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This image is a good Photoshop job. However, the two pictures chosen to combine sex bing bijeaux homosexuality seine dommage aro milk absorbat male for American or thea noor, porno bague bijeaux transexuality poitrine dammage ard milk transpirator female for Germany or coffe dynamique the rail thin woman where her ribs are seen, and the large breasts of a healthy woman, were poorly chosen. One can tell it is image-editing by the angle of the chest above the breasts. Also suspicious is the lightness of the arms by the edge of the breasts where there should be shadow. I'm going to find a better photo that is not edited. • Joanna 13:47 EST 2 January 2021 —Preceding comment was added at 18:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Joana - You are incorrect in several of your assumptions. First, it is not two photographs of two women, but the same woman. Second, she is not "rail thin", and you implication that she is not "healthy" is also incorrect. She is tremendously healthy, and is in fact a "health nut", in both diet and exercise. I have several other pictures of her that i would be glad to post in this discussion. As she is a great example of this subject, I think it would be somewhat "personal bias" to remove the photo. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beachnut4 ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
This work doesn't suggest that some gay men pierced their nipples before straight celebrities embraced it. On a documentary about piercing on MTV, a man said many people assume he's gay because his nipples are pierced. Paul Rutherford, an openly gay singer of Frankie Goes to Hollywood posed with his pierce nipple in the early 1980s years before it became trendy in straight circles. Is there a non-homophobic way to bring this up in this Wikipedia entry? Maybe it's different in other countries, but I'd say gay men were doing it before others in the USA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chumley41 ( talk • contribs) 22:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I've already removed the aftercare and how-to information from this page, unless someone has a major objection, I'm going to re-format it to be in line with the layout of the majority of other body piercing related pages. Glowimperial 21:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it funny to look at the picture of a hairy (male, I suppose) nipple right besides the heading about breastfeeding? This is only noticeable on big screens with small characters but what will the future generations will think of us as screen size will surely increase and human hair will maybe decrease, even disappear? In a few years or centuries, wouldn't it be a little misleading? Josie dethiers 09:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I came to this page wondering why anyone would want to get a nipple piecing. I can understand motives for almost all the others, but nipple piercings just seem pointless. -- 24.239.174.223 23:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I came here looking for some history on nipple piercings such as Roman gaurds or... Victorian women... rumors? I don't know, perhaps a nipple piercing historian could stop by here and spruce it up.
143.229.182.13 02:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC) AlRod
ha tildes.
I have added 2 sections about that because it seems to be very special for this kind of piercing and often overlooked. Women not taking hormonal contraception have it relatively easy to recognise the effect - prolonged periods, irregular cycles or galactorhea can be signs of light/beginning hyperprolactinemia. Men (and women taking hormonal contraception) will typically not see any early warning signs. Seems to be highly individual, YMMV. Some precautionary prolactin tests will not hurt. Richiez 09:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Should not sound alarmist. Little is known about percentages of people who get it but I believe that a light hyperprolactinemia following nipple piercings is very common - definitely more than 10%. How much of that develop into serious problems has never been studied. The reason I wanted to have it here is because awareness is very low.. show me the studio that tells you that nipple piercing will stimulate prolactin. It may be possible to prevent this kind of problems by using Vitex Agnus Castus extract or testing prolactin levels. Richiez 19:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I've removed a section regarding health concerns. While the information may be correct, the citations are not. Please see WP:CITE to see how to correctly cite references. If they are cited correctly, it can be put back in.
This is the section I removed:
Feel free to clean it up and put it back. -- pIrish Arr! 20:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
It would really help if you could give a hint why you consider the citations incorrect. I could guess but I am not into mind reading. I did read the citation guide Richiez 19:27, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Harvard style citations are allowed and use of citations templates is neither required nor useful for this citation style. So I am guessing you object that there were 2 different citation styles mixed on the page? Or something else? Richiez 08:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
This is getting lengthier than I expected and maybe we should continue the discussion in another place as it is getting slightly unrelated to this article?
The templates don't look bad. Otoh if you consider use of templates mandatory then think about fixing Wikipedia:Harvard_referencing which says "There is no requirement or recommendation to use citation or footnote templates in Wikipedia, and many editors find them unhelpful and distracting.". Automatically deleting citations which are compliant to official policy would be a very bad idea.
Regarding this case, is it acceptable to use Harvard referencing? What else is the problem? Richiez 18:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding "stronly encouraged": that does still considerably contradict the text which I quoted earlier.
I am not (and never was) strongly against templates but was trying to figure out why you deleted my text in the first place given that I considered my citation style perfectly appropriate fo WP.
After looking at the harvard citation templates I think they are quite sane but don't help me very much compared to plain text.
What I consider extremely messy is the footnote style referencing where reference entries are scattered throughout the whole article. You need to search all sections to figure out where a particular reference is defined and references get accidentally removed very easilly. Furthermore even someone frequently proofreading an article is easilly confused if the footnote references are renumbered which happens fairly often in the WP.
For me the ideal citation system has this:
- Richiez 17:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the footnote issues:
Richiez 13:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
The 'trivia' section mentions a small group of popular, mainstream artists, and their 'association' with nipple piercing. It is loosely accurate at best, and frankly seems to seek to validate said piercing by association. Surely there is more interesting trivia about nipple piercing, otherwise this section must be removed in its entirety. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.160.62 ( talk) 10:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I Agree. My girlfriend sports 4 piercings (nipple, tongue, navel and labret) and has never set any alarm off at any airport. All that thing about Nicole Ritchie sounds like a concoction or, at best, urban legend. John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.46.44.3 ( talk) 10:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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While I agree with most of the page's content, only one thing (that doesn't have to do with famous people) is sourced, so I have added refimprove templates. I also removed one source due to its self-published nature.-- Flash176 ( talk) 19:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
What exactly would you like to see verified? What's in doubt?-- Lamilli ( talk) 19:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
"Christina Aguilera had all her piercings removed, including her left nipple, keeping only her right nipple piercing." She's had them all removed? Or she's had all but one removed? This sentence actually made my head hurt.-- Jclaggett ( talk) 09:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, this is a paysite. Do we really need to promote these people?
i work in a research unit at the University of Western Australia and we have recently published an article in which we detail 3 women that we have seen that have had problems breastfeeding after a nipple piercing. Many websites state that there is no problems, but we have evidence that strongly suggests that there may be problems. Women need to be aware of this potiential problem if they are considering nipple piercing. Jane66 ( talk) 11:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The document in question is a research letter reviewing 3 cases, not a research article. (And having to pay isn't a verifiability issue, take a walk to your local university medical library instead. Even my local city library has JAMA.) The letter clearly doesn't make hasty conclusions, with language like this: "We present 3 patients with lactation difficulties suggesting that nipple piercings can lead to complications". There are no claims to have made a full research study, nor do they claim any absoute link. They can be accused of being vague, but hardly of jumping the gun. Hairhorn ( talk) 17:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to start a Wikiproject on Body Modification, if anyone wants to join go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Body_Modification ScarTissueBloodBlister ( talk) 02:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I've been looking, and I can't find any credible sources for the assertions that women wore necklines that reveled their nipples, or that Queen Isabeau wore a nipple ring. Its seems highly unlikely to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_piercing#Body_piercing_folklore gives an uncited mention to the Book "Dreamtime" by Hans Peter Duerr which appears to be a history of witchcraft. That article seems to take a much more secptical view of the idea than this one. Should the two be reconciled? 69.115.19.58 ( talk) 06:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
{{
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help) This is a significant problem because
Eduard Fuchs was not an historian, he was a radical activist who was writing propaganda to attack the upper classes. --
202.63.39.58 (
talk)
06:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I reverted the recent change to the healing time for these piercings, as they went against the published paper from a reputable source. My edit summary was a little harsh, but it's still mostly true. Anything less than a medically published paper (or better) is going to be less reliable than what's already there. I will assume it was changed because you have to log in to the site to see the paper. Keep in mind though, that sources don't have to be readily accessible pages on internet. If it's in a book, peer-reviewed journal, or printed paper, it is still considered reliable, and often more reliable than the vast majority of online material. ICYTIGER'SBLOOD 13:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
It seems that the source for the "Vogue" quote is unreliable: Vogue's first issue was 1892.
98.249.9.192 ( talk) 18:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to add that Axl Rose also has or used to have a nipple piercing. I feel like he should not be left out of the "Popular Wearers" section. I am pretty sure a lot of others are forgotten to, but I thought at least Axl Rose should be in there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.86.43.180 ( talk) 21:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
You claim that the new picture would be "much better" - I don't see in which way. Such huge rings are just not a typical exemplar.-- Lamilli ( talk) 08:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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This image is a good Photoshop job. However, the two pictures chosen to combine sex bing bijeaux homosexuality seine dommage aro milk absorbat male for American or thea noor, porno bague bijeaux transexuality poitrine dammage ard milk transpirator female for Germany or coffe dynamique the rail thin woman where her ribs are seen, and the large breasts of a healthy woman, were poorly chosen. One can tell it is image-editing by the angle of the chest above the breasts. Also suspicious is the lightness of the arms by the edge of the breasts where there should be shadow. I'm going to find a better photo that is not edited. • Joanna 13:47 EST 2 January 2021 —Preceding comment was added at 18:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Joana - You are incorrect in several of your assumptions. First, it is not two photographs of two women, but the same woman. Second, she is not "rail thin", and you implication that she is not "healthy" is also incorrect. She is tremendously healthy, and is in fact a "health nut", in both diet and exercise. I have several other pictures of her that i would be glad to post in this discussion. As she is a great example of this subject, I think it would be somewhat "personal bias" to remove the photo. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beachnut4 ( talk • contribs) 02:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
This work doesn't suggest that some gay men pierced their nipples before straight celebrities embraced it. On a documentary about piercing on MTV, a man said many people assume he's gay because his nipples are pierced. Paul Rutherford, an openly gay singer of Frankie Goes to Hollywood posed with his pierce nipple in the early 1980s years before it became trendy in straight circles. Is there a non-homophobic way to bring this up in this Wikipedia entry? Maybe it's different in other countries, but I'd say gay men were doing it before others in the USA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chumley41 ( talk • contribs) 22:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I've already removed the aftercare and how-to information from this page, unless someone has a major objection, I'm going to re-format it to be in line with the layout of the majority of other body piercing related pages. Glowimperial 21:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Isn't it funny to look at the picture of a hairy (male, I suppose) nipple right besides the heading about breastfeeding? This is only noticeable on big screens with small characters but what will the future generations will think of us as screen size will surely increase and human hair will maybe decrease, even disappear? In a few years or centuries, wouldn't it be a little misleading? Josie dethiers 09:42, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I came to this page wondering why anyone would want to get a nipple piecing. I can understand motives for almost all the others, but nipple piercings just seem pointless. -- 24.239.174.223 23:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I came here looking for some history on nipple piercings such as Roman gaurds or... Victorian women... rumors? I don't know, perhaps a nipple piercing historian could stop by here and spruce it up.
143.229.182.13 02:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC) AlRod
ha tildes.
I have added 2 sections about that because it seems to be very special for this kind of piercing and often overlooked. Women not taking hormonal contraception have it relatively easy to recognise the effect - prolonged periods, irregular cycles or galactorhea can be signs of light/beginning hyperprolactinemia. Men (and women taking hormonal contraception) will typically not see any early warning signs. Seems to be highly individual, YMMV. Some precautionary prolactin tests will not hurt. Richiez 09:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Should not sound alarmist. Little is known about percentages of people who get it but I believe that a light hyperprolactinemia following nipple piercings is very common - definitely more than 10%. How much of that develop into serious problems has never been studied. The reason I wanted to have it here is because awareness is very low.. show me the studio that tells you that nipple piercing will stimulate prolactin. It may be possible to prevent this kind of problems by using Vitex Agnus Castus extract or testing prolactin levels. Richiez 19:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
I've removed a section regarding health concerns. While the information may be correct, the citations are not. Please see WP:CITE to see how to correctly cite references. If they are cited correctly, it can be put back in.
This is the section I removed:
Feel free to clean it up and put it back. -- pIrish Arr! 20:53, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
It would really help if you could give a hint why you consider the citations incorrect. I could guess but I am not into mind reading. I did read the citation guide Richiez 19:27, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Harvard style citations are allowed and use of citations templates is neither required nor useful for this citation style. So I am guessing you object that there were 2 different citation styles mixed on the page? Or something else? Richiez 08:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
This is getting lengthier than I expected and maybe we should continue the discussion in another place as it is getting slightly unrelated to this article?
The templates don't look bad. Otoh if you consider use of templates mandatory then think about fixing Wikipedia:Harvard_referencing which says "There is no requirement or recommendation to use citation or footnote templates in Wikipedia, and many editors find them unhelpful and distracting.". Automatically deleting citations which are compliant to official policy would be a very bad idea.
Regarding this case, is it acceptable to use Harvard referencing? What else is the problem? Richiez 18:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding "stronly encouraged": that does still considerably contradict the text which I quoted earlier.
I am not (and never was) strongly against templates but was trying to figure out why you deleted my text in the first place given that I considered my citation style perfectly appropriate fo WP.
After looking at the harvard citation templates I think they are quite sane but don't help me very much compared to plain text.
What I consider extremely messy is the footnote style referencing where reference entries are scattered throughout the whole article. You need to search all sections to figure out where a particular reference is defined and references get accidentally removed very easilly. Furthermore even someone frequently proofreading an article is easilly confused if the footnote references are renumbered which happens fairly often in the WP.
For me the ideal citation system has this:
- Richiez 17:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the footnote issues:
Richiez 13:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
The 'trivia' section mentions a small group of popular, mainstream artists, and their 'association' with nipple piercing. It is loosely accurate at best, and frankly seems to seek to validate said piercing by association. Surely there is more interesting trivia about nipple piercing, otherwise this section must be removed in its entirety. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.160.62 ( talk) 10:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I Agree. My girlfriend sports 4 piercings (nipple, tongue, navel and labret) and has never set any alarm off at any airport. All that thing about Nicole Ritchie sounds like a concoction or, at best, urban legend. John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.46.44.3 ( talk) 10:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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While I agree with most of the page's content, only one thing (that doesn't have to do with famous people) is sourced, so I have added refimprove templates. I also removed one source due to its self-published nature.-- Flash176 ( talk) 19:53, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
What exactly would you like to see verified? What's in doubt?-- Lamilli ( talk) 19:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
"Christina Aguilera had all her piercings removed, including her left nipple, keeping only her right nipple piercing." She's had them all removed? Or she's had all but one removed? This sentence actually made my head hurt.-- Jclaggett ( talk) 09:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey, this is a paysite. Do we really need to promote these people?
i work in a research unit at the University of Western Australia and we have recently published an article in which we detail 3 women that we have seen that have had problems breastfeeding after a nipple piercing. Many websites state that there is no problems, but we have evidence that strongly suggests that there may be problems. Women need to be aware of this potiential problem if they are considering nipple piercing. Jane66 ( talk) 11:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The document in question is a research letter reviewing 3 cases, not a research article. (And having to pay isn't a verifiability issue, take a walk to your local university medical library instead. Even my local city library has JAMA.) The letter clearly doesn't make hasty conclusions, with language like this: "We present 3 patients with lactation difficulties suggesting that nipple piercings can lead to complications". There are no claims to have made a full research study, nor do they claim any absoute link. They can be accused of being vague, but hardly of jumping the gun. Hairhorn ( talk) 17:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm trying to start a Wikiproject on Body Modification, if anyone wants to join go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Body_Modification ScarTissueBloodBlister ( talk) 02:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I've been looking, and I can't find any credible sources for the assertions that women wore necklines that reveled their nipples, or that Queen Isabeau wore a nipple ring. Its seems highly unlikely to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_piercing#Body_piercing_folklore gives an uncited mention to the Book "Dreamtime" by Hans Peter Duerr which appears to be a history of witchcraft. That article seems to take a much more secptical view of the idea than this one. Should the two be reconciled? 69.115.19.58 ( talk) 06:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
{{
cite book}}
: Check |isbn=
value: invalid character (
help) This is a significant problem because
Eduard Fuchs was not an historian, he was a radical activist who was writing propaganda to attack the upper classes. --
202.63.39.58 (
talk)
06:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I reverted the recent change to the healing time for these piercings, as they went against the published paper from a reputable source. My edit summary was a little harsh, but it's still mostly true. Anything less than a medically published paper (or better) is going to be less reliable than what's already there. I will assume it was changed because you have to log in to the site to see the paper. Keep in mind though, that sources don't have to be readily accessible pages on internet. If it's in a book, peer-reviewed journal, or printed paper, it is still considered reliable, and often more reliable than the vast majority of online material. ICYTIGER'SBLOOD 13:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
It seems that the source for the "Vogue" quote is unreliable: Vogue's first issue was 1892.
98.249.9.192 ( talk) 18:51, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to add that Axl Rose also has or used to have a nipple piercing. I feel like he should not be left out of the "Popular Wearers" section. I am pretty sure a lot of others are forgotten to, but I thought at least Axl Rose should be in there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.86.43.180 ( talk) 21:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
You claim that the new picture would be "much better" - I don't see in which way. Such huge rings are just not a typical exemplar.-- Lamilli ( talk) 08:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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I have again removed the long lists of examples of people with these piercings. I have done this on two grounds: first, the sourcing was generally poor, with a mix of self-published, deprecated, and primary sources; second, there is no indication that the extensive list warrants inclusion. Please don't restore it without addressing these issues. Nikkimaria ( talk) 20:22, 17 April 2020 (UTC)