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Which coalition is involved in the offensive? According to the Long War Journal [1], the groups involved are a separate coalition from the Army of Conquest. David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:09, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
There seems to be strong evidence that the Battle of Victory group is separate from the Army of Conquest (for example, each group has its own logo). [2] David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Given the scale of men/losses and its strategic importante the article should have a small map of the Theather of Operations. Mr.User200 ( talk) 12:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Al-Mastumah military camp, Qarmeed Brick Factory base, Ariha, Musabeen, Nihlya and other viliges have nothing to do with Jisr al-Shughur offensive! This is a completely different offensive. I'm proposing a split of the two offensive. 3bdulelah ( talk) 13:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose They are not separate offensives. As the sources in the article describe in detail, it is one complex three-pronged (Jisr al-Shughur, Mastouma, al-Ghab) offensive. Even the rebels themselves collectively call this large offensive taking place in three areas Battle of victory, so its one operation. However, I would support the renaming of this article to Idlib and Hama offensive (April鈥揗ay 2015), or something along those lines. But calling it two or three separate offensives is incorrect and not in line with the sources. As for the offensive that resulted in the capture of Idlib city, that was a separate operation that ended almost three weeks earlier. EkoGraf ( talk) 12:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The following non-free images used in the infobox do not have the separate, specific non-free rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c for use in this particular article.Therefore, I have removed them per WP:NFCCE and the discussion at WP:NFCR#2015 Jisr al-Shughur offensive. These images should not be re-added until a non-free use rationale for this article which satisfies all 10 of the criteria listed at WP:NFCCP has been added respectively for each image. The images which I removed are as follows:
- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
The infobox says that the rebels are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. As far as I know, the support to the rebels is general material support. Saying that the rebels are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar in this battle, while technically not wrong, seems irrelevant, unless Saudi jets were flying over Idlib or there were Turkish tanks in Jisr ash-Shughour that I don't know about. I've seen this on a lot of the articles pertaining to this war, and I think we should start trying to fix it unless Turkish/Saudi/Qatari forces are actually in a given battle and fighting with or otherwise supporting the rebs. Utahwriter14 ( talk) 21:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
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Which coalition is involved in the offensive? According to the Long War Journal [1], the groups involved are a separate coalition from the Army of Conquest. David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:09, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
There seems to be strong evidence that the Battle of Victory group is separate from the Army of Conquest (for example, each group has its own logo). [2] David O. Johnson ( talk) 22:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Given the scale of men/losses and its strategic importante the article should have a small map of the Theather of Operations. Mr.User200 ( talk) 12:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Al-Mastumah military camp, Qarmeed Brick Factory base, Ariha, Musabeen, Nihlya and other viliges have nothing to do with Jisr al-Shughur offensive! This is a completely different offensive. I'm proposing a split of the two offensive. 3bdulelah ( talk) 13:03, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Oppose They are not separate offensives. As the sources in the article describe in detail, it is one complex three-pronged (Jisr al-Shughur, Mastouma, al-Ghab) offensive. Even the rebels themselves collectively call this large offensive taking place in three areas Battle of victory, so its one operation. However, I would support the renaming of this article to Idlib and Hama offensive (April鈥揗ay 2015), or something along those lines. But calling it two or three separate offensives is incorrect and not in line with the sources. As for the offensive that resulted in the capture of Idlib city, that was a separate operation that ended almost three weeks earlier. EkoGraf ( talk) 12:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The following non-free images used in the infobox do not have the separate, specific non-free rationale required by WP:NFCC#10c for use in this particular article.Therefore, I have removed them per WP:NFCCE and the discussion at WP:NFCR#2015 Jisr al-Shughur offensive. These images should not be re-added until a non-free use rationale for this article which satisfies all 10 of the criteria listed at WP:NFCCP has been added respectively for each image. The images which I removed are as follows:
- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
The infobox says that the rebels are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. As far as I know, the support to the rebels is general material support. Saying that the rebels are supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar in this battle, while technically not wrong, seems irrelevant, unless Saudi jets were flying over Idlib or there were Turkish tanks in Jisr ash-Shughour that I don't know about. I've seen this on a lot of the articles pertaining to this war, and I think we should start trying to fix it unless Turkish/Saudi/Qatari forces are actually in a given battle and fighting with or otherwise supporting the rebs. Utahwriter14 ( talk) 21:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)