to show all the member countries? Jackzhp ( talk) 04:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
As wikipedia shows the "ideologies" for political parties, i think they could be shown too for this kind of "oriented" organization. Why not http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism ? In the upper right corner's box, like for the political parties. To me, that would be useful, as the goal of the OECD is not "stabilizing and harmonizing economies within europe", but the promotion of certain economical ideologies.
setting in which governments can compare policy experiences, seek answers to common problems, identify good practices, and co-ordinate domestic and international policies. The mandate of the OECD is broad, covering economic, environmental, and social issues. It is a forum where peer pressure can act as a powerful incentive to improve policy and implement "soft law" — non-binding instruments that can occasionally lead to binding treaties. Exchanges between OECD governments flow from information and analysis provided by a secretariat in Paris. The secretariat collects data, monitors trends, and analyses and forecasts economic developments. It also researches social changes or evolving patterns in trade, environment, agriculture, technology, taxation and other areas. The OECD is also known as a premium statistical agency, as it publishes highly-comparable statistics on a very wide number of subjects. Over the past several decades, the OECD has tackled a range of economic, social, and environmental issues while further deepening its engagement with business, trade unions and other representatives of civil society. Collaboration at the OECD regarding taxation, for example, have fostered the growth of a global web of bilateral tax treaties.
This has absolutely NO meaning. Could be replaced by "OECD does cool but hard-to-understand economical stuff". OECD, for example, advocates flexibility (deregulation) of the working contracts. Where is it written? Nowhere. OECD is not neutral, neither is EU, neither is the G8, etc.... They have goals, and they ask governments to do things in accordance with their ideas. But this article is only here to replace an empty page, and is absolutely not informative. Good work, wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.196.65.218 ( talk) 18:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The OECD has 30 members. Also the EC participates in the work of the OECD according to the OECD Charter. In addition, several OECD's committees have some participants who are not the OECD members, observers etc. Usually they are these five countries invited to join the OECD or other major economies (Brazil; China), but all together there are 25 observers or regular members in the committees and around 50 countries participating in some way in the work of the OECD. The Republic of China (Taivan) doesn't have any special status in the OECD. It is an observer in the Trade Committee and participates in some minor bodies, but that's all. This is also incorrect to say that Taivan is an observer in the OECD because the OECD as whole doesn't have observers—the committees have. Beagel ( talk) 05:56, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
What on earth is this supposed to mean?
In the 1950s the OEEC provided the framework for negotiations aimed at determining conditions for setting up a European Free Trade Area, to bring the Common Market of the Six and the other OEEC members together on a multilateral basis.-- Filll ( talk | wpc) 05:50, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
this entry is not ecyclopedic, it is not from a neutral point of view, and it "seems" to be written by an advocate or associate of the entry's topic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.51.68.58 ( talk) 23:03, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
To define, which countries are high income countries, the classification of the World Bank is used. According to this, only 27 OECD member countries are classified as high income economies. [1] Beagel ( talk) 18:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm a bit surprised that there is no mention in this section that this is a deliberate and concerted effort to expand OECD jurisdiction beyond its own member states. DOR (HK) ( talk) 08:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm from the United States and so this page might have been created in a different country, thereby leading to the question I have. In America, we spell Organization with a Z. If it's correct, then disregard my comment. Thanks
216.7.144.62 ( talk) 16:37, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
To clarify this, organization is spelled with a 'z' in British English (see the wikipedia page on -ize), but the OECD seems to have modelled the spelling of its name on the French -ise endings (its headquarters are in Paris). Marthiemoo ( talk) 16:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
This article mentions that OECD publishes 300 to 500 books per year, but in the article about OECDsource it mentions 250 books per year. I don't know which one is right, but I just noticed it. Bye, Lalena (can't login) 192.85.60.20 ( talk) 10:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Anom user IP 189.146.114.200 continues to remove the map showing OECD members, acceding countries and enhanced engagement countries, claiming that 'no such classification, they are not member nor in a list of accession'. However, both group of countries were named by the OECD Ministerial Council in 2007. [3] Therefore, I will restore the map. Before removing it, please discuss it here at the talk page. Beagel ( talk) 16:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
is indicated on the map as a member cuz it's a <ahem> department of france? Skakkle ( talk) 03:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
In December 2009 Chile formaly received the full invitation/admission for the OECD. All pending concerns had been cleared before. How is the status, is Chile already a plain member now? -- 81.210.217.100 ( talk) 18:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Although Chile is invited and has signed the accession agreement, it will become a member only after the ratification of the accession agreement by the National Congress and the deposition of the ratification instrument with the depositary Government (Government of France. Before that, Chile has to ratify the accession agreement. As of today, Chile is not a member yet although most likely it will become the member in coming months. Beagel ( talk) 05:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
As there will be also other accessions in the near future (4 countries are negotiating, of these, most likely three countries will join this year) just the clarification of the accession process:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. Beagel ( talk) 17:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
OECD also doesn't track the number of midgets or romantic comedies produced. This section is silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.160.5.251 ( talk) 16:14, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Should Chile be added to the map its just the news section on the front page says it joined... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.223.68 ( talk) 21:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
User:Alam82 added the 'Planned future membership' section which I removed for the following reasons:
Is the long section on "OECD institutions and bodies" really neccessary? Also, isn't "Organisation" spelled "Organization"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.246.172 ( talk) 03:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
This section gives almost no information about reform and enlargement. What are the criteria for membership? What are the issues?
Instead, for some reason, there is a long screed about Israeli membership in OECD. The views given are not attributed to anyone, and are evidently those of Palestinian "anti-normalization" activists. Is Israel the only country under consideration? Is the major criteria for membership treatment of the Hamas?
How does membership in OECD help the Israeli economy? What specifically does Israel or any other country gain and what is the danger to OECD if Israel or another country that doesn't meet criteria joins?
Why is Israel singled out?
The tirade against Israel takes up most of the section and does not explain much about issues related to reform, nor does it explain anything about what the criteria are and what criteria Israel does not meet if settlers are not included. It simply states that Israel doesn't meet some criteria if settlers are not included. It presents no issues other than allegations of Israel human rights violations that are certainly not as extensive as those of Turkey for example, against its Kurdish minority. No authorities or sources are cited. [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] ( talk) 11:56, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why the member countries are divided as high-income countries and middle-income countries. The OECD website does not have that kind of division between its members. This division was probably inserted to the article to illustrate the point that the OECD is a "club of rich countries", but this is definitely POV which should be removed. Any objection if I remove this division between high-income and middle-income members? Beagel ( talk) 05:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is there an asterisk next to Turkey? If there is a reason, then it should be linked to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotband ( talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Turkey's a part of a list, and the asterisk signifies that it (as well as a few other countries) are upper-middle economies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.192.105 ( talk) 19:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
As I understand it, the country is still not a member. When will the instruments of ratification get disposition ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.3.134 ( talk) 01:17, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The article lead desperately needs a brief summary of what this organisation does. As I don't understand what this organisation does, I can't fix it myself, but perhaps someone else does and therefore can? -- Dweller ( talk) 08:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
The introduction now only indicates that it is an int. economic organization; and only much further goals and successes are shown. Could someone with a good overview on the subject write 2-3 lines on what this organization does/achieves? I am not comortable doing it myself as it remains a bit vague to me, but it would be a strong improvement for me... L.tak ( talk) 08:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Why do you use that data? Would not the International Monetary Found be more proper to seek for those statistics? I can not even find the data in the web page of the link it is written there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nordenskjöld ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Membership process in the OECD has following steps:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. Therefore, it is not correct to add Estonia, Israel or Slovenia in the members' list before deposition of their ratification instrument. The OECD has at the moment 31 members, not 34. Beagel ( talk) 18:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Isn't Estonia a member since June 2010??
Pelmeen10 (
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13:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
There seems to be little indication of which indicators are displayed and which are not - so if those included are relatively arbitrary, I would suggest including a measure of equality such as the GINI coefficient would be helpful. Income equality is an important indicator for a country's standard of living, which is, according to the "Objectives and activities" section, a key aim of the OECD.
NZUlysses ( talk) 01:15, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Income inequality measure added.
NZUlysses (
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02:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Admitted later to OEEC (listed chronologically with year of admission):
Germany (1955)
Germany didn't exist in 1955, from the context I assume this was West Germany? -- 86.173.140.91 ( talk) 13:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Israel is a new officially member in the OECD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.94.160 ( talk) 14:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Isn't "Organisation" spelled "Organization"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.246.172 ( talk) 03:40, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
The OECD has 25 different observers or regular members in the committees and around 50 countries participating in some way in the work of the OECD. Therefore, why Hong Kong should be mentioned as observer if we don't name any other observer in the different committees. There is also no accession negotiations or enhanced cooperation. Therefore, I removed mentioning Hong Kong's observer status. Beagel ( talk) 19:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
The article says that Cyprus applied in 1995 but was blocked by Turkey. It is true that these two countries have rigid relations and they blame each other in every case. I also believe that Turkey would like to block Cyprus accession and have blocked in several OECD committees and programmes. However, from technical point of view it can't block the Cyprus accession in 1995 as after accession of four CEEC countries which was decided already in the beginning of 1990s, there was no further enlargement strategy and no countries were invited to join the OECD (again, technically country application is a political document which has no legal status as the OECD invites itself its members) until the results of the Noburus working group were presented. As the working group never proposed inviting Cyprus, there was nothing to block by Turkey. Of course, the working group was aware of the Turkey's position and it may (or may not) had influenced their decision but this is a pure speculation. Therefore I think that we should avoid spreading the conflict between two countries into this article and keep only solid facts which is that CYprus applied in 1995. Beagel ( talk) 08:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Visually impaired persons need to enlarge the screen. The box enlarges, and the main text shrinks to a thin column with just a couple of words on a line, then disappears completely below the box.
The problem can be addressed by making the box narrower.
Quite a bit of the indicators data has just been updated, without explanation, and without any changed references. If these are good faith edits, please update the references accordingly. It may be necessary to revert these changes otherwise. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld ( talk) 20:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
estonia and israel along with slovenia joined the oecd in 2010 so i´m guessing slovenia´s omission from the map is due to its small size making it easy to miss. i´d correct it but i have no idea how to... -- Lotsofmagnets ( talk) 20:17, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
the wrong map of russia
where is crimea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolltheblunt ( talk • contribs) 11:34, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Thinking that I should have a better idea of what the OECD is, I skimread the article. Or rather, I tried to. I quickly became sleepy and gave up. This was not because the OECD is an unglamorous subject. Rather -- well, let me illustrate by randomly plucked example:
This strikes me as having a peculiarly high bullshit ratio. No apologies for the vulgarism: it's one that has been supported by Princeton University Press, no less. For I mean, of course, bullshit in the the Frankfurtian sense: language designed to lull or impress or both, rather than to communicate information.
Let's have a bash at that one sentence. On a single word, "substantive": We can assume that what's talked about is substantive: if it weren't substantive, either we wouldn't talk about it, or we'd qualify by pointing out insignificance. And likewise for other verbiage in the sentence, resulting in:
To which one might respond "Well, yes, obviously", and want to scrap the sentence in any form.
Is there something that I misunderstand here? -- Hoary ( talk) 02:40, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
What version of English should we use on this article? -- Mr. Guye ( talk) 02:20, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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It seems that with Latvian membership is the same story as was few years ago with Chile, Israel and Estonia, while editors tried to add them as members before they actually became members. There are different steps before becoming a member. The country becomes a member only after deposition of its adherence document (ratification letter). Before that, the country is not a member. Please see also similar discussions about above-mentioned countries which are available in the archive. Beagel ( talk) 17:46, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
I am copying here from the 2010 discussion what are the steps of the accession process:
So, the country becomes a full member only after the deposition of the ratification instrument with the French Government. It is very close to Latvia but still the final step should be completed. Beagel ( talk) 19:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Every OECD member turns out to belong, either to the Apec (the organization of countries bordering the Pacific Ocean), or to the Council of Europe (with only one OECD member as an exception). Furthermore, all four current candidates which are about to join the OECD soon, are Euro-pacific as well. Really, from a formal viewpoint - being a Euro-pacific country - has never been put as a condition for being an OECD member, but from a practical point of view - the facts are unambiguous. I wonder, if the OECD has something in its "genes", that makes it have such a salient "Pacifico-European" orientation. HOTmag ( talk) 18:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
HOTmag ( talk) 08:00, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
“ Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development” should redirect here. Hopefully, the title of this very article will be moved to said place; it would happen, if the Brits didn't insist on writing ‹organisation› instead of the more-fonetic ‹organization›, and the EU bureaucrats didn't insist on writing ‹-isation›.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 21:45, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved DrStrauss talk 17:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development →
OECD –
WP:COMMONNAME and
WP:ACRONYMTITLE ... "acronyms should be used in a page name if the subject is known primarily by its abbreviation and that abbreviation is primarily associated with the subject". Cf.
OPEC,
NATO,
NASA,
FIFA, etc.
Ivar the Boneful (
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17:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Colombia and Lithuania signed the accession agreement but they are not members yet. To become a member a ratification of the accession agreement and a deposition of the ratification document is needed. It the same story as it was with accession of Israel or Latvia. Relevant discussions are available at the talk page archive. For the list of current members, please see the OECD website http://www.oecd.org/about/membersandpartners/. Beagel ( talk) 19:53, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Lithuania has today deposited its ratification document and therefore became a full member. Confirmed by the OECD itself. [22] Beagel ( talk) 17:44, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Costa Rica has been invited to become a member of the OECD, but it is not the member yet. Before becoming the member, it has to sign the accession agreement, to ratify it, and to deposit the ratification document. E.g., in the case of Colombia, it was invited to join on 25 May 2018, but it became the member only on 28 April 2020. Beagel ( talk) 22:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
The same is also mentioned in Category talk:OECD members, but I want to add Category:OECD members to United States, Mexico, Latvia, Turkey and Israel, but I cannot because the articles are protected. Can someone please add them? As for Slovenia, I added the category after my edits here. -- Hatto ( talk) 06:38, 13 May 2023 (UTC)