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To whomever reviews this article. While I normally would not reference posts to a forum, I feel that since Phil himself wrote the messages, they are not the usual unreliable forum messages. CarpetCrawler ( talk) 01:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Phil eventually recanted his recollection that the "rat race" version of TMWTH ended up in the film "Easy Money". Here's the text of his post, he was apparently caught out by a fan:
"RAT RACE...of course you're completely right again with this....NOT easy money (though I think I was asked)....but Yes for the Miami Vice bit.."Life is a Rat Race chasing easy money"....my limbs are weak etc......."
This was from the "7th December 2004" entry in Messages from Phil in the official forum. MaxVolume ( talk) 20:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to copy edit this article, as well as put a few suggestionms here. Interested editors can then edit the article in accordance with these suggestions, or as they see fit.
I see you add references after commas. This is OK, but some people think it cuts down the readability of the article. If the issues being sourced are not controversial you could move the refs to the end of the sentence. It's not a big issue though, feel free to disregard the suggestion.
The production section contains a lot of information unrelated to the production. This includes information on singles sales, MTV, music videos and popular culture issues.
Move the info unrelated to production to more appropriate sections of the article or make new sections suitable for it. I do suggest you make a section specifically for music videos. The popular culture info could be moved to a legacy/influence section.
This is good
"and his success with Genesis having their highest selling album and Invisible Touch: The Tour". - Could do with some sourcing. Done Removed it. It was a pointless add-on, anyway.
Good
This doesn't include the fact that Robert Plant was unimpressed by Collins 86.143.70.76 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
More info needed if possible.
You should deal with this section last
OK, let me know when that is resolved and I will give it a further look. I work in layers. Sorry for this long delay BTW. — Realist 2 23:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, I have fixed all of your concerns. Feel free to take another look and tell me if it's FAC ready. :) CarpetCrawler ( talk) 16:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, I take a read of the article again in the next few days. — R 2 20:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I am in the process of fixing those deadlinks in the references that lead to Phil Collins' former forum. Please do not remove the references. Thank you! CarpetCrawler ( talk) 21:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't feel the lead is an accurate summary of the entire article. The lead should take the main points from every section (and sub sections) of the article (obviously not sections on the tracklisting and personnel), in the same order as the article. Info in the lead should be proportionate to how much it is covered in the article, but you can't miss sections out, just because they are small. Leads can be tricky to write, but follow this advise and you can't go too wrong.
OK, I've finished for now, after that, call me back, and we can go through reference formation. Best. — R 2 15:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
OK here is some feedback on formatting of references. It will likely be the most time consuming and boring aspect of getting the article to featured statues, but it must be done :(. It's best to try and complete all the points together, rather than doing each point individually, it will probably save you time. So read through everything before you begin. OK here are the points.
OK, if you need anything please ping me and let me know when all this is done. Good luck, and don't give up. It's worth it in the end. — R 2 19:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The "Long, Long Way To Go"/Sting section is completely wrong. Live Aid occurred four months after the release of the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.254.140 ( talk) 04:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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To whomever reviews this article. While I normally would not reference posts to a forum, I feel that since Phil himself wrote the messages, they are not the usual unreliable forum messages. CarpetCrawler ( talk) 01:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Phil eventually recanted his recollection that the "rat race" version of TMWTH ended up in the film "Easy Money". Here's the text of his post, he was apparently caught out by a fan:
"RAT RACE...of course you're completely right again with this....NOT easy money (though I think I was asked)....but Yes for the Miami Vice bit.."Life is a Rat Race chasing easy money"....my limbs are weak etc......."
This was from the "7th December 2004" entry in Messages from Phil in the official forum. MaxVolume ( talk) 20:38, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to copy edit this article, as well as put a few suggestionms here. Interested editors can then edit the article in accordance with these suggestions, or as they see fit.
I see you add references after commas. This is OK, but some people think it cuts down the readability of the article. If the issues being sourced are not controversial you could move the refs to the end of the sentence. It's not a big issue though, feel free to disregard the suggestion.
The production section contains a lot of information unrelated to the production. This includes information on singles sales, MTV, music videos and popular culture issues.
Move the info unrelated to production to more appropriate sections of the article or make new sections suitable for it. I do suggest you make a section specifically for music videos. The popular culture info could be moved to a legacy/influence section.
This is good
"and his success with Genesis having their highest selling album and Invisible Touch: The Tour". - Could do with some sourcing. Done Removed it. It was a pointless add-on, anyway.
Good
This doesn't include the fact that Robert Plant was unimpressed by Collins 86.143.70.76 ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
More info needed if possible.
You should deal with this section last
OK, let me know when that is resolved and I will give it a further look. I work in layers. Sorry for this long delay BTW. — Realist 2 23:10, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, I have fixed all of your concerns. Feel free to take another look and tell me if it's FAC ready. :) CarpetCrawler ( talk) 16:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
OK, I take a read of the article again in the next few days. — R 2 20:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
I am in the process of fixing those deadlinks in the references that lead to Phil Collins' former forum. Please do not remove the references. Thank you! CarpetCrawler ( talk) 21:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't feel the lead is an accurate summary of the entire article. The lead should take the main points from every section (and sub sections) of the article (obviously not sections on the tracklisting and personnel), in the same order as the article. Info in the lead should be proportionate to how much it is covered in the article, but you can't miss sections out, just because they are small. Leads can be tricky to write, but follow this advise and you can't go too wrong.
OK, I've finished for now, after that, call me back, and we can go through reference formation. Best. — R 2 15:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
OK here is some feedback on formatting of references. It will likely be the most time consuming and boring aspect of getting the article to featured statues, but it must be done :(. It's best to try and complete all the points together, rather than doing each point individually, it will probably save you time. So read through everything before you begin. OK here are the points.
OK, if you need anything please ping me and let me know when all this is done. Good luck, and don't give up. It's worth it in the end. — R 2 19:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The "Long, Long Way To Go"/Sting section is completely wrong. Live Aid occurred four months after the release of the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.132.254.140 ( talk) 04:40, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
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