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A poll is currently underway to determine the rendition of the island, nation-state, and disambiguation articles/titles for Ireland in Wp. Please weigh in! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 08:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

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This image link seems to be popping a lot, as well as [1] there is a [2] website. From my limited observations in the Enlgand, where the country has been divied into 9 regions, it seems to perhaps suggest a layer above the nation level? So not sure if I'm saying that an actual definition today exists for this region (and othrs) but perhaps someone with a bit mroe knowledge in the area may be able to shine some more light on this. maybe even an article on the [Subdivisions of Europe]. brzak ( talk) 17:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Protestantism in "Celtic Europe"

I reverted Onetonycousins edit as it is unsourced, lacks verifiability and according to his edit summary Protestantism isn't a trait of Celtic Europe - despite the fact the majority of Welsh and Scottish people (so called Celtic-Europe nations) are Protestant, and that Protestantism exists in Ireland. Such edits hint at bias and WP:IDONTLIKE and would ask Onetonycousins to stop addinh such controversial and unsoured claims into the article. Mabuska (talk) 09:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The ironing is delicious. Onetonycousins ( talk) 15:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean irony? Mabuska (talk) 23:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Shipping

The North-West Europe term crops up in connection with shipping as a loose term used to cover a wider area than the (Le Havre - ) Hamburg Range, i.e. including UK North Sea and Channel ports, Norwegian coast and even Baltic sea. Everybody got to be somewhere! ( talk) 17:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Title spelling

Isn't Northwest the proper spelling? Shouldn't a spelling of "North-West" redirect to "Northwest" instead? Mistakefinder ( talk) 08:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

France

France has nothing to see with that concept ! Or pleas see a map ! France is a mediterranean country of latin culture whose big majority of its land is situated quite clearly in southern Europe. Only Normandy or Britanny could, exagerating since their position is more "middle/western", be included due to their relative proximity to the extreme south of the British isles. culturally obviously couldn't, since northwestern relates to protetantism and germanic languages.

France is big. Southern France may be Mediterranean, while Northern France ( Normandy, Francia) is definitely part of the historical Germanic cultural sphere. -- dab (𒁳) 11:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


Normandy is obviously not part of the Germanic cultural sphere. It is since 2000 years a romance-speaking area (that the reasons why the borrowing of latin-based words in English has been made mainly from Normandy). Said that it is true that Normandy shows, in opposition with most of the rest of France (alongside with Nord department, Alsace region and Moselle departement) some impact of germanic tribes (Vikings in the case of Normandy). But that is deeply false to imagine that because of the Viking invasions Normandy is a region of Scandinavian culture (there have been huge Vikings influences in Sicily, and nobody consider that island to be culturally Germanic). In Normandy, when it has been settled by Vikings, the viking did not put out the romance-speaking populations; vikings still were a minority in the whole Normandy area, and they would have been obliged rapidely to integrate into the local dominant latin culture. If they didn't do that, and were enought noumerous to impose their languages to Normandy we could say that Normandy would have switch into the germanic cultural sphere. But this never happened, Normandy continue to be part of the romance and catholic part of Europe, like 98% of the french territory. Alsace is another story, but is in no way representative of the whole country.

concerning the impact of the Frankish people, yes France had its name from them, and they ruled our country for centuries; but as for Vikings they were small minorities and then never could impose their languages and culture to the romance-speaking peoples that existed and still exist today. Whole France, included the northern part of of romance-speaking culture; there is no reason to try to pass France as a country of north western European culture while it is definitly not at all. That said; germanic rule was not limited to northern half of France, but concerned the whole western former roman empire: from Belgium to Andalucia (Franks, Wisigoths, Vandals, sueves, burgondians, etc), it concerns as much Spain or Italy than France (Spain kingdom and nobility was founded by wisigoths... even today most "Spanish" names such as Rodriguez, have germanic etymology...) but nobody calls Spain a country in the germanic cultural sphere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.59.166 ( talk) 10:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


France is not all all north-western Europe! Linguistically: it is romance speaking, like Italy, Spain and Portugal Religiously: it is not protestant, but catholic with muslim minority and at least and not the last Geographically speaking France is not in the northern half of Europe!!! the northermost regions that are supposed to make France as a whole being part of northern Europe such as Normandy are as the latitude of southern Germany... which is hardly geographically northern European (while it is much more culturally speaking) Like it or not France is part of the latin part of Europe... that is to say the SOUTH-western Europe and not north-western! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.19.67.76 ( talk) 17:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Archive 1

A poll is currently underway to determine the rendition of the island, nation-state, and disambiguation articles/titles for Ireland in Wp. Please weigh in! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 08:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

More recently...

This image link seems to be popping a lot, as well as [1] there is a [2] website. From my limited observations in the Enlgand, where the country has been divied into 9 regions, it seems to perhaps suggest a layer above the nation level? So not sure if I'm saying that an actual definition today exists for this region (and othrs) but perhaps someone with a bit mroe knowledge in the area may be able to shine some more light on this. maybe even an article on the [Subdivisions of Europe]. brzak ( talk) 17:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Protestantism in "Celtic Europe"

I reverted Onetonycousins edit as it is unsourced, lacks verifiability and according to his edit summary Protestantism isn't a trait of Celtic Europe - despite the fact the majority of Welsh and Scottish people (so called Celtic-Europe nations) are Protestant, and that Protestantism exists in Ireland. Such edits hint at bias and WP:IDONTLIKE and would ask Onetonycousins to stop addinh such controversial and unsoured claims into the article. Mabuska (talk) 09:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

The ironing is delicious. Onetonycousins ( talk) 15:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean irony? Mabuska (talk) 23:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Shipping

The North-West Europe term crops up in connection with shipping as a loose term used to cover a wider area than the (Le Havre - ) Hamburg Range, i.e. including UK North Sea and Channel ports, Norwegian coast and even Baltic sea. Everybody got to be somewhere! ( talk) 17:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Title spelling

Isn't Northwest the proper spelling? Shouldn't a spelling of "North-West" redirect to "Northwest" instead? Mistakefinder ( talk) 08:35, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

France

France has nothing to see with that concept ! Or pleas see a map ! France is a mediterranean country of latin culture whose big majority of its land is situated quite clearly in southern Europe. Only Normandy or Britanny could, exagerating since their position is more "middle/western", be included due to their relative proximity to the extreme south of the British isles. culturally obviously couldn't, since northwestern relates to protetantism and germanic languages.

France is big. Southern France may be Mediterranean, while Northern France ( Normandy, Francia) is definitely part of the historical Germanic cultural sphere. -- dab (𒁳) 11:57, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


Normandy is obviously not part of the Germanic cultural sphere. It is since 2000 years a romance-speaking area (that the reasons why the borrowing of latin-based words in English has been made mainly from Normandy). Said that it is true that Normandy shows, in opposition with most of the rest of France (alongside with Nord department, Alsace region and Moselle departement) some impact of germanic tribes (Vikings in the case of Normandy). But that is deeply false to imagine that because of the Viking invasions Normandy is a region of Scandinavian culture (there have been huge Vikings influences in Sicily, and nobody consider that island to be culturally Germanic). In Normandy, when it has been settled by Vikings, the viking did not put out the romance-speaking populations; vikings still were a minority in the whole Normandy area, and they would have been obliged rapidely to integrate into the local dominant latin culture. If they didn't do that, and were enought noumerous to impose their languages to Normandy we could say that Normandy would have switch into the germanic cultural sphere. But this never happened, Normandy continue to be part of the romance and catholic part of Europe, like 98% of the french territory. Alsace is another story, but is in no way representative of the whole country.

concerning the impact of the Frankish people, yes France had its name from them, and they ruled our country for centuries; but as for Vikings they were small minorities and then never could impose their languages and culture to the romance-speaking peoples that existed and still exist today. Whole France, included the northern part of of romance-speaking culture; there is no reason to try to pass France as a country of north western European culture while it is definitly not at all. That said; germanic rule was not limited to northern half of France, but concerned the whole western former roman empire: from Belgium to Andalucia (Franks, Wisigoths, Vandals, sueves, burgondians, etc), it concerns as much Spain or Italy than France (Spain kingdom and nobility was founded by wisigoths... even today most "Spanish" names such as Rodriguez, have germanic etymology...) but nobody calls Spain a country in the germanic cultural sphere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.59.166 ( talk) 10:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


France is not all all north-western Europe! Linguistically: it is romance speaking, like Italy, Spain and Portugal Religiously: it is not protestant, but catholic with muslim minority and at least and not the last Geographically speaking France is not in the northern half of Europe!!! the northermost regions that are supposed to make France as a whole being part of northern Europe such as Normandy are as the latitude of southern Germany... which is hardly geographically northern European (while it is much more culturally speaking) Like it or not France is part of the latin part of Europe... that is to say the SOUTH-western Europe and not north-western! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.19.67.76 ( talk) 17:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


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