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Very nice article, I must say. It's really nice to see smaller languages being described so well and thoroughly. A few comments:
Peter Isotalo 23:16, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
— mark ✎ 13:00, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
There is a section on stress and tone now, but I have the feeling that it reads a little awkward. Maybe it is too detailed, or maybe there are EAL-issues or something. Feel free to tinker with it. — mark ✎ 20:40, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- This is indeed one of the best-written linguistics related articles I've seen on Wiki, especially since it's about a lesser known but venerable language. I don't have comments about its specifics because I haven't actually studied Nobiin, but I sure hope it gets featured. - Zerida 08:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I added a website link: http://napata.org/language.html Although the website is called Napata, is this data on Nobiin? The form for 10 is dime which is Nobiin versus dimini which is Dongolawi and Kenuzi. This is why I added z to the list of phonemes. Imperial78
BTW, I have revamped the phoneme tables and added some notes on the occurrence of [z] and other sounds that were not originally part of Nobiin's phoneme inventory. — mark ✎ 12:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Nubians. The observation (in the summary section) "Many Nobiin speaking Nubians were forced to relocate in 1963-1964 due ..." may be moved to Nubians Article Stub. Reference to that fact may be shown in Geography. (BTW, "Korosko in the North" is not shown on the map). -- Connection 11:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Lexical Stock. Is there comparative research investigating influence of Arabic, or Coptic languages (especially pre-medieval period, concurretnly with adoption of the latter's alphabet)? Or Beja, for that matter.
There is reference here and in the Nubian languages article to "the extended SESCO system" of Arabic transcription. I have been looking for info on this and wonder if ISESCO ( Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) is intended instead? They sponsored some work on extended Arabic orthographies.-- A12n 20:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Im originally Sudanese(from Nubia aka "Halfa"). My parents always speak the "Nobiin" language so I was able to understand many of the words but I am unfortunately not fluent in my tribal language. I was wndering if you know of any books that would be of assistance in learning this language. It would be great if you could refer me to any sources. Thanks!
This article received its Good Article rating on 4 February 2006 from an editor who hearkened back to a kinder, gentler era when it was not outside of norms to just simply plonk down a Good Article tag for no other reason than WP:ILIKEIT. Alas, the standards for retaining this pretty green trinket have tightened over the year; in the present regime, someone unassociated with writing this article (a reviewer) should examine the article with respect to the good article criteria and, on the various standards cited, expresses up, down, or neutral sentiments, plus an aggregate sentiment, upon which retaining the pretty little trinket relies. By posting this remark here, I'm not suggesting that the article has gone bad or presently fails the criteria, but I am noting the absence of a review that is a hallmark of the present process, and, in the fullness of time, a review should be performed on this article. With the absence of a review, this article is a delisting candidate. Note that, for an editor to delist this article, the due-diligence of a good article review is required so that specific reasons for delisting can be given by the dislisting editor; anything short of that is unfair to editors who contribute to this article regularly and in good faith. Drop any questions about this on my talk page. Take care — Gosgood 13:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
hi im nubian from egypt and i never heard anyone call our dialect "nobiin", im not sure how to write it in english but its kinda like fidjica, so we call ourselves fidjicawiya.-- 195.229.235.41 ( talk) 20:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The list is missing a lot of references and may not meet the GA criteria anymore. The history section is completely unreferenced and many others as well.-- Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 19:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Nobiin language/1.
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Nobiin language/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article is a GA already. -- Meno25 01:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 01:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 01:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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In the subsection Vowels in section Phonology, example forms like bálé seem to directly contradict the legal phonotactics rules listed right above. Can someone address this? Is this a typo, or is the phonotactics wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.118.173.88 ( talk) 03:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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Very nice article, I must say. It's really nice to see smaller languages being described so well and thoroughly. A few comments:
Peter Isotalo 23:16, May 7, 2005 (UTC)
— mark ✎ 13:00, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
There is a section on stress and tone now, but I have the feeling that it reads a little awkward. Maybe it is too detailed, or maybe there are EAL-issues or something. Feel free to tinker with it. — mark ✎ 20:40, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- This is indeed one of the best-written linguistics related articles I've seen on Wiki, especially since it's about a lesser known but venerable language. I don't have comments about its specifics because I haven't actually studied Nobiin, but I sure hope it gets featured. - Zerida 08:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I added a website link: http://napata.org/language.html Although the website is called Napata, is this data on Nobiin? The form for 10 is dime which is Nobiin versus dimini which is Dongolawi and Kenuzi. This is why I added z to the list of phonemes. Imperial78
BTW, I have revamped the phoneme tables and added some notes on the occurrence of [z] and other sounds that were not originally part of Nobiin's phoneme inventory. — mark ✎ 12:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Nubians. The observation (in the summary section) "Many Nobiin speaking Nubians were forced to relocate in 1963-1964 due ..." may be moved to Nubians Article Stub. Reference to that fact may be shown in Geography. (BTW, "Korosko in the North" is not shown on the map). -- Connection 11:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Lexical Stock. Is there comparative research investigating influence of Arabic, or Coptic languages (especially pre-medieval period, concurretnly with adoption of the latter's alphabet)? Or Beja, for that matter.
There is reference here and in the Nubian languages article to "the extended SESCO system" of Arabic transcription. I have been looking for info on this and wonder if ISESCO ( Islamic Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) is intended instead? They sponsored some work on extended Arabic orthographies.-- A12n 20:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Im originally Sudanese(from Nubia aka "Halfa"). My parents always speak the "Nobiin" language so I was able to understand many of the words but I am unfortunately not fluent in my tribal language. I was wndering if you know of any books that would be of assistance in learning this language. It would be great if you could refer me to any sources. Thanks!
This article received its Good Article rating on 4 February 2006 from an editor who hearkened back to a kinder, gentler era when it was not outside of norms to just simply plonk down a Good Article tag for no other reason than WP:ILIKEIT. Alas, the standards for retaining this pretty green trinket have tightened over the year; in the present regime, someone unassociated with writing this article (a reviewer) should examine the article with respect to the good article criteria and, on the various standards cited, expresses up, down, or neutral sentiments, plus an aggregate sentiment, upon which retaining the pretty little trinket relies. By posting this remark here, I'm not suggesting that the article has gone bad or presently fails the criteria, but I am noting the absence of a review that is a hallmark of the present process, and, in the fullness of time, a review should be performed on this article. With the absence of a review, this article is a delisting candidate. Note that, for an editor to delist this article, the due-diligence of a good article review is required so that specific reasons for delisting can be given by the dislisting editor; anything short of that is unfair to editors who contribute to this article regularly and in good faith. Drop any questions about this on my talk page. Take care — Gosgood 13:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
hi im nubian from egypt and i never heard anyone call our dialect "nobiin", im not sure how to write it in english but its kinda like fidjica, so we call ourselves fidjicawiya.-- 195.229.235.41 ( talk) 20:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The list is missing a lot of references and may not meet the GA criteria anymore. The history section is completely unreferenced and many others as well.-- Diaa abdelmoneim ( talk) 19:21, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Nobiin language/1.
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Nobiin language/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
This article is a GA already. -- Meno25 01:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 01:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 01:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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In the subsection Vowels in section Phonology, example forms like bálé seem to directly contradict the legal phonotactics rules listed right above. Can someone address this? Is this a typo, or is the phonotactics wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.118.173.88 ( talk) 03:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)