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I am a physicist who works on nuclear pasta sims and I think this article would be greatly improved by the addition of a little bit of detail. It's a very active field right now and it's a shame that this article is really undeveloped. I see that this page was proposed for deletion because someone was afraid nuclear pasta isn't notable. There are approximately 100 papers in the literature that directly pertain to nuclear pasta - the arxiv contains many of them as well as proceedings from various conferences.
Nuclear pasta is relevant to more than the extreme limits of applicability of theoretical nuclear physics- it's not just something dopey on paper, we actually think it exists in the crusts of neutron stars, and it's predicted to have a major effect on the the decay of magnetic fields of pulsars, and in the production of gravitational waves.
How can I help? I've never contributed to Wikipedia before, but I'm very familiar with the scientific literature on nuclear pasta and I'd contribute if knew how. Are there any more experienced contributors that would be willing to help me flesh out an article in more detail and edit my writing to get it up to par with Wikipedia's standards? First question: are there templates for scientific articles or articles about active research?
Sudoiusudo ( talk) 00:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
This article says the radius is 12 kilometers; the article Neutron star says 10. This article says the mass is 1.4 solar masses; the article Neutron star says 2. While there's a range, it seems odd that the heavier neutron stars would be smaller. Can we get something consistent between articles? John Baez ( talk) 04:55, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
There's recent article [1] describing the elasticity and strength of nuclear pasta, stating that "Our results show that nuclear pasta may be the strongest known material, perhaps with a shear modulus of 10^30 ergs/cm^3 and breaking strain greater than 0.1." I think that deserves mention in the article. Pulu ( talk) 15:43, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The Phases section describes nuclear pasta under greater pressures as being ever bigger sorta-nuclei surrounded by ever smaller proportions of neutron liquid. But then at the core, under greater pressure still, it suddenly goes the other way and says that the matter there is all neutron liquid. Is there actually a proportion inversion, or are the pasta holes not actually full of neutron liquid, or what? And what is "neutron liquid" in the first place? 2601:1C0:8601:C0F0:E1CD:5222:14E5:C2D8 ( talk) 05:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Fair point, Mr.Q. (Please sign up and sign in sometime.) It would make more logical sense to me if the voids were filled with electron-degeneracy plasma (white dwarf matter, also a crustal layer outside this one) instead of "neutron liquid", which I think is a corrected concept of the legendary 'neutronium'. jimswen ( talk) 03:11, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Or, if the voids are indeed neutron superfluid, the sequence from gnocci to Swiss cheess should be inverted. I also don't know where, relative to the sequence, occurs the pressure that forces p+e->n, the formation of the neutron liquid. jimswen ( talk) 03:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello all. I just wanted to point out that the link in reference #3 isn't working. I get the following error from my webbrowser (Firefox): SSL_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED_VERSION. Maybe the link could be updated or replaced. Thank you.-- 2A02:908:F765:F320:943B:A39D:6AD7:9887 ( talk) 11:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
This page was proposed for deletion by an editor in the past. |
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I am a physicist who works on nuclear pasta sims and I think this article would be greatly improved by the addition of a little bit of detail. It's a very active field right now and it's a shame that this article is really undeveloped. I see that this page was proposed for deletion because someone was afraid nuclear pasta isn't notable. There are approximately 100 papers in the literature that directly pertain to nuclear pasta - the arxiv contains many of them as well as proceedings from various conferences.
Nuclear pasta is relevant to more than the extreme limits of applicability of theoretical nuclear physics- it's not just something dopey on paper, we actually think it exists in the crusts of neutron stars, and it's predicted to have a major effect on the the decay of magnetic fields of pulsars, and in the production of gravitational waves.
How can I help? I've never contributed to Wikipedia before, but I'm very familiar with the scientific literature on nuclear pasta and I'd contribute if knew how. Are there any more experienced contributors that would be willing to help me flesh out an article in more detail and edit my writing to get it up to par with Wikipedia's standards? First question: are there templates for scientific articles or articles about active research?
Sudoiusudo ( talk) 00:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
This article says the radius is 12 kilometers; the article Neutron star says 10. This article says the mass is 1.4 solar masses; the article Neutron star says 2. While there's a range, it seems odd that the heavier neutron stars would be smaller. Can we get something consistent between articles? John Baez ( talk) 04:55, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
There's recent article [1] describing the elasticity and strength of nuclear pasta, stating that "Our results show that nuclear pasta may be the strongest known material, perhaps with a shear modulus of 10^30 ergs/cm^3 and breaking strain greater than 0.1." I think that deserves mention in the article. Pulu ( talk) 15:43, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
The Phases section describes nuclear pasta under greater pressures as being ever bigger sorta-nuclei surrounded by ever smaller proportions of neutron liquid. But then at the core, under greater pressure still, it suddenly goes the other way and says that the matter there is all neutron liquid. Is there actually a proportion inversion, or are the pasta holes not actually full of neutron liquid, or what? And what is "neutron liquid" in the first place? 2601:1C0:8601:C0F0:E1CD:5222:14E5:C2D8 ( talk) 05:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Fair point, Mr.Q. (Please sign up and sign in sometime.) It would make more logical sense to me if the voids were filled with electron-degeneracy plasma (white dwarf matter, also a crustal layer outside this one) instead of "neutron liquid", which I think is a corrected concept of the legendary 'neutronium'. jimswen ( talk) 03:11, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Or, if the voids are indeed neutron superfluid, the sequence from gnocci to Swiss cheess should be inverted. I also don't know where, relative to the sequence, occurs the pressure that forces p+e->n, the formation of the neutron liquid. jimswen ( talk) 03:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello all. I just wanted to point out that the link in reference #3 isn't working. I get the following error from my webbrowser (Firefox): SSL_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED_VERSION. Maybe the link could be updated or replaced. Thank you.-- 2A02:908:F765:F320:943B:A39D:6AD7:9887 ( talk) 11:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)