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Can this be added as a reference? https://cncmachines.com/what-is-a-cnc-machine — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.136.164.212 ( talk) 18:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, have you guys looked at http://www.cnczone.com Tons of people are making their own CNC machines using recycled technology. http://www.linuxcnc.org is an amazing open source Machine Control Program that lets you control almost anything. It kind of changes the social impact when thousands of people have access to this technology rather than it being only in the hands of people who have access to big gobs of money. I run my own business and use a CNC machine that I made. It only cost me less than two thousand dollars because I made it myself. Other people have made them for even less from all recycled parts and are using them to cottage manufacture things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.44.20.63 ( talk) 21:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
While the proliferation of small CNC as noted at www.cnczone.com is minor in terms of economic impact, the numbers of people involved is becoming significant. Furthermore, it probably deserves more attention within Wikipedia simply because the orientation and demographic of Wikipedia users matches well with small CNC. People who buy $400,000 6 axis mills do not research their investment at Wikipedia. Small scale CNC people do. Note I'm referring to this as small scale CNC, not DIY CNC. I feel strongly that the turnkey offerings of companies like Sherline and Tormach, while not homebuilt, do represent the same architecture (PC Controlled) and the same community of users. I plan on adding a bit on the evolution of this aspect of CNC. -- LifelongEngineer ( talk) 00:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the short comment at the end of section Today about DIY CNC, then added a section DIY, Hobby, and Personal CNC which details the evolution of small CNC. The original reference to EMC and open source has been moved into the new section. The reference to MyNC has been removed. The MyNC link seemed to be a project of a single individual and without much following or impact on the evolution of CNC. I have also removed the reference to www.cnczone.com. While CNCZone is important to the community of hobby and personal CNC, it's not a reasonable REF since it is a major site with dozens of forums and thousands of messages. If there were an overview article or some specific reference within CNCZone, that would be another matter, but in the context of the article it would be better as a link than a reference.-- LifelongEngineer ( talk) 02:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I just went through and depicted all of the refs and correlated them with the correct bibliographic entries, however this ref I couldn't correlate. If someone else knows what it is supposed to be I would appreciate their help. Thanks!
Wizard191 (
talk) 17:52, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I frankly do not inderstand what topics are being didcussed here.NC as an adjective? This is an exactly defined technical term, to me you're splitting hairs and avoiding questioning CNC versus DNC technology; meaning, to me, running programs on a machine from a separately connected computer which hosts editing software and sends only G/MS/T information,typically in a serial port connection. Related, there is no mention of how most CNC machinery typically includes machine-specific SOFTWARE ROUTINES AS NECESSARY TO DEAL WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, tool changes, tool offsets,and the 'BACKLASH' mentioned. Sorry for the inadvertant capslock.. One major issue not mentioned is the use of box ways versus linear guides. Machinists and shop owners appear to have attitudes, preconceptions, and ego involved, and it's a favorite subject for some salespeople to bring up. The backlash assumption applies to machines using traditional acme-threaded leadscrews, something which may may not apply to newer ballscrew machines. And there's no discussion of how, particularyin cnc lathes, manufacturers also supply options for non 'cut time' operations such as feeding or measuring operations. These can very significantly affect throughput and geometric accuracy. Then, the final missing issue is probing. And a quite seriously presumputous note about x86 basedindustrial computers; The sl20 shown has a 16/32 bit motorola processor, zero wait state memory and a history of damage not from electromagnetic fields, but fork trucks and lightning Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).touching connected RS 232 wires. I'm not trying to be negative here but to provide critical reasoning, sorry my tone comes over this way.
Tonedeaf1 (
talk)
13:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
[1]
References
It was discussed on this talk page a while back (see Talk:Numerical control/Archive 1#Recent cleanup was well-founded (drat!) but article development continues). Recently I was motivated to coalesce some info at the article " automation" that addresses the larger context (automation in general, not just NC/CNC). So I'll find a sensible way to point from this article to that discussion for readers who want more info on the topic. — ¾-10 02:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Is this form (computer numerical controlled) correct? It sounds awkward to me. Shouldn't the original form (computer numerical control) be kept? "Computer numerical control" is a noun (not just a noun, but can be considered as one complex noun), but, when turning it into an adjective, shouldn't it become "computer numerically controlled" if one REALLY wants to use an adjective? The unaltered form (computer numerical control) sounds better to me. Am I wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.122.248.141 ( talk) 15:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
"Enter MIT This was not an impossible problem to solve, but would require some sort of feedback system, like a selsyn, to directly measure how far the controls had actually turned. Faced with the daunting task of building such a system, "
There is no way things like this would be accepted in a acceptable encyclopedia. This article needs a MAJOR rewrite.
-- 69.123.205.100 ( talk) 17:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I recently redirected the numerics into this article, since all of its content was about numerical control and it didn't clarify in its lede how it could be a different subject. In the stub, though, there was a paragraph that seemed from a cursory glance to be worthy of including here. I'm just not sure where it would go.
The PCs that are used in industrial automation are usually an industrialized version of the x86 family of computers. The main difference between consumer electronics and industrial electronics is that the industrial electronics can tolerate sub-zero temperatures and is designed to withstand dusty and electromagnetically noisy environment. For example, metallic dust can short-circuit electric circuits, which in turn can literally destroy the electrical circuits. Industrial electronics is designed to keep the dust out of the chassis. The electrical noise, which is mostly generated by electrical motors, is dealt with by using optical cables instead of electrical ones or the electrical data communication (see: bus (computing)) cabling is well shielded ( electromagnetic shielding, Faraday Cage).
It's not cited, though, so we could always just not include any of it. — Ƶ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 18:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
As was old. The content:
I recently added a manufacturer list to the NC page. This list is valuable to the page because it gives readers a good example of what companies produce what types of NC machines. The list adds reference to major companies and how their machines differ from other manufacturers machinery. This inclusion is important to the page for readers to compare companies machines and their technology. The addition of new references gives a base to the new content and the overall article. BrandonL21 ( talk) 00:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
The article defines CNC as "[...] the automated control of machining tools [...] by means of a computer", but it also lists 3D printers as an example of a CNC machine. Machining refers to subtractive manufacturing, while 3D printers use additive manufacturing. Should the definition of CNC as exclusively referring to subtractive manufacturing be revised, or should 3D printers be excluded? If 3D printers are to be included, what else counts as a CNC machine? Are inkjet printers CNC machines? -- AwaweWiki ( talk) 16:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
I created a section labeled basics in creating G&M codes. I basically made a little section about how you can start out making a G&M code if you're just learning how to do it. I talked about a few G&M codes that preform basic functions and I also added some tips. Shawnbyfield04 ( talk) 22:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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Can this be added as a reference? https://cncmachines.com/what-is-a-cnc-machine — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.136.164.212 ( talk) 18:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, have you guys looked at http://www.cnczone.com Tons of people are making their own CNC machines using recycled technology. http://www.linuxcnc.org is an amazing open source Machine Control Program that lets you control almost anything. It kind of changes the social impact when thousands of people have access to this technology rather than it being only in the hands of people who have access to big gobs of money. I run my own business and use a CNC machine that I made. It only cost me less than two thousand dollars because I made it myself. Other people have made them for even less from all recycled parts and are using them to cottage manufacture things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.44.20.63 ( talk) 21:55, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
While the proliferation of small CNC as noted at www.cnczone.com is minor in terms of economic impact, the numbers of people involved is becoming significant. Furthermore, it probably deserves more attention within Wikipedia simply because the orientation and demographic of Wikipedia users matches well with small CNC. People who buy $400,000 6 axis mills do not research their investment at Wikipedia. Small scale CNC people do. Note I'm referring to this as small scale CNC, not DIY CNC. I feel strongly that the turnkey offerings of companies like Sherline and Tormach, while not homebuilt, do represent the same architecture (PC Controlled) and the same community of users. I plan on adding a bit on the evolution of this aspect of CNC. -- LifelongEngineer ( talk) 00:16, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the short comment at the end of section Today about DIY CNC, then added a section DIY, Hobby, and Personal CNC which details the evolution of small CNC. The original reference to EMC and open source has been moved into the new section. The reference to MyNC has been removed. The MyNC link seemed to be a project of a single individual and without much following or impact on the evolution of CNC. I have also removed the reference to www.cnczone.com. While CNCZone is important to the community of hobby and personal CNC, it's not a reasonable REF since it is a major site with dozens of forums and thousands of messages. If there were an overview article or some specific reference within CNCZone, that would be another matter, but in the context of the article it would be better as a link than a reference.-- LifelongEngineer ( talk) 02:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
I just went through and depicted all of the refs and correlated them with the correct bibliographic entries, however this ref I couldn't correlate. If someone else knows what it is supposed to be I would appreciate their help. Thanks!
Wizard191 (
talk) 17:52, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I frankly do not inderstand what topics are being didcussed here.NC as an adjective? This is an exactly defined technical term, to me you're splitting hairs and avoiding questioning CNC versus DNC technology; meaning, to me, running programs on a machine from a separately connected computer which hosts editing software and sends only G/MS/T information,typically in a serial port connection. Related, there is no mention of how most CNC machinery typically includes machine-specific SOFTWARE ROUTINES AS NECESSARY TO DEAL WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, tool changes, tool offsets,and the 'BACKLASH' mentioned. Sorry for the inadvertant capslock.. One major issue not mentioned is the use of box ways versus linear guides. Machinists and shop owners appear to have attitudes, preconceptions, and ego involved, and it's a favorite subject for some salespeople to bring up. The backlash assumption applies to machines using traditional acme-threaded leadscrews, something which may may not apply to newer ballscrew machines. And there's no discussion of how, particularyin cnc lathes, manufacturers also supply options for non 'cut time' operations such as feeding or measuring operations. These can very significantly affect throughput and geometric accuracy. Then, the final missing issue is probing. And a quite seriously presumputous note about x86 basedindustrial computers; The sl20 shown has a 16/32 bit motorola processor, zero wait state memory and a history of damage not from electromagnetic fields, but fork trucks and lightning Cite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the
help page).touching connected RS 232 wires. I'm not trying to be negative here but to provide critical reasoning, sorry my tone comes over this way.
Tonedeaf1 (
talk)
13:58, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
[1]
References
It was discussed on this talk page a while back (see Talk:Numerical control/Archive 1#Recent cleanup was well-founded (drat!) but article development continues). Recently I was motivated to coalesce some info at the article " automation" that addresses the larger context (automation in general, not just NC/CNC). So I'll find a sensible way to point from this article to that discussion for readers who want more info on the topic. — ¾-10 02:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Is this form (computer numerical controlled) correct? It sounds awkward to me. Shouldn't the original form (computer numerical control) be kept? "Computer numerical control" is a noun (not just a noun, but can be considered as one complex noun), but, when turning it into an adjective, shouldn't it become "computer numerically controlled" if one REALLY wants to use an adjective? The unaltered form (computer numerical control) sounds better to me. Am I wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.122.248.141 ( talk) 15:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
"Enter MIT This was not an impossible problem to solve, but would require some sort of feedback system, like a selsyn, to directly measure how far the controls had actually turned. Faced with the daunting task of building such a system, "
There is no way things like this would be accepted in a acceptable encyclopedia. This article needs a MAJOR rewrite.
-- 69.123.205.100 ( talk) 17:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I recently redirected the numerics into this article, since all of its content was about numerical control and it didn't clarify in its lede how it could be a different subject. In the stub, though, there was a paragraph that seemed from a cursory glance to be worthy of including here. I'm just not sure where it would go.
The PCs that are used in industrial automation are usually an industrialized version of the x86 family of computers. The main difference between consumer electronics and industrial electronics is that the industrial electronics can tolerate sub-zero temperatures and is designed to withstand dusty and electromagnetically noisy environment. For example, metallic dust can short-circuit electric circuits, which in turn can literally destroy the electrical circuits. Industrial electronics is designed to keep the dust out of the chassis. The electrical noise, which is mostly generated by electrical motors, is dealt with by using optical cables instead of electrical ones or the electrical data communication (see: bus (computing)) cabling is well shielded ( electromagnetic shielding, Faraday Cage).
It's not cited, though, so we could always just not include any of it. — Ƶ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 18:42, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
As was old. The content:
I recently added a manufacturer list to the NC page. This list is valuable to the page because it gives readers a good example of what companies produce what types of NC machines. The list adds reference to major companies and how their machines differ from other manufacturers machinery. This inclusion is important to the page for readers to compare companies machines and their technology. The addition of new references gives a base to the new content and the overall article. BrandonL21 ( talk) 00:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
The article defines CNC as "[...] the automated control of machining tools [...] by means of a computer", but it also lists 3D printers as an example of a CNC machine. Machining refers to subtractive manufacturing, while 3D printers use additive manufacturing. Should the definition of CNC as exclusively referring to subtractive manufacturing be revised, or should 3D printers be excluded? If 3D printers are to be included, what else counts as a CNC machine? Are inkjet printers CNC machines? -- AwaweWiki ( talk) 16:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
I created a section labeled basics in creating G&M codes. I basically made a little section about how you can start out making a G&M code if you're just learning how to do it. I talked about a few G&M codes that preform basic functions and I also added some tips. Shawnbyfield04 ( talk) 22:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)