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"The Uniform Crime Reporting Handbook used in compiling statistics, explicitly defines "forcible rape" as "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." It goes on to state "'Against her will' includes instances in which the victim is incapable of giving consent because of her temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity (or because of her youth)."[10]" So the clarification of "against her will" is irrelevant to the topic of the page, unless the rape was forcible? Ninahexan ( talk) 01:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I know, the explanation about "against her will" merely explains what rape is, though as far as I can tell forcible carnal knowledge of a female would be rape anyway. Ninahexan ( talk) 02:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC) What I mean is that the way it is stated here suggests that the against her will thing somehow qualifies as forcible rape, where the definition said that it needs to be forcible AND against her will. This means that if the rape was not forcible, yet still against her will, it would not technically be forcible rape. The "and" in the definition should be highlighted somehow. Ninahexan ( talk) 02:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I am not signed in, though I commented earlier. What I was concerned about is that the last part of the page might lead people to think that the definition of forcible rape was forcible carnal knowledge OR sex against will, while it is important to know that in the context of the proposed bill both would need to be present. It is disconcerting that this area of law needs debate. A minor might not need to be physically forced to engage in sex due to their undeveloped mind, whereas an adult faced with a similar predator might require physical coercion. I don't think anything should be removed from the page, I think it should be made explicit what protections are being removed by the proposed amendment. 203.158.44.83 ( talk) 10:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC) Apart from the semantics related to what constitutes forcible rape (because rape itself is not enough) is that the title of this page is a misnomer, since it would not eliminate taxpayers finding abortions. The title that I have seen in most other spheres is HR3, which is how it is referred to when linked to this page. I am waiting for an act titled- No taxpayer funding of the death penalty. 203.158.44.83 ( talk) 13:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The last part of this article reads like a promotion for Florida's Debbie Wasserman. Did she write the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.143.44 ( talk) 14:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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The article gives the impression this bill only existed in 2011, but in Googling the name "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act" I'm seeing that it was also brought up in subsequent years, most recently 2015. Can someone who is knowledgeable add updated info to the article? ElsaObuchowski ( talk) 19:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
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"The Uniform Crime Reporting Handbook used in compiling statistics, explicitly defines "forcible rape" as "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." It goes on to state "'Against her will' includes instances in which the victim is incapable of giving consent because of her temporary or permanent mental or physical incapacity (or because of her youth)."[10]" So the clarification of "against her will" is irrelevant to the topic of the page, unless the rape was forcible? Ninahexan ( talk) 01:14, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I know, the explanation about "against her will" merely explains what rape is, though as far as I can tell forcible carnal knowledge of a female would be rape anyway. Ninahexan ( talk) 02:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC) What I mean is that the way it is stated here suggests that the against her will thing somehow qualifies as forcible rape, where the definition said that it needs to be forcible AND against her will. This means that if the rape was not forcible, yet still against her will, it would not technically be forcible rape. The "and" in the definition should be highlighted somehow. Ninahexan ( talk) 02:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
I am not signed in, though I commented earlier. What I was concerned about is that the last part of the page might lead people to think that the definition of forcible rape was forcible carnal knowledge OR sex against will, while it is important to know that in the context of the proposed bill both would need to be present. It is disconcerting that this area of law needs debate. A minor might not need to be physically forced to engage in sex due to their undeveloped mind, whereas an adult faced with a similar predator might require physical coercion. I don't think anything should be removed from the page, I think it should be made explicit what protections are being removed by the proposed amendment. 203.158.44.83 ( talk) 10:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC) Apart from the semantics related to what constitutes forcible rape (because rape itself is not enough) is that the title of this page is a misnomer, since it would not eliminate taxpayers finding abortions. The title that I have seen in most other spheres is HR3, which is how it is referred to when linked to this page. I am waiting for an act titled- No taxpayer funding of the death penalty. 203.158.44.83 ( talk) 13:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The last part of this article reads like a promotion for Florida's Debbie Wasserman. Did she write the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.143.44 ( talk) 14:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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The article gives the impression this bill only existed in 2011, but in Googling the name "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act" I'm seeing that it was also brought up in subsequent years, most recently 2015. Can someone who is knowledgeable add updated info to the article? ElsaObuchowski ( talk) 19:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)