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With the groundwork laid for the article, bring any suggestions and/or updates here, to the talk page, when deemed necessary. KirkCliff2 ( talk) 21:29, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
The following is copied from Talk:November 2014 North American cold wave#Severity:
The "worst" [on record in the U.S.] aspect [of the storm] mentioned [in the media] is the most snowfall recorded in a 24-hour period. News outlets have been reporting that areas in the storm were approaching 76 inches, the record, during the event (example: see Reuters) and that many observers have not yet given a final total because of the extreme conditions so the goal might have already been matched or exceeded. If that's the case after the final numbers are provided, the outlets will likely start reporting on it soon, and then sources can be culled. Mapsax ( talk) 14:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Mapsax ( talk) 13:55, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Local and national media outlets are starting to adopt this name (do a news search). Not sure if it's universal or official enough to join "Knife" in the article. I just created the redirect in any case. Mapsax ( talk) 15:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I move the page name to "Knife (2014 WNY Lake effect storm)"Â ? This name would seem more appropriate. It would also be of value to add a table with individual town snow fall totals. This is something I intend to do in the coming days. Fortunate4now ( talk) 02:32, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
This article was moved to a name including the term "blizzard". This is wrong. This storm was not a blizzard, nor can I find any official sources that designate it as such. The term blizzard has a technical definition which has little to do with how much snow there was, and more to do with how much wind combined with snow there was. This storm did not meet that technical definition. The article needs to be moved back to its original name. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:42, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Can someone please add the RSI intensity rating for this system? Thanks! (By the way, we need a lot more information in this article than we currently have.) LightandDark2000 ( talk) 03:28, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
The wind gusts that were listed are incorrect. Those winds occurred on November 11, and were associated with a high pressure system and front not at all connected with or associated with the low that produced the winter storm. The source currently used as a reference says, "Damaging Winds Before the Winter Storm", and, "The winds are the result of the same winterlike air mass that has plunged all the way south to the Gulf Coast and eastward into the Ohio Valley behind a powerful cold front. A powerhouse high-pressure zone over western Canada and the northern U.S. is also trying to literally push this frigid but shallow air through gaps in the Rocky Mountains and from there into the Northwest, where it faces a second obstacle in the form of the Cascade Range. The high, whose central pressure was 1051 millibars (31.03 inches of mercury) over Canada's Northwest Territories Tuesday afternoon, has proven plenty strong enough to do just that. Winds began howling before sunrise Tuesday in the Columbia River Gorge just east of Portland, Oregon -- the most prominent gap in the Cascades, cutting a 4,000-foot-deep valley through the mountains." The area of low pressure that spawned the winter storm that is the subject of this article did not even make it close to the coast of the Pacific until November 13 and did not make it on shore until November 14. I have again removed the 88 mph figure; only wind gusts that are actually associated with the storm should be added. Inks.LWC ( talk) 21:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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With the groundwork laid for the article, bring any suggestions and/or updates here, to the talk page, when deemed necessary. KirkCliff2 ( talk) 21:29, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
The following is copied from Talk:November 2014 North American cold wave#Severity:
The "worst" [on record in the U.S.] aspect [of the storm] mentioned [in the media] is the most snowfall recorded in a 24-hour period. News outlets have been reporting that areas in the storm were approaching 76 inches, the record, during the event (example: see Reuters) and that many observers have not yet given a final total because of the extreme conditions so the goal might have already been matched or exceeded. If that's the case after the final numbers are provided, the outlets will likely start reporting on it soon, and then sources can be culled. Mapsax ( talk) 14:04, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Mapsax ( talk) 13:55, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Local and national media outlets are starting to adopt this name (do a news search). Not sure if it's universal or official enough to join "Knife" in the article. I just created the redirect in any case. Mapsax ( talk) 15:00, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Would anyone mind if I move the page name to "Knife (2014 WNY Lake effect storm)"Â ? This name would seem more appropriate. It would also be of value to add a table with individual town snow fall totals. This is something I intend to do in the coming days. Fortunate4now ( talk) 02:32, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
This article was moved to a name including the term "blizzard". This is wrong. This storm was not a blizzard, nor can I find any official sources that designate it as such. The term blizzard has a technical definition which has little to do with how much snow there was, and more to do with how much wind combined with snow there was. This storm did not meet that technical definition. The article needs to be moved back to its original name. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 00:42, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Can someone please add the RSI intensity rating for this system? Thanks! (By the way, we need a lot more information in this article than we currently have.) LightandDark2000 ( talk) 03:28, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
The wind gusts that were listed are incorrect. Those winds occurred on November 11, and were associated with a high pressure system and front not at all connected with or associated with the low that produced the winter storm. The source currently used as a reference says, "Damaging Winds Before the Winter Storm", and, "The winds are the result of the same winterlike air mass that has plunged all the way south to the Gulf Coast and eastward into the Ohio Valley behind a powerful cold front. A powerhouse high-pressure zone over western Canada and the northern U.S. is also trying to literally push this frigid but shallow air through gaps in the Rocky Mountains and from there into the Northwest, where it faces a second obstacle in the form of the Cascade Range. The high, whose central pressure was 1051 millibars (31.03 inches of mercury) over Canada's Northwest Territories Tuesday afternoon, has proven plenty strong enough to do just that. Winds began howling before sunrise Tuesday in the Columbia River Gorge just east of Portland, Oregon -- the most prominent gap in the Cascades, cutting a 4,000-foot-deep valley through the mountains." The area of low pressure that spawned the winter storm that is the subject of this article did not even make it close to the coast of the Pacific until November 13 and did not make it on shore until November 14. I have again removed the 88 mph figure; only wind gusts that are actually associated with the storm should be added. Inks.LWC ( talk) 21:25, 3 December 2014 (UTC)