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Some time before(1yr or so) i can read one more synthetic rote to N2O
2NaNO2 + 2S =(Reaction in formamide(possible DMF also suitable) giving 100% yield after 30mins at 80C)=> N2O + Na2S2O3
Even when(if) stupid users(f.e. goverment controllers censores prohibiting even classics of Russian literature now, and nitrogen oxides too) of other coutries Wikipedias can(allows) erase reactions for fun "because of "no info-sources mentioned"" - you must not(nope you never did) never loose painkillers(preparing rote and so) - even in cosmic space — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamJiva ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC) ?(didn't understand, what problems with signature, when i am logged in as IamJiva(i can see it red colour(?) nick name ir upper right screen coner) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamJiva ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
"Recreational users often misperceive nitrous oxide as a route to a "safe high", and are unaware of its potential for causing neurological damage." I think there are some problems with this. We are saying the same thing twice for a start, and what are the quotes for? Are they scare quotes? Worst of all, are we saying in Wikipedia's voice that nitrous is not a relatively safe way to get high? There is no absolute safety in life, but I know if I heard my teenage daughter had tried nitrous I would be far less worried than if she had tried methamphetamine or regularly drank alcohol, or smoked tobacco. My opinion is not entirely an uninformed one; I am influenced by my knowledge of e.g. Nutt et all, 2007 in which nitrous is not even mentioned. Indeed, given that it is still widely used in a clinical setting, this makes sense. We need to take a nuanced position that matches the sources. Do we? John ( talk) 12:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
After all the information about toxicity, the properties section describes N2O as non-toxic. And this is what appears in the Googl extract PhysicistQuery ( talk) 11:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Basically the subject line. I'm wondering if this article is locked for some reason. I'm trying to update the "Recreational Use" section to specify that the potential for neurotoxicity requires long-term extended use (generally >= multiple months of heavy daily use) not just a single occurrence of excessive use AND is caused by Vitamin B-12 deficiency NOT the N2O directly itself. How it's currently written is both scientifically inaccurate and reads kinda like pro-drug war propaganda.
My edit would have been ↓
"excessive use for an excessive period (generally multiple months or longer) has the potential to cause neurological harm through causing Vitamin B12 deficiency which, if left untreated (using external B12 supplementation and ideally abstinence as well), can result in permanent neurological damage." Cooe ( talk) 00:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
There is no mention of the fact that experiencing nitrous oxide’s euphoric effects were the original intended use. The possible medical applications followed shortly after an early tester inhaled the gas. Experienced a minor accident but felt no pain. pretty fascinating stuff.
source: https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajplung.00206.2014 Mkips ( talk) 02:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
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Some time before(1yr or so) i can read one more synthetic rote to N2O
2NaNO2 + 2S =(Reaction in formamide(possible DMF also suitable) giving 100% yield after 30mins at 80C)=> N2O + Na2S2O3
Even when(if) stupid users(f.e. goverment controllers censores prohibiting even classics of Russian literature now, and nitrogen oxides too) of other coutries Wikipedias can(allows) erase reactions for fun "because of "no info-sources mentioned"" - you must not(nope you never did) never loose painkillers(preparing rote and so) - even in cosmic space — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamJiva ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 9 November 2021 (UTC) ?(didn't understand, what problems with signature, when i am logged in as IamJiva(i can see it red colour(?) nick name ir upper right screen coner) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamJiva ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
"Recreational users often misperceive nitrous oxide as a route to a "safe high", and are unaware of its potential for causing neurological damage." I think there are some problems with this. We are saying the same thing twice for a start, and what are the quotes for? Are they scare quotes? Worst of all, are we saying in Wikipedia's voice that nitrous is not a relatively safe way to get high? There is no absolute safety in life, but I know if I heard my teenage daughter had tried nitrous I would be far less worried than if she had tried methamphetamine or regularly drank alcohol, or smoked tobacco. My opinion is not entirely an uninformed one; I am influenced by my knowledge of e.g. Nutt et all, 2007 in which nitrous is not even mentioned. Indeed, given that it is still widely used in a clinical setting, this makes sense. We need to take a nuanced position that matches the sources. Do we? John ( talk) 12:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
After all the information about toxicity, the properties section describes N2O as non-toxic. And this is what appears in the Googl extract PhysicistQuery ( talk) 11:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Basically the subject line. I'm wondering if this article is locked for some reason. I'm trying to update the "Recreational Use" section to specify that the potential for neurotoxicity requires long-term extended use (generally >= multiple months of heavy daily use) not just a single occurrence of excessive use AND is caused by Vitamin B-12 deficiency NOT the N2O directly itself. How it's currently written is both scientifically inaccurate and reads kinda like pro-drug war propaganda.
My edit would have been ↓
"excessive use for an excessive period (generally multiple months or longer) has the potential to cause neurological harm through causing Vitamin B12 deficiency which, if left untreated (using external B12 supplementation and ideally abstinence as well), can result in permanent neurological damage." Cooe ( talk) 00:37, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
There is no mention of the fact that experiencing nitrous oxide’s euphoric effects were the original intended use. The possible medical applications followed shortly after an early tester inhaled the gas. Experienced a minor accident but felt no pain. pretty fascinating stuff.
source: https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajplung.00206.2014 Mkips ( talk) 02:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)