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At one point in the summary it is mentioned that although Catherine has realized that Isabella is a dishonest person she will miss her as a friend. I would like to if possible clarify that as I currently have read this story, She is not very distressed at losing Isabella's friendship. Please if you disagree, revert the changes I will be making to it. -Anonymous
Added date of publication of Udolpho to plot summary. Kbrewer36 ( talk) 18:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)kbrewer36 Kbrewer36 ( talk) 18:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
I expanded the plot, as it was incomplete (it kind of stopped abruptly in the middle of the action of the novel). If there is too much detail, or if I missed any important parts, please stick them in! This is the fist major plot summary I've done, so additions/subtractions are completely welcome. well, they ususally are, but you get the idea. -- Ecurran 23:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I notice that no one has attempted to take on John Thorpe! I significantly rewrote the beginning of Isabella Thorpe's description -- you weren't considered a spinster just because you were approaching your twenties, it was that lacking money to bring to a marriage (for which "dowry" is actually not the best word) was one thing that would make it likely that you could end up becoming a spinster, around your late twenties. Churchh 16:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that many of the movie characters, and part of the plot, are based upon Austen's novel.
Why dat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.249 ( talk) 09:57, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
...that Jane Austen referenced Ann Radcliffe's works, "A Sicilian Romance" and "The Romance of the Forest" somewhere in Northanger Abbey; ----yet---- in this section of the article, I have two reasons for reinstating the previous narrative (ie, of 4 March 2010); namely:
1) that narrative is correct --ie, the article's 4 March phrasing (of JA referencing AR's works) can indeed be identified in the novel, in chapter 6, as JA writes a scene referring to 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian' (see source citation to the novel). Plus, the 4 March narrative provides coherence for the reader in that it connects the mention of 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian' with quoting the scene (in chapter 6) of JA's characters talking about 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian'. There is no advantage --and there is confusion-- in inserting Ms Butler's for JA's actual references here.
2) re Ms Butler's references to other Ann Radcliffe novels: If reporting Ms Butler's comments is deemed valuable, then it can be done in this section also. Earlier I requested the location(s) of such references be identified in the novel by specific citation (to the novel). In good faith I again request this be done --here, if not in the article-- if Ms Butler's book is referenced.-- Jbeans ( talk) 09:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
The reference to baseball in the novel has been used to argue that the game is English, not American, in origin and that rounders is the variant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#Origins_of_baseball
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Before_We_Knew_It
Gavinturner ( talk) 17:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
An editor has inserted a conversion for "400 pounds annually (worth about £13,584.00 in 2005)." Actually, we are warned about trying to convert money from another era using cost of living, or whatever. 13K is pretty modest today, maybe near poverty level in UK. But THEN, the parson could afford a cook, a housekeeper, a horse and shay (with feed for the horse!), entertaining people now and then. In short, a clearly middle-class life, but on the low-end, perhaps. Wages of the underclass were incredibly low and cost-of-living does not reflect that. Student7 ( talk) 18:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Is a reference needed for the pronunciation given? I can't object to this pronunciation, but there are other possibilities, such as the placement of the accents, etc. TomS TDotO ( talk) 14:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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Since you ask, no. 86.176.175.184 ( talk) 23:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
I would like to edit aspects of this page to make it stronger. For example, there are several sections (including "Major Themes," "Development," "Allusions to Other Works," "Historical Source," and "References to Northanger Abbey") that either need additional development, or could be merged with other article sections.
A bibliography I have been compiling to make such changes (among others) includes:
Does anyone have any opinions on this? Migottlieb ( talk) 15:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't the possible influence of Don Quixote be considered? Rwood128 ( talk) 21:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Why in the paragraph "Allusions to other works" the novel 'The Italian' by Anne Radcliffe hasn't be mentioned at all? I think it should be included, since it is mentioned in Isabella's letter (and her words are quoted in the box). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiorelisa ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 2 May 2024. Further details are available
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Is the "Characters" section necessary to this article? Most of it is redundant information from the "Plot summary" section or opinions about the characters. Northanger Abbey does not have a lot of characters nor are their names confusing, so I do not see why this section is needed. Lindy Sachse ( talk) 23:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to give a heads up on some changes that I plan on making to the page and see if anyone had any feedback.
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Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 05:25, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
At one point in the summary it is mentioned that although Catherine has realized that Isabella is a dishonest person she will miss her as a friend. I would like to if possible clarify that as I currently have read this story, She is not very distressed at losing Isabella's friendship. Please if you disagree, revert the changes I will be making to it. -Anonymous
Added date of publication of Udolpho to plot summary. Kbrewer36 ( talk) 18:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)kbrewer36 Kbrewer36 ( talk) 18:22, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
I expanded the plot, as it was incomplete (it kind of stopped abruptly in the middle of the action of the novel). If there is too much detail, or if I missed any important parts, please stick them in! This is the fist major plot summary I've done, so additions/subtractions are completely welcome. well, they ususally are, but you get the idea. -- Ecurran 23:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I notice that no one has attempted to take on John Thorpe! I significantly rewrote the beginning of Isabella Thorpe's description -- you weren't considered a spinster just because you were approaching your twenties, it was that lacking money to bring to a marriage (for which "dowry" is actually not the best word) was one thing that would make it likely that you could end up becoming a spinster, around your late twenties. Churchh 16:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that many of the movie characters, and part of the plot, are based upon Austen's novel.
Why dat? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.249 ( talk) 09:57, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
...that Jane Austen referenced Ann Radcliffe's works, "A Sicilian Romance" and "The Romance of the Forest" somewhere in Northanger Abbey; ----yet---- in this section of the article, I have two reasons for reinstating the previous narrative (ie, of 4 March 2010); namely:
1) that narrative is correct --ie, the article's 4 March phrasing (of JA referencing AR's works) can indeed be identified in the novel, in chapter 6, as JA writes a scene referring to 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian' (see source citation to the novel). Plus, the 4 March narrative provides coherence for the reader in that it connects the mention of 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian' with quoting the scene (in chapter 6) of JA's characters talking about 'Udolpho' and 'The Italian'. There is no advantage --and there is confusion-- in inserting Ms Butler's for JA's actual references here.
2) re Ms Butler's references to other Ann Radcliffe novels: If reporting Ms Butler's comments is deemed valuable, then it can be done in this section also. Earlier I requested the location(s) of such references be identified in the novel by specific citation (to the novel). In good faith I again request this be done --here, if not in the article-- if Ms Butler's book is referenced.-- Jbeans ( talk) 09:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
The reference to baseball in the novel has been used to argue that the game is English, not American, in origin and that rounders is the variant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball#Origins_of_baseball
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Before_We_Knew_It
Gavinturner ( talk) 17:19, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
An editor has inserted a conversion for "400 pounds annually (worth about £13,584.00 in 2005)." Actually, we are warned about trying to convert money from another era using cost of living, or whatever. 13K is pretty modest today, maybe near poverty level in UK. But THEN, the parson could afford a cook, a housekeeper, a horse and shay (with feed for the horse!), entertaining people now and then. In short, a clearly middle-class life, but on the low-end, perhaps. Wages of the underclass were incredibly low and cost-of-living does not reflect that. Student7 ( talk) 18:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Is a reference needed for the pronunciation given? I can't object to this pronunciation, but there are other possibilities, such as the placement of the accents, etc. TomS TDotO ( talk) 14:33, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Should this be converted into something usable on this page? <includeonly>{{Sidebar | name = Economics sidebar | bodyclass = plainlist | titlestyle =background: none; | title = [[Economics]] | imagestyle = padding-left:0;padding-right:0; | image = [[File:Countries by GDP (PPP) Per Capita in 2015.svg|frameless|220px|World GDP (PPP) per capita by country]] | captionstyle = font-size:90%<!--no smaller than 90%, please ([[WP:ACCESS]])-->;white-space:nowrap;padding-bottom:0.2em; background: none; | caption = [[List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita|World GDP (PPP) per capita by country]] (2015) | headingstyle = background:#ddddff;background-color: #efefef; | contentstyle = padding:0.15em 0.25em 0.5em; | abovestyle = padding:0.15em 0.15em 0.25em; display:block; margin-bottom:0.55em; background-color: #efefef; | above = {{startflatlist}} * [[Index of economics articles|Index]] * [[Outline of economics|Outline]] * [[:Category:Economics|Category]] {{endflatlist}} | heading2 = {{hlist|class=nowrap |History|Types|Classification}} | content2 = <!--[Too early (first three links each fill a line):] {{startflatlist}}--> * [[History of economic thought|History of economics]] * [[Economic history|Economic history {{smaller|(academic study)}}]] * [[Schools of economic thought|Schools of economics]] {{startflatlist}} * [[Microeconomics]] * [[Macroeconomics]] * [[Economic methodology|Methodology]] * [[Heterodox economics]] * [[JEL classification codes]] {{endflatlist}} | heading3 = {{hlist|class=nowrap |Concepts|Theory|Techniques}} | content3 = {{startflatlist}} * [[Econometrics]] * [[Economic growth]] * [[Economic system]] * [[Experimental economics|{{allow wrap|Experimental economics}}]] * [[Mathematical economics]] * [[Game theory|{{allow wrap|Game theory}}]] * [[Market (economics)|Market]] * [[National accounts|National accounting]] {{endflatlist}} | heading4 = By application | content4 = {{startflatlist}} * [[Agricultural economics|Agricultural]] * [[Behavioral economics|Behavioral]] * [[Business economics|Business]] * [[Computational economics|Computational]] * [[Cultural economics|Cultural]] * [[Demographic economics|Demographic]] * [[Development economics|Development]] * [[Economics of Digitization|Digiti{{#ifeq:{{{sp}}}|uk|s|z}}ation]] * [[Ecological economics|Ecological]] * [[Education economics|Education]] * [[Environmental economics|Environmental]] * [[Evolutionary economics|Evolutionary]] * [[Expeditionary economics|Expeditionary]] * [[Economic geography|Geography]] * [[Health economics|Health]] * [[Industrial organization|Industrial organi{{#ifeq:{{{sp}}}|uk|s|z}}ation]] * [[Information economics|Information]] * [[International economics|International]] * [[Knowledge economy|Knowledge]] * [[Labour economics|Labo{{#ifeq:{{{sp}}}|us||u}}r]] * [[Law and economics|Law]] * [[Managerial economics|Managerial]] * [[Monetary economics|Monetary]]{{\}}[[Financial economics|Financial]] * [[Natural resource economics|Natural resource]] * [[Personnel economics|Personnel]] <!---Note: The "Welfare economics" link in the following line retains "economics" in order to distinguish it from the subsequent "Welfare" link:---> * [[Public economics|Public]]{{\}}[[Welfare economics]] * [[Regional science|Regional]] * [[Rural economics|Rural]] * [[Service economy|Service]] * [[Urban economics|Urban]] * [[Welfare]] {{endflatlist}} | heading5 = [[:Category:Economics lists|Lists]] | content5 = * [[List of economists|Economists]] * [[List of important publications in economics|Publications]] ([[List of economics journals|journals]]) | belowstyle = background-color: #efefef; | below = * {{portal-inline|size=tiny|Business and economics}} }}</includeonly><noinclude>{{Documentation}}</noinclude>
Since you ask, no. 86.176.175.184 ( talk) 23:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
I would like to edit aspects of this page to make it stronger. For example, there are several sections (including "Major Themes," "Development," "Allusions to Other Works," "Historical Source," and "References to Northanger Abbey") that either need additional development, or could be merged with other article sections.
A bibliography I have been compiling to make such changes (among others) includes:
Does anyone have any opinions on this? Migottlieb ( talk) 15:50, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Shouldn't the possible influence of Don Quixote be considered? Rwood128 ( talk) 21:29, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Why in the paragraph "Allusions to other works" the novel 'The Italian' by Anne Radcliffe hasn't be mentioned at all? I think it should be included, since it is mentioned in Isabella's letter (and her words are quoted in the box). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiorelisa ( talk • contribs) 14:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 2 May 2024. Further details are available
on the course page. Student editor(s):
Lindy Sachse (
article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by N.Yil27 ( talk) 06:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Is the "Characters" section necessary to this article? Most of it is redundant information from the "Plot summary" section or opinions about the characters. Northanger Abbey does not have a lot of characters nor are their names confusing, so I do not see why this section is needed. Lindy Sachse ( talk) 23:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to give a heads up on some changes that I plan on making to the page and see if anyone had any feedback.