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This page should be integrated into a larger page on mascot naming controversy. It's not proper to start an article on something simply to criticise it. -- Alexwcovington 07:12, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It apparently only takes 70 years for people to be truly offended? Yeesh. The debate seems a little off. Its not like it is wimpy or surrendering Sioux. Many Indians fought on despite enormous odds. Hardly a character flaw to be steadfast in the face of such. On the bright side, a ready made replacement for Fighting Sioux could be Spineless WASPs... which would probably garner no outcry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zotel ( talk • contribs)
Actaully it did not take 70 years. this controversy has been ongoing for some time. It is not somuch the use of the word "Fighting" that some find offensive as it is the word "Sious" which was a name given to several tribes by European Americans. The Native American community has always ben didvided on the use of that name. Some oppose it and some embrace it. And I suspect that the use of the term "Spinelss Wasps" would also be seen as inapporpriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 ( talk • contribs)
To me this is a pretty good example of an ongoing controversy and how people and groups line up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 ( talk • contribs)
I felt that the section on controversy was rather one-sided, focusing only on those who are opposed to the Fighting Sioux mascot. I would suggest that someone balance this article so that it conforms to a more NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.112.215 ( talk • contribs)
This article absolutely needs balancing. The entire paragraph regarding the controversy of the mascot was obviously written by someone against what the NCAA and some activists are doing to bad the mascot. Markgerard2020 ( talk) 01:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus in this discussion to make this mass move, however since none of these are over redirects, any editor can made the individual moves if sources support the new title Mike Cline ( talk) 23:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
– With the abandonment of the Fighting Sioux nickname, the university has expressed the wish to have no athletic nickname for the time being. Reliable (non-fan) sources have been quick to comply with the change (for example: USCHO). We should likewise follow reliable sources and remove the Fighting Sioux name from the title of this page and its sub-pages. North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockey has already been moved to University of North Dakota men's ice hockey (not by me, and I didn't know it had been moved until I started formatting this request). relisted - Mike Cline ( talk) 15:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC) Powers T 01:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv ( talk) 09:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
--Relisted Cúchullain t/ c 16:04, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Relisted for further input. Aervanath ( talk) 19:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC) Relisted for further input. Jafeluv ( talk) 10:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
– Reverting a no-consensus move made in January 2012 per WP:COMMONNAME. As the most recent nickname for UND athletics is "Fighting Sioux", that is the nickname that should be used. Standard naming, as stated in the last RM, is <school> <mascot> <sport> for every other collegiate athletic program. (Also, the website for UND athletics is still FightingSioux.com, which indicates that the nickname is still in common use.) Six Sided Pun Vows ( talk | contribs | former account) 14:54, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I was wondering. Due to the controversy of North Dakota athletics' nickname and logo, should UND revert back to its old nickname as the "Flickertails"? Just my opinion.
There is no reason why the nickname stuff needs to be in the first paragraph of this article.-- 24.111.158.26 ( talk) 01:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Several of the citation links go to a 404. The ones I tested are the ones linking to "B.R.I.D.G.E.S.", the others may be bad as well. 216.137.192.89 ( talk) 21:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Now that a new nickname has been selected, is it time to move the controversy content to a new article, so that this could be only about UND athletics? I would not want to clutter the main Native American mascot controversy with excessive detail about one school. FriendlyFred ( talk) 17:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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This page should be integrated into a larger page on mascot naming controversy. It's not proper to start an article on something simply to criticise it. -- Alexwcovington 07:12, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
It apparently only takes 70 years for people to be truly offended? Yeesh. The debate seems a little off. Its not like it is wimpy or surrendering Sioux. Many Indians fought on despite enormous odds. Hardly a character flaw to be steadfast in the face of such. On the bright side, a ready made replacement for Fighting Sioux could be Spineless WASPs... which would probably garner no outcry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zotel ( talk • contribs)
Actaully it did not take 70 years. this controversy has been ongoing for some time. It is not somuch the use of the word "Fighting" that some find offensive as it is the word "Sious" which was a name given to several tribes by European Americans. The Native American community has always ben didvided on the use of that name. Some oppose it and some embrace it. And I suspect that the use of the term "Spinelss Wasps" would also be seen as inapporpriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 ( talk • contribs)
To me this is a pretty good example of an ongoing controversy and how people and groups line up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 ( talk • contribs)
I felt that the section on controversy was rather one-sided, focusing only on those who are opposed to the Fighting Sioux mascot. I would suggest that someone balance this article so that it conforms to a more NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.112.215 ( talk • contribs)
This article absolutely needs balancing. The entire paragraph regarding the controversy of the mascot was obviously written by someone against what the NCAA and some activists are doing to bad the mascot. Markgerard2020 ( talk) 01:42, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus in this discussion to make this mass move, however since none of these are over redirects, any editor can made the individual moves if sources support the new title Mike Cline ( talk) 23:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
– With the abandonment of the Fighting Sioux nickname, the university has expressed the wish to have no athletic nickname for the time being. Reliable (non-fan) sources have been quick to comply with the change (for example: USCHO). We should likewise follow reliable sources and remove the Fighting Sioux name from the title of this page and its sub-pages. North Dakota Fighting Sioux men's ice hockey has already been moved to University of North Dakota men's ice hockey (not by me, and I didn't know it had been moved until I started formatting this request). relisted - Mike Cline ( talk) 15:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC) Powers T 01:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. Jafeluv ( talk) 09:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
--Relisted Cúchullain t/ c 16:04, 13 June 2012 (UTC)Relisted for further input. Aervanath ( talk) 19:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC) Relisted for further input. Jafeluv ( talk) 10:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
– Reverting a no-consensus move made in January 2012 per WP:COMMONNAME. As the most recent nickname for UND athletics is "Fighting Sioux", that is the nickname that should be used. Standard naming, as stated in the last RM, is <school> <mascot> <sport> for every other collegiate athletic program. (Also, the website for UND athletics is still FightingSioux.com, which indicates that the nickname is still in common use.) Six Sided Pun Vows ( talk | contribs | former account) 14:54, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I was wondering. Due to the controversy of North Dakota athletics' nickname and logo, should UND revert back to its old nickname as the "Flickertails"? Just my opinion.
There is no reason why the nickname stuff needs to be in the first paragraph of this article.-- 24.111.158.26 ( talk) 01:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
Several of the citation links go to a 404. The ones I tested are the ones linking to "B.R.I.D.G.E.S.", the others may be bad as well. 216.137.192.89 ( talk) 21:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Now that a new nickname has been selected, is it time to move the controversy content to a new article, so that this could be only about UND athletics? I would not want to clutter the main Native American mascot controversy with excessive detail about one school. FriendlyFred ( talk) 17:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)