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The result of the move request was: page moved. Fixing the mispelling surely is uncontroversial. Andrewa ( talk) 01:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Nobody but Me (The Isley Bothers song) →
Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song) — (OMG, I have misspelled The Isley B'r'others, shame on me), This is a song written by and 1963 single by The Isley Brothers, therefore the article's name must be "Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song)". --
E-Kartoffel (
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19:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
you are right, as I am not a native speaker I fear my train of thought does not come across properly. I don't mean to be aggressive. Still any article about a song mentions writers, producers, origins and that is how we end up naming this article. I don't see a way out of it. We could also name this artice 'Nobody but Me (song)' with a redirect to other songs to get out of this problem (to get into another). What does make me angry that the writer (you?) appears to deliberately dismiss the song's "black music" origins and claims it is "pre-punk" (low-fi, raw) "garage rock", whilst it is a song about dancing, a 1967 mainstream pop product by one of the biggest record companies, and it can be easily mistaken for a contemporary soul production. The HB recording is a 60s soul/dance/discoteque standard. But thankfully the quality of the recording does not affect the article name, no need to discuss this here.( E-Kartoffel ( talk) 11:24, 14 March 2011 (UTC))
Following recent move activity, the lead and title don't really match. I'm guessing based on discussion above that it's the lead that needs tidying up, rather the title (otherwise I would have relisted te RM). Andrewa ( talk) 01:21, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
From the article: "Despite its stay in the top ten in 1968, it's likely that the song reached most listeners by its inclusion on Lenny Kaye's Nuggets compilation (note: song isn't on that album, but appears on the Rhino box). " OK. Aside from the other issues already raised about this article (it seems to me, also, that the Human Beinz took an Isley Brothers riff and made something new (rock-and-roll) of it) the statement "the song reached most listeners" by its inclusion on some later compilation is amusing to those who danced to the "no no no no" and learned the guitar solo note for note in the '60's. Wikipedia should avoid this sort of time-centric POV statements. It is clearly original research and POV to say that everyone heard the song when you did. 24.27.31.170 ( talk) 18:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC) Eric
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 15:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song) → Nobody but Me (The Human Beinz song) – Perhaps I'm wrong, but do we not name the titles of songs by the artist's version that was most notable? The Human Beinz's version is clearly the most notable in this case. Hoops gza ( talk) 22:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Whether or not the second proposed move above goes ahead, the section Other versions should clearly set out which are versions of the original, and which of the Beinz version. Will work on it. Andrewa ( talk) 17:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm... the George Thorogood version at http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Nobody-But-Me-lyrics-George-Thorogood-And-The-Destroyers/6FE8755EB97F0B0148257848002FAA6E (yes you do need the last level of that URL or it leads back to the index) does seem to be the Beinz version of the lyrics rather than the IB, as our article currently [1] says.
Note also that a former IB member is Jimi Hendrix. What with this and, even more significantly, 22 charting singles from 1962 to 2001 and 20 charting albums most recently in 2006, they are an important part of musical history. Andrewa ( talk) 17:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
IB lyrics at http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/the_isley_brothers/nobody_but_me.html and exactly as I remember them. It got lots of airplay in Oz in the 60s and still hits the occasional FM playlist here. Andrewa ( talk) 17:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
And of course see Nobody but Me for four more songs of that name, including Nobody but Me (Blake Shelton song) and another recorded by Lou Rawls, both of them available as ringtones which indicates some degree of fame. And there are stll others that have received some Oz airplay over the last half century or so! It's a predictable title, with probably thousands of unrecorded lovesongs by that name penned by unknown lovestruck minstrels over the years. Andrewa ( talk) 17:54, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Is it really noteworthy that Dave Marsh counted all the times "no" and "nobody" occur in the song? And does anyone really care that he makes a ridiculous claim of "most negative" song simply by counting what becomes, in effect, a nonsense syllable? Surely this is not noteworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.62.214 ( talk) 04:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Who sang lead on the Human Beinz version? OlyDLG ( talk) 19:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Removed 3 claims from the article. The number of "no"s wasn't supported by reference, ergo WP:OR. The Human Beinz version was described and listed as Garage Rock. The only cited supporting reference wasn't WP:RS, so it was removed, as well as the claims. The claim that the Human Beinz only used part of the Isley version wasn't supported by refs, and didn't sound that way to me. Since my OR is as good as anyone's, all claims and counterclaims are now out. Tapered ( talk) 02:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Fixing the mispelling surely is uncontroversial. Andrewa ( talk) 01:18, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Nobody but Me (The Isley Bothers song) →
Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song) — (OMG, I have misspelled The Isley B'r'others, shame on me), This is a song written by and 1963 single by The Isley Brothers, therefore the article's name must be "Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song)". --
E-Kartoffel (
talk)
19:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
you are right, as I am not a native speaker I fear my train of thought does not come across properly. I don't mean to be aggressive. Still any article about a song mentions writers, producers, origins and that is how we end up naming this article. I don't see a way out of it. We could also name this artice 'Nobody but Me (song)' with a redirect to other songs to get out of this problem (to get into another). What does make me angry that the writer (you?) appears to deliberately dismiss the song's "black music" origins and claims it is "pre-punk" (low-fi, raw) "garage rock", whilst it is a song about dancing, a 1967 mainstream pop product by one of the biggest record companies, and it can be easily mistaken for a contemporary soul production. The HB recording is a 60s soul/dance/discoteque standard. But thankfully the quality of the recording does not affect the article name, no need to discuss this here.( E-Kartoffel ( talk) 11:24, 14 March 2011 (UTC))
Following recent move activity, the lead and title don't really match. I'm guessing based on discussion above that it's the lead that needs tidying up, rather the title (otherwise I would have relisted te RM). Andrewa ( talk) 01:21, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
From the article: "Despite its stay in the top ten in 1968, it's likely that the song reached most listeners by its inclusion on Lenny Kaye's Nuggets compilation (note: song isn't on that album, but appears on the Rhino box). " OK. Aside from the other issues already raised about this article (it seems to me, also, that the Human Beinz took an Isley Brothers riff and made something new (rock-and-roll) of it) the statement "the song reached most listeners" by its inclusion on some later compilation is amusing to those who danced to the "no no no no" and learned the guitar solo note for note in the '60's. Wikipedia should avoid this sort of time-centric POV statements. It is clearly original research and POV to say that everyone heard the song when you did. 24.27.31.170 ( talk) 18:01, 14 August 2011 (UTC) Eric
The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain t/ c 15:22, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Nobody but Me (The Isley Brothers song) → Nobody but Me (The Human Beinz song) – Perhaps I'm wrong, but do we not name the titles of songs by the artist's version that was most notable? The Human Beinz's version is clearly the most notable in this case. Hoops gza ( talk) 22:45, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Whether or not the second proposed move above goes ahead, the section Other versions should clearly set out which are versions of the original, and which of the Beinz version. Will work on it. Andrewa ( talk) 17:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm... the George Thorogood version at http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Nobody-But-Me-lyrics-George-Thorogood-And-The-Destroyers/6FE8755EB97F0B0148257848002FAA6E (yes you do need the last level of that URL or it leads back to the index) does seem to be the Beinz version of the lyrics rather than the IB, as our article currently [1] says.
Note also that a former IB member is Jimi Hendrix. What with this and, even more significantly, 22 charting singles from 1962 to 2001 and 20 charting albums most recently in 2006, they are an important part of musical history. Andrewa ( talk) 17:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
IB lyrics at http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/the_isley_brothers/nobody_but_me.html and exactly as I remember them. It got lots of airplay in Oz in the 60s and still hits the occasional FM playlist here. Andrewa ( talk) 17:46, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
And of course see Nobody but Me for four more songs of that name, including Nobody but Me (Blake Shelton song) and another recorded by Lou Rawls, both of them available as ringtones which indicates some degree of fame. And there are stll others that have received some Oz airplay over the last half century or so! It's a predictable title, with probably thousands of unrecorded lovesongs by that name penned by unknown lovestruck minstrels over the years. Andrewa ( talk) 17:54, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Is it really noteworthy that Dave Marsh counted all the times "no" and "nobody" occur in the song? And does anyone really care that he makes a ridiculous claim of "most negative" song simply by counting what becomes, in effect, a nonsense syllable? Surely this is not noteworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.62.214 ( talk) 04:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Who sang lead on the Human Beinz version? OlyDLG ( talk) 19:05, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Removed 3 claims from the article. The number of "no"s wasn't supported by reference, ergo WP:OR. The Human Beinz version was described and listed as Garage Rock. The only cited supporting reference wasn't WP:RS, so it was removed, as well as the claims. The claim that the Human Beinz only used part of the Isley version wasn't supported by refs, and didn't sound that way to me. Since my OR is as good as anyone's, all claims and counterclaims are now out. Tapered ( talk) 02:44, 23 September 2018 (UTC)