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The following debate was regarding whether the Nitroglycerin article should include step by step guidelines for synthesising the chemical.
Many editors wanted the content removed due to its dangerous nature. Some feared the consequenses of making the content available to criminals (terrorists, in particular), while others were concerned for innocent (mainly young) people that might be tempted to follow the instructions and as a result, seriously harming themselves.
The opposite side maintained that removing the information violated the official policy that Wikipedia is not censored.
Every now and then new users would drop by and add their voice to the censoring side, but nothing new came up that would challenge the official policy on censorship.
The Gordian knot was finally hewn asunder when User:Cacycle brought another Wikipedia official policy into the debate, which stating that Wikipedia was not an instruction manual. The user furthermore suggested that synthesis instructions could be linked to in the "External links" section.
In the end, the content was removed, retouched and made into a wikibook, whereto the the preparation section of this article now points.
Does the home-preparation section belong on Wikipedia? I'd say it'd be more at home on Wikibooks. GeeJo (t) (c) • 09:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC) are u sure we should say how to make this stuff?it could be an easy resource for terrorists making bombs or anything like that?
Although the chemicals are not readily available, do the preperation instructions really belong on Wikipedia? It seems like it was wrote with the intent to be used. Anybody Agree?
rvictory
I agree. These chemicals are really not that difficult to get a hold of. I used all of them quite frequently in first year university . I don't think Wikipedia should be provinding such specific instructions on how to make explosives. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.128.232.71 ( talk • contribs) 17:00, 8 April 2006.
Yeah, I agree. I don't think the explicit synthesis is appropriate in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.58.24.129 ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 25 April 2006.
Even if terroists don't use it, you don't want fools blowing themselves up. Also, if someone actually needed it for practical use, they would buy it from manufacturers. Who would actually need that recipe? I think it should be removed. Yanwen 16:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with 129.97.233.90. If you have knowledge of the chemistry behind this synthesis then you will realize just how extremely dangerous this approach to making nitroglycerine is. Also, in a chemistry lab at a university (which is where the synthesis is supposed to be carried out, I'm sure) any experiment requiring a quantity of nitrogylcerine would purchase the finished product from a supplier, not synthesize it on location. Use your common sense, and move the synthesis part to somewhere else. I'm sure anyone that regularly contributes to chem articles on wikipedia will agree with me. 69.157.27.252 18:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you think it would be smart to add a "synthesis" section to Methamphetamine with a list of ingredients and instructions on its production? The answer is no, and if you did, it would be promptly removed by any other Wikipedian for obvious reasons. I suggest you get a moderator to decide whether the synthesis instructions for nitroglycerine belong in Wikipedia or maybe it would be more at home somewhere else, such as the Anarchist's Cookbook. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.97.233.90 ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if "do not try this at home" is strong enough, maybe mention that even professionals have been killed/injured by nitroglycerin? raptor 04:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe the synthesis should be removed in case a citizen who does not abide the law uses this formula, disasterous things could happen. Wikipedian27 17:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
The following debate was regarding whether the Nitroglycerin article should include step by step guidelines for synthesising the chemical.
Many editors wanted the content removed due to its dangerous nature. Some feared the consequenses of making the content available to criminals (terrorists, in particular), while others were concerned for innocent (mainly young) people that might be tempted to follow the instructions and as a result, seriously harming themselves.
The opposite side maintained that removing the information violated the official policy that Wikipedia is not censored.
Every now and then new users would drop by and add their voice to the censoring side, but nothing new came up that would challenge the official policy on censorship.
The Gordian knot was finally hewn asunder when User:Cacycle brought another Wikipedia official policy into the debate, which stating that Wikipedia was not an instruction manual. The user furthermore suggested that synthesis instructions could be linked to in the "External links" section.
In the end, the content was removed, retouched and made into a wikibook, whereto the the preparation section of this article now points.
Does the home-preparation section belong on Wikipedia? I'd say it'd be more at home on Wikibooks. GeeJo (t) (c) • 09:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC) are u sure we should say how to make this stuff?it could be an easy resource for terrorists making bombs or anything like that?
Although the chemicals are not readily available, do the preperation instructions really belong on Wikipedia? It seems like it was wrote with the intent to be used. Anybody Agree?
rvictory
I agree. These chemicals are really not that difficult to get a hold of. I used all of them quite frequently in first year university . I don't think Wikipedia should be provinding such specific instructions on how to make explosives. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.128.232.71 ( talk • contribs) 17:00, 8 April 2006.
Yeah, I agree. I don't think the explicit synthesis is appropriate in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.58.24.129 ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 25 April 2006.
Even if terroists don't use it, you don't want fools blowing themselves up. Also, if someone actually needed it for practical use, they would buy it from manufacturers. Who would actually need that recipe? I think it should be removed. Yanwen 16:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with 129.97.233.90. If you have knowledge of the chemistry behind this synthesis then you will realize just how extremely dangerous this approach to making nitroglycerine is. Also, in a chemistry lab at a university (which is where the synthesis is supposed to be carried out, I'm sure) any experiment requiring a quantity of nitrogylcerine would purchase the finished product from a supplier, not synthesize it on location. Use your common sense, and move the synthesis part to somewhere else. I'm sure anyone that regularly contributes to chem articles on wikipedia will agree with me. 69.157.27.252 18:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you think it would be smart to add a "synthesis" section to Methamphetamine with a list of ingredients and instructions on its production? The answer is no, and if you did, it would be promptly removed by any other Wikipedian for obvious reasons. I suggest you get a moderator to decide whether the synthesis instructions for nitroglycerine belong in Wikipedia or maybe it would be more at home somewhere else, such as the Anarchist's Cookbook. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.97.233.90 ( talk • contribs) 09:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if "do not try this at home" is strong enough, maybe mention that even professionals have been killed/injured by nitroglycerin? raptor 04:59, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I believe the synthesis should be removed in case a citizen who does not abide the law uses this formula, disasterous things could happen. Wikipedian27 17:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)