Understood, but I don't think that it's actually relevant to the album. It's important for her article. but not this album since there's no linkage between her new contract,label or management and the album.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
number-one songs she had since attained attained reads oddly, perhaps recorded or some such?
No, because you don't record number-one songs. No one knows what will end up being a number-one during the production stage. She has attained number-ones. —
Calvin99914:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
True enough, but every number 1 is recorded. And since all of these songs had already reached number one, your point is irrelevant. Attained just reads wrong to me.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Calvin999 When an experienced reviewer like
Sturmvogel 66 tells you something doesn't sound right, you ought to pay attention and give some thought to it. The problem here is that the verb attain is being used incorrectly. It's really the songs that attained number one status, not Mariah Carey. She didn't attain number one status – the songs did. So you've either got to choose a different verb or reword the sentence. How about this? "...featuring the number-one songs she had since released"?
Corinne (
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22:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)reply
North American track listing of Why track listing instead of album, edition, or version?
Because there are three different track listings. They aren't different albums, they aren't editions because they isn't extra, added or bonus content, and version implies that it is in some way different aside from a few songs being changed. —
Calvin99914:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe this term is common in the industry, but it reads oddly to me as I don't associate track listing with a specific version of an album. Considering that an album is essentially just a group of songs, changing a few of them seems a fairly significant thing and something different. Howzabout pressing?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Aside from "Infinity" being included on the set-list of her residency,[23] Carey returned to the Billboard Music Awards on May 17, 2015, for her first performance at the ceremony in seventeen years This doesn't make sense to me.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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14:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Mainly because you have not shown how Aside from "Infinity" being included on the set-list of her residency is relevant to the rest of the sentence.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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18:03, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Sparing the talk page of Snuggums, I'm taking my comments here:
The first paragraph under the background section is completely "detached" from this article. Until there's a way to "connect" it to the compilation's creation, it's irrelevant. --
Efe (
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14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I think what's apparently missing here is why Mariah is able to release her old tracks -- and that's because she's again under the umbrella of Columbia. --
Efe (
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14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
The organization of facts is haphazard. Was the release of the compilation a consequence of her residency? Or was her residency just part of the promotional activity? --
Efe (
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14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
There are issues in the prose that can be easily located such as in this sentence: "It became her twentieth entry on the chart since her self-titled eponymous album debuted at number 80 nearly 25 years prior on June 30, 1990, which later became her first of 6 overall number-one albums in 1991."
Twentieth as opposed 20th? Please be consistent. --
Efe (
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"nearly 25 years prior on June 30, 1990" this is just too much information, rather redundant. Why not just state the exact date? --
Efe (
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14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
"It also peaked at number 2" remember that in the prior sentence, two albums are mentioned, therefore "it" might be confusing. --
Efe (
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14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
There are far more issues. The decision is with the first reviewer, so up to you Calvin if you'd want to consider my comments. Ciao! --
Efe (
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Thanks —
Calvin99915:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I don't need to tell them that there are more shows next year when we don't know if the content will stay the same (and from what Carey has said, it won't). It has no bearing. The residency could go on for years. —
Calvin99919:10, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Couple of issues with this: It became her twentieth entry on the chart since her eponymous album debuted at number 80 twenty-five years prior on June 30, 1990, which later became her first of 6 overall number-one albums in 1991. I'd split the sentence in half, this is a very busy sentence. Giving the exact date for her fist album is excessive info; the year suffices. And spell out six as per MOS. And why use "overall"?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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02:31, 24 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Warning: Number 1 to Infinity is calling Template:Cite web with more than one value for the "accessdate" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. Got this warning when I went to edit the article. You need to fix it, although it doesn't affect this nom since it's not visible to a casual reader.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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18:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
One of your many cite web templates has accessdate in it twice. So you need to go and manually check them all. Are you OK with my rewording of your sentences?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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19:15, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Understood, but I don't think that it's actually relevant to the album. It's important for her article. but not this album since there's no linkage between her new contract,label or management and the album.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
number-one songs she had since attained attained reads oddly, perhaps recorded or some such?
No, because you don't record number-one songs. No one knows what will end up being a number-one during the production stage. She has attained number-ones. —
Calvin99914:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
True enough, but every number 1 is recorded. And since all of these songs had already reached number one, your point is irrelevant. Attained just reads wrong to me.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Calvin999 When an experienced reviewer like
Sturmvogel 66 tells you something doesn't sound right, you ought to pay attention and give some thought to it. The problem here is that the verb attain is being used incorrectly. It's really the songs that attained number one status, not Mariah Carey. She didn't attain number one status – the songs did. So you've either got to choose a different verb or reword the sentence. How about this? "...featuring the number-one songs she had since released"?
Corinne (
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22:03, 17 September 2015 (UTC)reply
North American track listing of Why track listing instead of album, edition, or version?
Because there are three different track listings. They aren't different albums, they aren't editions because they isn't extra, added or bonus content, and version implies that it is in some way different aside from a few songs being changed. —
Calvin99914:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Maybe this term is common in the industry, but it reads oddly to me as I don't associate track listing with a specific version of an album. Considering that an album is essentially just a group of songs, changing a few of them seems a fairly significant thing and something different. Howzabout pressing?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Aside from "Infinity" being included on the set-list of her residency,[23] Carey returned to the Billboard Music Awards on May 17, 2015, for her first performance at the ceremony in seventeen years This doesn't make sense to me.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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14:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Mainly because you have not shown how Aside from "Infinity" being included on the set-list of her residency is relevant to the rest of the sentence.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
18:03, 15 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Sparing the talk page of Snuggums, I'm taking my comments here:
The first paragraph under the background section is completely "detached" from this article. Until there's a way to "connect" it to the compilation's creation, it's irrelevant. --
Efe (
talk)
14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I think what's apparently missing here is why Mariah is able to release her old tracks -- and that's because she's again under the umbrella of Columbia. --
Efe (
talk)
14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
The organization of facts is haphazard. Was the release of the compilation a consequence of her residency? Or was her residency just part of the promotional activity? --
Efe (
talk)
14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
There are issues in the prose that can be easily located such as in this sentence: "It became her twentieth entry on the chart since her self-titled eponymous album debuted at number 80 nearly 25 years prior on June 30, 1990, which later became her first of 6 overall number-one albums in 1991."
Twentieth as opposed 20th? Please be consistent. --
Efe (
talk)
"nearly 25 years prior on June 30, 1990" this is just too much information, rather redundant. Why not just state the exact date? --
Efe (
talk)
14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
"It also peaked at number 2" remember that in the prior sentence, two albums are mentioned, therefore "it" might be confusing. --
Efe (
talk)
14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
There are far more issues. The decision is with the first reviewer, so up to you Calvin if you'd want to consider my comments. Ciao! --
Efe (
talk) 14:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks —
Calvin99915:16, 16 September 2015 (UTC)reply
I don't need to tell them that there are more shows next year when we don't know if the content will stay the same (and from what Carey has said, it won't). It has no bearing. The residency could go on for years. —
Calvin99919:10, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Couple of issues with this: It became her twentieth entry on the chart since her eponymous album debuted at number 80 twenty-five years prior on June 30, 1990, which later became her first of 6 overall number-one albums in 1991. I'd split the sentence in half, this is a very busy sentence. Giving the exact date for her fist album is excessive info; the year suffices. And spell out six as per MOS. And why use "overall"?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
02:31, 24 September 2015 (UTC)reply
Warning: Number 1 to Infinity is calling Template:Cite web with more than one value for the "accessdate" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. Got this warning when I went to edit the article. You need to fix it, although it doesn't affect this nom since it's not visible to a casual reader.--
Sturmvogel 66 (
talk)
18:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply
One of your many cite web templates has accessdate in it twice. So you need to go and manually check them all. Are you OK with my rewording of your sentences?--
Sturmvogel 66 (
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19:15, 26 September 2015 (UTC)reply