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![]() | On 16 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Nuclear threats during the Russian invasion of Ukraine to Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Russian nuclear threats are increasingly seen as a hollow threat similar to China's final warnings. The volume of threats is accumulating to CFW levels but CFWs occurred over many years. Approaching sufficient cultural relevance or too soon to add section linking China's Final Warning? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.98.222.83 ( talk) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Jr8825 • Talk 11:56, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
https://apnews.com/article/russia-belarus-nuclear-weapons-2d9584534da25c00c56dbf7b14694e0e
Here is an ongoing allegation under investigation by Ukraine and NATO. This is one where Putin Administration agreed to have a deal Russia and Belarus. Note the articles fear escalations in the ongoing Russian attacks in Ukraine. 2601:640:C682:8870:8BCF:AA77:4645:9A52 ( talk) 16:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. As argued in the discussion, there has only been threats of nuclear weapon usage, which matches the current title. No actual nuclear weapons have been detonated in this conflict, as of this closing. If a nuclear weapon was to be used in this conflict, we might be able to start a new requested move. ( non-admin closure) Wikiexplorationandhelping ( talk) 14:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Nuclear threats during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine → Nuclear warfare and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine – This is a more professional-sounding title. And the article should cover analysis and debate by experts on the possibility of russians using nuclear bombs, not only the threats they've done. Super Ψ Dro 13:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
This article, as well as the corresponding section in the main article, give undue weight to the POV of those analysts and reporters who take Russian saber-rattling at face value. Assessments to the contrary, or tending to the contrary, by observers and analysts such as the US DoD, or the ISW, are barely mentioned.
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 07:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
The twitter account @cuthbert_shaw keeps up a list of references to specific Russian nuclear threats, going back to 1999, the large majority since the invasions of Ukraine. — Michael Z. 22:34, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. It's been 7 days since this was relisted and no oppose seems to come forth ( closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans ( talk) 09:07, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Nuclear threats during the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine – The article should cover the actual prospects of nuclear war brought about by the war in Ukraine, which countless sources have discussed. There’s no reason we should only cover the threats. Risk of nuclear war during the Russian invasion of Ukraine could be another phrasing with a slightly different scope, depending on whether we want to include the Zaporizhzhia NPP crisis or not. HappyWith ( talk) 04:21, 16 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 09:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
The term “baselessly” (in the 6th paragraph down from the subtitle “2022”) is a form of editorializing, which is not justified by evidence, and should be removed. Putin’s interpretation of “threatening” activity by NATO may seem well founded, if more was said about his POV. There may be words or circumstances that he had in mind, which are not stated in this article. DrWJK ( talk) 22:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 16 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Nuclear threats during the Russian invasion of Ukraine to Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Russian nuclear threats are increasingly seen as a hollow threat similar to China's final warnings. The volume of threats is accumulating to CFW levels but CFWs occurred over many years. Approaching sufficient cultural relevance or too soon to add section linking China's Final Warning? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.98.222.83 ( talk) 15:51, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
Jr8825 • Talk 11:56, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
https://apnews.com/article/russia-belarus-nuclear-weapons-2d9584534da25c00c56dbf7b14694e0e
Here is an ongoing allegation under investigation by Ukraine and NATO. This is one where Putin Administration agreed to have a deal Russia and Belarus. Note the articles fear escalations in the ongoing Russian attacks in Ukraine. 2601:640:C682:8870:8BCF:AA77:4645:9A52 ( talk) 16:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. As argued in the discussion, there has only been threats of nuclear weapon usage, which matches the current title. No actual nuclear weapons have been detonated in this conflict, as of this closing. If a nuclear weapon was to be used in this conflict, we might be able to start a new requested move. ( non-admin closure) Wikiexplorationandhelping ( talk) 14:53, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Nuclear threats during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine → Nuclear warfare and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine – This is a more professional-sounding title. And the article should cover analysis and debate by experts on the possibility of russians using nuclear bombs, not only the threats they've done. Super Ψ Dro 13:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
This article, as well as the corresponding section in the main article, give undue weight to the POV of those analysts and reporters who take Russian saber-rattling at face value. Assessments to the contrary, or tending to the contrary, by observers and analysts such as the US DoD, or the ISW, are barely mentioned.
RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 07:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
The twitter account @cuthbert_shaw keeps up a list of references to specific Russian nuclear threats, going back to 1999, the large majority since the invasions of Ukraine. — Michael Z. 22:34, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. It's been 7 days since this was relisted and no oppose seems to come forth ( closed by non-admin page mover) Reading Beans ( talk) 09:07, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Nuclear threats during the Russian invasion of Ukraine → Nuclear risk during the Russian invasion of Ukraine – The article should cover the actual prospects of nuclear war brought about by the war in Ukraine, which countless sources have discussed. There’s no reason we should only cover the threats. Risk of nuclear war during the Russian invasion of Ukraine could be another phrasing with a slightly different scope, depending on whether we want to include the Zaporizhzhia NPP crisis or not. HappyWith ( talk) 04:21, 16 October 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. Polyamorph ( talk) 09:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
The term “baselessly” (in the 6th paragraph down from the subtitle “2022”) is a form of editorializing, which is not justified by evidence, and should be removed. Putin’s interpretation of “threatening” activity by NATO may seem well founded, if more was said about his POV. There may be words or circumstances that he had in mind, which are not stated in this article. DrWJK ( talk) 22:20, 7 March 2024 (UTC)