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Surname - A variation of Notari, Notary is a surname of less than 100 people* (citation needed) world wide. In Australia there is only one Notary family consisting of only 13 people across three generations.
The article contradicts itself. The opening phrase does not apply to most US notaries public. "A notary is a lawyer or person with legal training who is licensed by the state to perform acts in legal affairs, in particular witnessing signatures on documents." There are no requirements for legal training for notaries public in most, if not all US jurisdictions. Yet the US notary public is mentioned right under that definition that does not apply. Would someone with sufficient experience in law topics please correct this article. It seems to mix too many different legal systems to remain consistently correct. THANKS. -- 99.11.162.138 ( talk) 05:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
According to the Panorama documentary "De notaris verdeelt", corruption is widespread within the entire notary branch, and notaries do their best to cover each other, even if it is clear that they conned people. See also dead link] this site
Some people such as Renaat_Landuyt have argued that the profession of notary, which is a remnant of the Napoleonic era can be made redundant/abolished and replaced by other entities. This would eliminate the problem that state matters are handled by a for-profit entity. [1] 14:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.237.180.232 ( talk)
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There are 3 types of notaries: (1) common-law notaries, referred to as public notaries (in the UK and the current and former British Commonwealth); (2) US notaries public (who aren't lawyers and can't do much); and (3) civil-law notaries. The 1st is dealt with under "Notary public" (which should be renamed "Public notary"); the 2nd under "Notary public (United States)"; and the 3rd under "Civil law notary". So, I ask, why does this page exist? Why not eliminate it or merge it? Torvalu4 ( talk) 13:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I reverted this edit which claimed "A notary is a lawyer (except in the United States)". In this context, it is important to make it clear that although in most US jurisdictions one doesn't need to be a lawyer, a lawyer is allowed to be a notary. This is important because some official positions are incompatible with each other. For example, an active-duty commissioned officer of the United States military is not allowed to be a notary because one is not allowed to hold federal office and state office simultaneously. Jc3s5h ( talk) 14:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
The main article starts with, "A notary is a person commissioned by the government ..." which I doubt should be part of the definition of all notaries. My reason for challenging this claim is that in Europe notaries public used to be commissioned by the Pope. In England that was a function of the Papal Legate - the Archbishop of Canterbury - and since King Henry VIII took over the Church of England notaries have continued to receive their commissions from the Archbishop, although they are no longer in minor orders. NRPanikker ( talk) 13:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
I came to this article wondering what backs up the notary. If I have a notarized document, how do I know that it was notarized by a valid notary? Are there fake notaries around, so I should question a document? But actually, I am interested in this at the highest level, not the individual document level. Gah4 ( talk) 01:07, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
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Surname - A variation of Notari, Notary is a surname of less than 100 people* (citation needed) world wide. In Australia there is only one Notary family consisting of only 13 people across three generations.
The article contradicts itself. The opening phrase does not apply to most US notaries public. "A notary is a lawyer or person with legal training who is licensed by the state to perform acts in legal affairs, in particular witnessing signatures on documents." There are no requirements for legal training for notaries public in most, if not all US jurisdictions. Yet the US notary public is mentioned right under that definition that does not apply. Would someone with sufficient experience in law topics please correct this article. It seems to mix too many different legal systems to remain consistently correct. THANKS. -- 99.11.162.138 ( talk) 05:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
According to the Panorama documentary "De notaris verdeelt", corruption is widespread within the entire notary branch, and notaries do their best to cover each other, even if it is clear that they conned people. See also dead link] this site
Some people such as Renaat_Landuyt have argued that the profession of notary, which is a remnant of the Napoleonic era can be made redundant/abolished and replaced by other entities. This would eliminate the problem that state matters are handled by a for-profit entity. [1] 14:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.237.180.232 ( talk)
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There are 3 types of notaries: (1) common-law notaries, referred to as public notaries (in the UK and the current and former British Commonwealth); (2) US notaries public (who aren't lawyers and can't do much); and (3) civil-law notaries. The 1st is dealt with under "Notary public" (which should be renamed "Public notary"); the 2nd under "Notary public (United States)"; and the 3rd under "Civil law notary". So, I ask, why does this page exist? Why not eliminate it or merge it? Torvalu4 ( talk) 13:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I reverted this edit which claimed "A notary is a lawyer (except in the United States)". In this context, it is important to make it clear that although in most US jurisdictions one doesn't need to be a lawyer, a lawyer is allowed to be a notary. This is important because some official positions are incompatible with each other. For example, an active-duty commissioned officer of the United States military is not allowed to be a notary because one is not allowed to hold federal office and state office simultaneously. Jc3s5h ( talk) 14:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
The main article starts with, "A notary is a person commissioned by the government ..." which I doubt should be part of the definition of all notaries. My reason for challenging this claim is that in Europe notaries public used to be commissioned by the Pope. In England that was a function of the Papal Legate - the Archbishop of Canterbury - and since King Henry VIII took over the Church of England notaries have continued to receive their commissions from the Archbishop, although they are no longer in minor orders. NRPanikker ( talk) 13:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
I came to this article wondering what backs up the notary. If I have a notarized document, how do I know that it was notarized by a valid notary? Are there fake notaries around, so I should question a document? But actually, I am interested in this at the highest level, not the individual document level. Gah4 ( talk) 01:07, 8 November 2019 (UTC)