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As of 20 september some parts of this article need rewriting to reflect changes brought about by the opening of Battersea & Nine Elms stations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.194.119.250 ( talk) 11:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Angel is listed as a moved station. The station didn't move but one platform did. Originally it comprised a very large tunnel containing a skinny island platform with tracks on either side. A new tunnel was dug for the northbound line with a new platform and the southbound platform was widened by filling in the old northbound track. A similar exercise was performed at Euston to give cross-platform access to the Victoria line in 1968. Bank originally had two separate platforms that were very close together. The Northbound track was moved (that is a new tunnel was built) and the original tunnel converted into a concourse between the two platforms. Does this qualify as a moved station. If not then what about Angel. Should that remain a moved station? OrewaTel ( talk) 07:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. This Northern line was found to be the primary topic, backed up by page view data. As the primary topic, it does not need a disambiguator. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 15:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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– Name is too ambiguous. Note that the specific method of disambiguation is already in use in Central line (London Underground) and Circle line (London Underground). Animal lover |666| 16:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The bare words 'Northern Line' always mean London Underground- to who exactly does that
always meanthat? I'm not from the UK and I've never connected those two words with that system. Gonnym ( talk) 08:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
The article claims that "The tunnel from Morden to East Finchley via Bank, 17 miles 528 yards (27.841 km), was for a time the longest in the world. The Channel Tunnel linking the UK and France together is now longer."
However, this isn't true, as according to the list of longest tunnels of any kind, the Rothschönberger Stolln (water) tunnel (50.9 km) was the longest from 1882 to 1945, which was already longer than the Northern Line tunnel (27.8 km) when the latter was completed.
The claim makes more sense if we're only talking about rail tunnels - in which case the Northern Line tunnel was indeed the longest from 1940 to around 1978, when it was beaten by a line in St Petersburg (29.6 km) - long before the Channel tunnel was built. Gadget1000 ( talk) 12:02, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
In the infobox the operating speed is quoted as being 45 mph. Recently a train operator (that's the driver - in USA he would be called the engineer) changed it to 50 mph because that is the speed that he drives the train. This was reverted with a "Personal experience doesn't count" tag. The citation for 45 mph is a dead link but it seems to have been an op-ed in a free paper given away at stations. Personally I would put more weight on someone who knows the facts rather than a journalist making up a list of figures to put some text between adverts. It doesn't make any difference that the journalist's article was published.
Anyway the free sheet has long been pulped and we no longer have access to the original writing. And nor do we have any way of finding out how the journalist come up with the figure of 45 mph. We now have the situation that Wikipedia has a wrong figure and that figure is currently uncited.
I have commented out the speed line in the infobox. This could be re-instated if we get a citation. Alternatively our train operator could cite the operating manual and add the correct speed. OrewaTel ( talk) 10:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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As of 20 september some parts of this article need rewriting to reflect changes brought about by the opening of Battersea & Nine Elms stations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.194.119.250 ( talk) 11:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Angel is listed as a moved station. The station didn't move but one platform did. Originally it comprised a very large tunnel containing a skinny island platform with tracks on either side. A new tunnel was dug for the northbound line with a new platform and the southbound platform was widened by filling in the old northbound track. A similar exercise was performed at Euston to give cross-platform access to the Victoria line in 1968. Bank originally had two separate platforms that were very close together. The Northbound track was moved (that is a new tunnel was built) and the original tunnel converted into a concourse between the two platforms. Does this qualify as a moved station. If not then what about Angel. Should that remain a moved station? OrewaTel ( talk) 07:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. This Northern line was found to be the primary topic, backed up by page view data. As the primary topic, it does not need a disambiguator. ( closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 15:23, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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– Name is too ambiguous. Note that the specific method of disambiguation is already in use in Central line (London Underground) and Circle line (London Underground). Animal lover |666| 16:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 16:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
The bare words 'Northern Line' always mean London Underground- to who exactly does that
always meanthat? I'm not from the UK and I've never connected those two words with that system. Gonnym ( talk) 08:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
The article claims that "The tunnel from Morden to East Finchley via Bank, 17 miles 528 yards (27.841 km), was for a time the longest in the world. The Channel Tunnel linking the UK and France together is now longer."
However, this isn't true, as according to the list of longest tunnels of any kind, the Rothschönberger Stolln (water) tunnel (50.9 km) was the longest from 1882 to 1945, which was already longer than the Northern Line tunnel (27.8 km) when the latter was completed.
The claim makes more sense if we're only talking about rail tunnels - in which case the Northern Line tunnel was indeed the longest from 1940 to around 1978, when it was beaten by a line in St Petersburg (29.6 km) - long before the Channel tunnel was built. Gadget1000 ( talk) 12:02, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
In the infobox the operating speed is quoted as being 45 mph. Recently a train operator (that's the driver - in USA he would be called the engineer) changed it to 50 mph because that is the speed that he drives the train. This was reverted with a "Personal experience doesn't count" tag. The citation for 45 mph is a dead link but it seems to have been an op-ed in a free paper given away at stations. Personally I would put more weight on someone who knows the facts rather than a journalist making up a list of figures to put some text between adverts. It doesn't make any difference that the journalist's article was published.
Anyway the free sheet has long been pulped and we no longer have access to the original writing. And nor do we have any way of finding out how the journalist come up with the figure of 45 mph. We now have the situation that Wikipedia has a wrong figure and that figure is currently uncited.
I have commented out the speed line in the infobox. This could be re-instated if we get a citation. Alternatively our train operator could cite the operating manual and add the correct speed. OrewaTel ( talk) 10:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)