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Norman Jones (Invercargill) →
Norman Jones (politician) – This is the original name for this article. The 2008 rationale ("disambiguating qualifiers delineating political figures have traditionally identified them with their home bases, states or provinces") for moving the article to its current name was wrong. Where disambiguation for people is needed, the dab identifies what they are known for. If there is more than one person with a name known for the same thing, it is then that the country (or state) gets added to the dab. Requires move over redirect. Schwede6620:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support, would prefer to see
Norman Jones (New Zealand politician) - follows style of other politicians. "Invercargill" is not a correct disambiguation for articles.
Comment - luckily Norman Francis (Gerry) Jones is known as Gerry Jones, not Norman Jones! So that is at this point enough disambiguation, however,
Norman Jones (Australian politician) could be created as a redirect, as it might be a legitimate search, and if so then the New Zealand would become needed. I find that due to the nature of politics being regional, for the most part, country disambiguation is a good idea. --
Education does not equal common sense.我不在乎05:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support either (politician) or (New Zealand politician). I would however not support a redirect from (Australian politician) as it's a different country entirely - it would be like having (for example) a Fred Smith as a politician in Québec with "Fred Smith (Newfoundland politician)" redirected there.
Daveosaurus (
talk)
07:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
No one is proposing a redirect from Australian politician to this article, however Norman Francis (Gerry) Jones, is an Australian politician, and a redirect from (Australian politician) to that article would be appropriate. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my previous comment.--
Education does not equal common sense.我不在乎07:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Much clearer now thanks. I misread the previous comment as suggesting that (Australian politician) be redirected here. And I honestly had no idea that Newfoundland wasn't a Province - does the same go for Prince Edward Island as well then?
Daveosaurus (
talk)
07:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support exactly as proposed. (politician) is sufficient disambiguation unless another politician with the same name gets an article. --
BDD (
talk)
18:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Norman Jones (Invercargill) →
Norman Jones (politician) – This is the original name for this article. The 2008 rationale ("disambiguating qualifiers delineating political figures have traditionally identified them with their home bases, states or provinces") for moving the article to its current name was wrong. Where disambiguation for people is needed, the dab identifies what they are known for. If there is more than one person with a name known for the same thing, it is then that the country (or state) gets added to the dab. Requires move over redirect. Schwede6620:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support, would prefer to see
Norman Jones (New Zealand politician) - follows style of other politicians. "Invercargill" is not a correct disambiguation for articles.
Comment - luckily Norman Francis (Gerry) Jones is known as Gerry Jones, not Norman Jones! So that is at this point enough disambiguation, however,
Norman Jones (Australian politician) could be created as a redirect, as it might be a legitimate search, and if so then the New Zealand would become needed. I find that due to the nature of politics being regional, for the most part, country disambiguation is a good idea. --
Education does not equal common sense.我不在乎05:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support either (politician) or (New Zealand politician). I would however not support a redirect from (Australian politician) as it's a different country entirely - it would be like having (for example) a Fred Smith as a politician in Québec with "Fred Smith (Newfoundland politician)" redirected there.
Daveosaurus (
talk)
07:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
No one is proposing a redirect from Australian politician to this article, however Norman Francis (Gerry) Jones, is an Australian politician, and a redirect from (Australian politician) to that article would be appropriate. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my previous comment.--
Education does not equal common sense.我不在乎07:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Much clearer now thanks. I misread the previous comment as suggesting that (Australian politician) be redirected here. And I honestly had no idea that Newfoundland wasn't a Province - does the same go for Prince Edward Island as well then?
Daveosaurus (
talk)
07:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Support exactly as proposed. (politician) is sufficient disambiguation unless another politician with the same name gets an article. --
BDD (
talk)
18:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.