This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 |
There needs to be a consensus in this. While "colour" is more widely used to "color," we need to think of this in regard to the Nintendo DS Lite. It's been released in Japan, Australia, the United States, Canada, Europe, and the People's Republic of China. In my opinion, the word that should be used (color or colour) is the word that is the most wideley used within theses regions.-- The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 21:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Well to tell you the truth, my American friend actually believes colour is the correct spelling. It makes sense to me as well, because it's only really one country that uses the spelling color. Wikipedia is worldwide not one country, so it would be best to please the majority (which is the world) instead of the American population that reads this article. ps: the Wikipedia article on "color" is really stupid too. I mean come on, Vandalism? saying it's the word color is vandalism to the english language in my oppinion. -- 203.129.39.248 07:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
"Features a much sturdier hinge than the previous model, which was somewhat fragile." ... I bought one two weeks ago and the hinge on the left-hand side has already cracked. This problem has been reported elsewhere (http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8482).
The hinge is much sturdier, this very small amount of reports of a cracked hinge has so far has not had any negative effects on hinge sturdiness. It's not like that tiny small cosmetic crack is gonna let the whole unit fall apart. The hinge is much wider and sturdier that the DS's rather small hinge, which was fragile and recieved many more reports of cracked hinges. I'm removing that passage from the features section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) .
Hm, weren't there pictures of the diffent editions on here? were they removed for a reason? I thought about posting a selfmade pic of my black ds but when there are no others it feels weird SilentGuy 12:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
http://ds.ign.com/articles/720/720637p1.html
IGN has posted some sales figures. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 06:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Nintendo has released a press release stating that 21 million units have sold worldwide DS Sales Figures. This wiki currently lists the DS as having only sold 4.1 million. Can someone edit? -- Matdjj 09:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
As far as the actual text of the cracked hinge header, "criticism" is absolutely inappropriate. What does the text have to do with criticism? When I wrote the initial version of that section, the title read "Scandal." Now I'm perfectly willing to let someone rewrite the header, but the revision has to make some semblance of sense. How about "cracked hinge sightings"? Any objections? -- Stephenglassman 01:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
03:30, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
70.48.173.84 03:35, 30 July 2006
(UTC)
Here's a link to some pics of the end result of the cracked hinge: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/new-horrible-ds-lite-crack-193231.php Douglasr007 09:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
In the name of Nintendo, could someone edit the characteristics paragraph? It's one informative but terribly rambling monstrosity. Plus, the entire first half is written in reference to the the changes made as in reference to the DS, and I believe this is not a "changes from the original DS" section, but a paragraph on its own properties as they are. Kylara21 06:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion, the differences are very important and relevant. If they are not listed under characteristics should we make them a section? -- Matdjj 09:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
The "Cracked hinges" section reads as follows:
Those two paragraphs should probably be merged into one that's more accurately worded. -- Spug 19:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
That sections seems to have quite a bit of "if,but,maybe" and OR in it - needs a bit of a clean-up. --
Charlesknight
21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
In the article there is a quote as follows: "Finally, those same anecdotal sources have posited that the hinge is only stressed when the device is opened beyond the first detent to the second detent." Immediatly following there is another pragraph that starts with this: "There is a possible link between the cracked hinge issue and opening the DS Lite beyond its initial 'snap' point." I hate to break it to one of the authors here but the word 'detent' is a synonym for the described 'snap point'. I'm combining the sources and removing one of them, so whoevers addition it was that I'm removing, don't get all angry and stuff. -- Thaddius 14:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone fix that, or have a good picture to use there? JC747 08:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the stuck pixel article. Stuck pixels are a part of every LCD screen, this is not a "problem" as thats just how LCD screens are. They are just more noticable on handheld screens because of how small they are. If we include this, we must include it on every article about a device that contains an LCD screen. Most likely even your LCD computer moniter(assuming you have one) has at least one dead or stuck pixel. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.92.70.246 ( talk • contribs) .
The article lacks the professional tone needed for encyclopedia articles. In example, there are a lot of sentences starting with "On [month]...", while the features section has a long list (prose convertion needed). -- ReyBrujo 17:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed with my DS lite that I had to press very hard on buttons, so i traded in my DS lite for a DS. seriously though, it really hurt. is this normal for most DS lite consoles, because this puts me off buying another one.-EEVEE103 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.8.175.44 ( talk • contribs) .
Hello! I pre ordered my Dslite from game and i got it a day before it came out in the UK! Hurrah! Problems? The top clamshell is not in line with the bottom one. When i try to move the top one in line with the bottom i feel the machine will break. Oh and by pressing the bottom right corner of the outer rim of the touch screen the game acts as if i'm actually using the touch screen but i'm not. Has anyone else had a problem like this?
-- 86.130.120.6 16:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I would make sure that its really a ds, cause i'v never heard of that problem
Gotchipet----
On the bottom left - 24.184.218.12 19:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking at the 'Problems' section, and I'm not sure it actually needs to stay there.
For example, I haven't heard a peep about the 'cracked hinge' problem in months, have you? If it's something that's been addressed, then it seems to lack significant notability in an encyclopedic context. We're not talking about the 360 problems that actually significantly impaired functionality. We're talking about an apparently short-lived cosmetic defect.
So, is it still happening to people, or can it be removed?
Similarly, the other 'problems' don't seem all that verifiable. I've read the same IGN article, too, but that's the only place I've heard of these problems. For example, I find the diagonals to be very easy to press, requiring no excessive pressure; and I haven't read complaints to the contrary anywhere than on ign. And as for the shifting touchscreen, even the ign article said you "shouldn't be concerned about" it.
So then, what do you think? Is this section actually notable in terms of the lifespan and most significant details about the system as a whole? Or is it just more of a tidbit that wouldn't be necessary to know if you were looking for the core facts?
I guess what I'm asking is, are these really defining, notable aspects of the DS Lite?
Bladestorm
Update: I'm still not seeing any comments on this question. If nobody has any suggestions, then I'll simply be removing that section as unnecessary. Again, I'm looking to know if anyone views this section as still being pertinent as far as the article is concerned. (I'll wait a little while longer before actually removing it though, in case anyone wants to comment)
Bladestorm
22:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I've just removed the 'problems' section. Nobody objected after... was it 4 days? or 5? Anyways, if anyone wishes to make a case for putting it back in, please just talk about it here first, okay?
Bladestorm
17:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
A history of problems section would be nice. Always fun to read about problems with launches. Part of a trivia section maybe?-- Talroth 19:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
i came here to see information about DS lite problems, my DS lite has this Diagonal pressing problem. it is very hard to go LEFT+UP and RIGHT+DOWN. i wanted to know, if this problem is still there with new DS models or if i did get a old launch date model. 87.184.254.164 21:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
There is a Bratz Forever Diamondz special edition DS...I believe it is only available through a contest, not sure how many exist but it is probably worth a mention. Alcy 06:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I was reading the source for the broken street date of the US DS Lite from GameSpot, and this article points to Target, Walmart, Kmart and also Meijer stores, however the GameSpot article that is used only reports that some anonymous poster had only proven to have gotten hold of a DS Lite from a Target store, and no other store. I wanted to make sure that this was the case before I yanked the names of the other retailers. To someone who never reads sources, this implies that all four stores listed (when in reality only one) had really broken the street date. Mattygabe 20:18, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted additions of the rumors of a new DS version, both times for different reasons unrelated to the actual information. I figure it would be best to get some opinions. There are sources, but they aren't the most reputable. I think it would be best to sit on this for a bit until it gets picked up by the more established sites. Thoughts? Dancter 01:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a problem with this line: "New External Extension Connection, rendering it incompatible to accessories for the Game Boy Advance EXT2 port (Power cords and headphone adapters)." Specifically this part below: "The power port was changed to prevent cross-use of Nintendo DS Lite and original Nintendo DS adapters, because the Lite's power adapter supplies a higher current for the more powerful battery." (also it sounds like personal opinion) Both the DS and DS Lite use 5.2 Volt batteries and both can be powered by a USB port, I actually bought a third party adapter (by Joytech) that can plug into the DS Lite, DS and SP through USB and can receive power and charge the battery, so this leaves me wondering. I think the real reason they changed the port was like the micro, only to reduce the size on the machine itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.110.194.41 ( talk • contribs).
I'm not sure how relevant it is, but I wonder, does anyone know the codename of the DS Lite, to give explanation to the "USG" part of the system hardware serials? The old DS article has a small explanation that its codename was "Nitro" which explains the "NTR" on its hardware and all the games. (Since the DS Lite doesn't have its own software library, all games still use NTR, and never use USG.) -- 67.171.53.242 20:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Under "Units sold", it lists 2.23 million sold for "America".
That's both inappropriate and confusing. Is that referring to "North America"? The "United States of America"? Or "North America" and "South America" combined?
Since I don't know which the number refers to, I can't fix it myself, but could one of you fix that for me?
Bladestorm
04:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Most people in the UK, and English Speaking people in Europe, use "America" as a short form of "The United States of America". I don't think it is a problem as "America" in any other sense is a continent, not a country. It seems the preference in this particular article for a US style (spelling of Colour as Color etc.) would mean that perhaps America should be replaced with USA in this instance.
A common trend that has begun cropping up is, instead of using flag icons for the release dates, people have been using superscript shortened titles for the regions. I bring this forward because the DS Lite was released in North America, not the US, on the release date mentioned on the site. If no one objects I'll change the flag icons to things like NA and EU. -- Thaddius 17:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I found someone had made this edit to the main page
"Its also been speculated that the pope himself blesses each and every nintendo ds as its the only thing between the free world and a sony capitalist regime. its also been said that it can in fact fit inside alucards anus with room to spare"
I've taken it out, but I just thought I would put this up here incase it gets put up again.~~flamecondor~~
I wanted to share an important link for everyone, one that enabled me to get one of these hard to find buggers. I am not affiliated with the site and just thought its a great tool.
http://www.instocker.com/nintendo_ds_lite/
I put it under external links and it was removed and I got a message that I spammed. The page is an actual realtime instock tracker for the ds.
Please share your thoughts...
just caught the bold text at the top as Nintendo DS Wanker. changing back... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.0.132.83 ( talk) 19:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC).
If there's a discussion re: this subject that I missed, or perhaps its under the original DS page discussion, but upon reading the stats box for the DS Lite, I was quite confused with the description that the DS supported LAN connectivity. What is exactly meant by this? Because as far as I know, anything network-related that the DS can do is all wireless, which I believe falls under the "WiFi" umbrella. Can anyone specify this, or is this an error? Mattygabe 03:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
A wireless Local Area Network is still a Local Area Network. It can connect to APs or do ad hoc wireless networking. 216.78.200.3 00:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Allo.
So, I added a {{cn}} tag to the line stating that the decrease in volume of the system causes GBA games to protrude.
Just so nobody thinks I'm insane, I do realize that the volume has been reduced, and that the GBA cartridges do, in fact, protrude from the bottom. It's just that I'm inclined to believe that it's the placement of the stylus that caused this.
Take a good look at the system from the side and from below, and you'll see that the cartridges go in pretty much right up to where the stylus is, and that is where they have to stop.
So, maybe the article is right, and the reduction of volume alone is to blame, or maybe it's the new placement of the stylus. But there should really be a cited reference either way for a declaration of cause & effect.
Bladestorm
23:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Besides the DS article not having one, there really is no need. Every LCD screen in existance will always have dead pixels, this is not a problem on the DS Lite, this is a problem on LCD technology. Also, cracked hinges are also common and most likely to affect original DS's, as the hinge itself is structually weaker on the DS Hevy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.95.81.42 ( talk) 19:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
Is it really fair to combine the copies sold of all types of this game? That is like saying Pokemon sold most copies on Gameboy (combined.) I think that we should look into this and fix it with ONE title that actually deserves to be recognized as the "top-seller" in Nintendo DS history. Mommatimes2 23:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
People, please stop removing the fact tag from the "The decrease in volume of the system has resulted in Game Boy Advance games to protrude out of the system by 1cm" claim.
I know that the system is smaller than the original DS. I'm not stupid. However, it seems to me that it's the relocation of the stylus that's caused the GBA cartridges to protrude from the system. However, I didn't add that claim since it's only my personal guess as to the reasoning. Similarly, if anyone wants to claim that it's strictly the decrease in volume that caused it to protrude, then that needs to be cited as well.
Even though people keep removing it, that tag's been there since february. If nobody cites it soon, then I'm simply going to remove any and all theorized causes for the protrusion (is that a word?).
Bladestorm
21:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll admit that I don't own a DS yet (though I plan to get one in the very near future), but a complaint that I have with this article is the overwhelming positive bias that it has. I have several friends that own original and Lite versions of the DS, and I've heard complaints from several of them of the shoulder buttons on the Lite version wearing out in a fairly rapid fashion. Surely there should be some inclusion of this, and other matters such as Wi Fi connectivity problems and a more substansive analysis of the differences between the original and the Lite (both positive and negative), in order to make this a more inclusive and encyclopedic article. RPH 21:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, how about actually getting a DS Lite first and THEN coming here after you've judged these "problems" for yourself? You can't just take a few people's opinions and assume that everyone has the same problems. The fact that you don't own one yourself, and STILL come here with complaints about it, just makes YOU look like you have an overwhelming negative bias. Link's Awakening 20:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Wow, you must have been really desperate to get something on me if you went through the trouble of searching through deleted sections on a Talk page just to quote some old comments. And besides, did I ever actually say anything was wrong with adding a criticism section? No. And if you hadn't made it seem like you just wanted to complain for some of your friends, then I may actually have said it was a good idea. But the way you say you've only "heard" about these complaints from them, makes it sound like you've never even held one in your life for all we know. Even my friend's DS Lite which he got when it came out doesn't have those problems. Like Thaddius said above, those were unverifyable opinions. But fine, whatever, do what you want to do. As long as you can back up your complaints, I couldn't care less. Link's Awakening 22:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Don't take out the alternate spellings (i.e., the Japanese spelling) of the DS Lite, they're there for a reason. It isn't marketed as "DS Lite" everywhere.-- the ninth bright shiner talk 19:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The paragraph on Launch -> Availability uses a mix of past tense and present tense. I'm not sure whether the availability of the NDSL is still problematic or not, but could somebody please adjust the paragraph to reflect actual information. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 16:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
We're here again, the Cracked hinges section gets deleted again. It seems well sourced, has a few refs, why should it get removed? -- Oscarthecat 18:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
It's obvious that many of you are unfairly trying to spin/downplay the entire Cracked Hinge issue. The problem obviously exists and there is a plethora of recent enough visual evidence to prove it and none that disproves its existence today. To not include this information in the article is undermining the base purpose of Wikipedia itself. To those of you who keep omitting something so obvious: please stop insulting the rest of the Wikipedia community trying to rationalize what is virtually vandalism on your part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.84.201.213 ( talk • contribs)
Why was the image gallery removed? I'm not seeing any discussion of it in here, and the person who removed it didn't explain it in their edit summary. Gh5046 19:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I know this question doesn't really have anything to do with the content of the article, but I was wondering, is it ok to use one of those USB charger cables for the DS Lite regularly? I was thinking about getting one but first I wanted to know if anyone here might own one, and how well it's worked for you. I don't want my DS to get zapped or anything. Thanks. Nintenboy01 18:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 |
There needs to be a consensus in this. While "colour" is more widely used to "color," we need to think of this in regard to the Nintendo DS Lite. It's been released in Japan, Australia, the United States, Canada, Europe, and the People's Republic of China. In my opinion, the word that should be used (color or colour) is the word that is the most wideley used within theses regions.-- The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 21:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Well to tell you the truth, my American friend actually believes colour is the correct spelling. It makes sense to me as well, because it's only really one country that uses the spelling color. Wikipedia is worldwide not one country, so it would be best to please the majority (which is the world) instead of the American population that reads this article. ps: the Wikipedia article on "color" is really stupid too. I mean come on, Vandalism? saying it's the word color is vandalism to the english language in my oppinion. -- 203.129.39.248 07:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
"Features a much sturdier hinge than the previous model, which was somewhat fragile." ... I bought one two weeks ago and the hinge on the left-hand side has already cracked. This problem has been reported elsewhere (http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=8482).
The hinge is much sturdier, this very small amount of reports of a cracked hinge has so far has not had any negative effects on hinge sturdiness. It's not like that tiny small cosmetic crack is gonna let the whole unit fall apart. The hinge is much wider and sturdier that the DS's rather small hinge, which was fragile and recieved many more reports of cracked hinges. I'm removing that passage from the features section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) .
Hm, weren't there pictures of the diffent editions on here? were they removed for a reason? I thought about posting a selfmade pic of my black ds but when there are no others it feels weird SilentGuy 12:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
http://ds.ign.com/articles/720/720637p1.html
IGN has posted some sales figures. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 06:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Nintendo has released a press release stating that 21 million units have sold worldwide DS Sales Figures. This wiki currently lists the DS as having only sold 4.1 million. Can someone edit? -- Matdjj 09:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
As far as the actual text of the cracked hinge header, "criticism" is absolutely inappropriate. What does the text have to do with criticism? When I wrote the initial version of that section, the title read "Scandal." Now I'm perfectly willing to let someone rewrite the header, but the revision has to make some semblance of sense. How about "cracked hinge sightings"? Any objections? -- Stephenglassman 01:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
03:30, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
70.48.173.84 03:35, 30 July 2006
(UTC)
Here's a link to some pics of the end result of the cracked hinge: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/new-horrible-ds-lite-crack-193231.php Douglasr007 09:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
In the name of Nintendo, could someone edit the characteristics paragraph? It's one informative but terribly rambling monstrosity. Plus, the entire first half is written in reference to the the changes made as in reference to the DS, and I believe this is not a "changes from the original DS" section, but a paragraph on its own properties as they are. Kylara21 06:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion, the differences are very important and relevant. If they are not listed under characteristics should we make them a section? -- Matdjj 09:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
The "Cracked hinges" section reads as follows:
Those two paragraphs should probably be merged into one that's more accurately worded. -- Spug 19:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
That sections seems to have quite a bit of "if,but,maybe" and OR in it - needs a bit of a clean-up. --
Charlesknight
21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
In the article there is a quote as follows: "Finally, those same anecdotal sources have posited that the hinge is only stressed when the device is opened beyond the first detent to the second detent." Immediatly following there is another pragraph that starts with this: "There is a possible link between the cracked hinge issue and opening the DS Lite beyond its initial 'snap' point." I hate to break it to one of the authors here but the word 'detent' is a synonym for the described 'snap point'. I'm combining the sources and removing one of them, so whoevers addition it was that I'm removing, don't get all angry and stuff. -- Thaddius 14:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone fix that, or have a good picture to use there? JC747 08:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the stuck pixel article. Stuck pixels are a part of every LCD screen, this is not a "problem" as thats just how LCD screens are. They are just more noticable on handheld screens because of how small they are. If we include this, we must include it on every article about a device that contains an LCD screen. Most likely even your LCD computer moniter(assuming you have one) has at least one dead or stuck pixel. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.92.70.246 ( talk • contribs) .
The article lacks the professional tone needed for encyclopedia articles. In example, there are a lot of sentences starting with "On [month]...", while the features section has a long list (prose convertion needed). -- ReyBrujo 17:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed with my DS lite that I had to press very hard on buttons, so i traded in my DS lite for a DS. seriously though, it really hurt. is this normal for most DS lite consoles, because this puts me off buying another one.-EEVEE103 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.8.175.44 ( talk • contribs) .
Hello! I pre ordered my Dslite from game and i got it a day before it came out in the UK! Hurrah! Problems? The top clamshell is not in line with the bottom one. When i try to move the top one in line with the bottom i feel the machine will break. Oh and by pressing the bottom right corner of the outer rim of the touch screen the game acts as if i'm actually using the touch screen but i'm not. Has anyone else had a problem like this?
-- 86.130.120.6 16:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I would make sure that its really a ds, cause i'v never heard of that problem
Gotchipet----
On the bottom left - 24.184.218.12 19:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I've been looking at the 'Problems' section, and I'm not sure it actually needs to stay there.
For example, I haven't heard a peep about the 'cracked hinge' problem in months, have you? If it's something that's been addressed, then it seems to lack significant notability in an encyclopedic context. We're not talking about the 360 problems that actually significantly impaired functionality. We're talking about an apparently short-lived cosmetic defect.
So, is it still happening to people, or can it be removed?
Similarly, the other 'problems' don't seem all that verifiable. I've read the same IGN article, too, but that's the only place I've heard of these problems. For example, I find the diagonals to be very easy to press, requiring no excessive pressure; and I haven't read complaints to the contrary anywhere than on ign. And as for the shifting touchscreen, even the ign article said you "shouldn't be concerned about" it.
So then, what do you think? Is this section actually notable in terms of the lifespan and most significant details about the system as a whole? Or is it just more of a tidbit that wouldn't be necessary to know if you were looking for the core facts?
I guess what I'm asking is, are these really defining, notable aspects of the DS Lite?
Bladestorm
Update: I'm still not seeing any comments on this question. If nobody has any suggestions, then I'll simply be removing that section as unnecessary. Again, I'm looking to know if anyone views this section as still being pertinent as far as the article is concerned. (I'll wait a little while longer before actually removing it though, in case anyone wants to comment)
Bladestorm
22:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, I've just removed the 'problems' section. Nobody objected after... was it 4 days? or 5? Anyways, if anyone wishes to make a case for putting it back in, please just talk about it here first, okay?
Bladestorm
17:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
A history of problems section would be nice. Always fun to read about problems with launches. Part of a trivia section maybe?-- Talroth 19:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
i came here to see information about DS lite problems, my DS lite has this Diagonal pressing problem. it is very hard to go LEFT+UP and RIGHT+DOWN. i wanted to know, if this problem is still there with new DS models or if i did get a old launch date model. 87.184.254.164 21:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
There is a Bratz Forever Diamondz special edition DS...I believe it is only available through a contest, not sure how many exist but it is probably worth a mention. Alcy 06:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I was reading the source for the broken street date of the US DS Lite from GameSpot, and this article points to Target, Walmart, Kmart and also Meijer stores, however the GameSpot article that is used only reports that some anonymous poster had only proven to have gotten hold of a DS Lite from a Target store, and no other store. I wanted to make sure that this was the case before I yanked the names of the other retailers. To someone who never reads sources, this implies that all four stores listed (when in reality only one) had really broken the street date. Mattygabe 20:18, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted additions of the rumors of a new DS version, both times for different reasons unrelated to the actual information. I figure it would be best to get some opinions. There are sources, but they aren't the most reputable. I think it would be best to sit on this for a bit until it gets picked up by the more established sites. Thoughts? Dancter 01:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a problem with this line: "New External Extension Connection, rendering it incompatible to accessories for the Game Boy Advance EXT2 port (Power cords and headphone adapters)." Specifically this part below: "The power port was changed to prevent cross-use of Nintendo DS Lite and original Nintendo DS adapters, because the Lite's power adapter supplies a higher current for the more powerful battery." (also it sounds like personal opinion) Both the DS and DS Lite use 5.2 Volt batteries and both can be powered by a USB port, I actually bought a third party adapter (by Joytech) that can plug into the DS Lite, DS and SP through USB and can receive power and charge the battery, so this leaves me wondering. I think the real reason they changed the port was like the micro, only to reduce the size on the machine itself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.110.194.41 ( talk • contribs).
I'm not sure how relevant it is, but I wonder, does anyone know the codename of the DS Lite, to give explanation to the "USG" part of the system hardware serials? The old DS article has a small explanation that its codename was "Nitro" which explains the "NTR" on its hardware and all the games. (Since the DS Lite doesn't have its own software library, all games still use NTR, and never use USG.) -- 67.171.53.242 20:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Under "Units sold", it lists 2.23 million sold for "America".
That's both inappropriate and confusing. Is that referring to "North America"? The "United States of America"? Or "North America" and "South America" combined?
Since I don't know which the number refers to, I can't fix it myself, but could one of you fix that for me?
Bladestorm
04:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Most people in the UK, and English Speaking people in Europe, use "America" as a short form of "The United States of America". I don't think it is a problem as "America" in any other sense is a continent, not a country. It seems the preference in this particular article for a US style (spelling of Colour as Color etc.) would mean that perhaps America should be replaced with USA in this instance.
A common trend that has begun cropping up is, instead of using flag icons for the release dates, people have been using superscript shortened titles for the regions. I bring this forward because the DS Lite was released in North America, not the US, on the release date mentioned on the site. If no one objects I'll change the flag icons to things like NA and EU. -- Thaddius 17:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I found someone had made this edit to the main page
"Its also been speculated that the pope himself blesses each and every nintendo ds as its the only thing between the free world and a sony capitalist regime. its also been said that it can in fact fit inside alucards anus with room to spare"
I've taken it out, but I just thought I would put this up here incase it gets put up again.~~flamecondor~~
I wanted to share an important link for everyone, one that enabled me to get one of these hard to find buggers. I am not affiliated with the site and just thought its a great tool.
http://www.instocker.com/nintendo_ds_lite/
I put it under external links and it was removed and I got a message that I spammed. The page is an actual realtime instock tracker for the ds.
Please share your thoughts...
just caught the bold text at the top as Nintendo DS Wanker. changing back... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.0.132.83 ( talk) 19:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC).
If there's a discussion re: this subject that I missed, or perhaps its under the original DS page discussion, but upon reading the stats box for the DS Lite, I was quite confused with the description that the DS supported LAN connectivity. What is exactly meant by this? Because as far as I know, anything network-related that the DS can do is all wireless, which I believe falls under the "WiFi" umbrella. Can anyone specify this, or is this an error? Mattygabe 03:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
A wireless Local Area Network is still a Local Area Network. It can connect to APs or do ad hoc wireless networking. 216.78.200.3 00:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Allo.
So, I added a {{cn}} tag to the line stating that the decrease in volume of the system causes GBA games to protrude.
Just so nobody thinks I'm insane, I do realize that the volume has been reduced, and that the GBA cartridges do, in fact, protrude from the bottom. It's just that I'm inclined to believe that it's the placement of the stylus that caused this.
Take a good look at the system from the side and from below, and you'll see that the cartridges go in pretty much right up to where the stylus is, and that is where they have to stop.
So, maybe the article is right, and the reduction of volume alone is to blame, or maybe it's the new placement of the stylus. But there should really be a cited reference either way for a declaration of cause & effect.
Bladestorm
23:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Besides the DS article not having one, there really is no need. Every LCD screen in existance will always have dead pixels, this is not a problem on the DS Lite, this is a problem on LCD technology. Also, cracked hinges are also common and most likely to affect original DS's, as the hinge itself is structually weaker on the DS Hevy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.95.81.42 ( talk) 19:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC).
Is it really fair to combine the copies sold of all types of this game? That is like saying Pokemon sold most copies on Gameboy (combined.) I think that we should look into this and fix it with ONE title that actually deserves to be recognized as the "top-seller" in Nintendo DS history. Mommatimes2 23:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
People, please stop removing the fact tag from the "The decrease in volume of the system has resulted in Game Boy Advance games to protrude out of the system by 1cm" claim.
I know that the system is smaller than the original DS. I'm not stupid. However, it seems to me that it's the relocation of the stylus that's caused the GBA cartridges to protrude from the system. However, I didn't add that claim since it's only my personal guess as to the reasoning. Similarly, if anyone wants to claim that it's strictly the decrease in volume that caused it to protrude, then that needs to be cited as well.
Even though people keep removing it, that tag's been there since february. If nobody cites it soon, then I'm simply going to remove any and all theorized causes for the protrusion (is that a word?).
Bladestorm
21:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
I'll admit that I don't own a DS yet (though I plan to get one in the very near future), but a complaint that I have with this article is the overwhelming positive bias that it has. I have several friends that own original and Lite versions of the DS, and I've heard complaints from several of them of the shoulder buttons on the Lite version wearing out in a fairly rapid fashion. Surely there should be some inclusion of this, and other matters such as Wi Fi connectivity problems and a more substansive analysis of the differences between the original and the Lite (both positive and negative), in order to make this a more inclusive and encyclopedic article. RPH 21:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm, how about actually getting a DS Lite first and THEN coming here after you've judged these "problems" for yourself? You can't just take a few people's opinions and assume that everyone has the same problems. The fact that you don't own one yourself, and STILL come here with complaints about it, just makes YOU look like you have an overwhelming negative bias. Link's Awakening 20:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Wow, you must have been really desperate to get something on me if you went through the trouble of searching through deleted sections on a Talk page just to quote some old comments. And besides, did I ever actually say anything was wrong with adding a criticism section? No. And if you hadn't made it seem like you just wanted to complain for some of your friends, then I may actually have said it was a good idea. But the way you say you've only "heard" about these complaints from them, makes it sound like you've never even held one in your life for all we know. Even my friend's DS Lite which he got when it came out doesn't have those problems. Like Thaddius said above, those were unverifyable opinions. But fine, whatever, do what you want to do. As long as you can back up your complaints, I couldn't care less. Link's Awakening 22:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Don't take out the alternate spellings (i.e., the Japanese spelling) of the DS Lite, they're there for a reason. It isn't marketed as "DS Lite" everywhere.-- the ninth bright shiner talk 19:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
The paragraph on Launch -> Availability uses a mix of past tense and present tense. I'm not sure whether the availability of the NDSL is still problematic or not, but could somebody please adjust the paragraph to reflect actual information. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 16:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
We're here again, the Cracked hinges section gets deleted again. It seems well sourced, has a few refs, why should it get removed? -- Oscarthecat 18:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
It's obvious that many of you are unfairly trying to spin/downplay the entire Cracked Hinge issue. The problem obviously exists and there is a plethora of recent enough visual evidence to prove it and none that disproves its existence today. To not include this information in the article is undermining the base purpose of Wikipedia itself. To those of you who keep omitting something so obvious: please stop insulting the rest of the Wikipedia community trying to rationalize what is virtually vandalism on your part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.84.201.213 ( talk • contribs)
Why was the image gallery removed? I'm not seeing any discussion of it in here, and the person who removed it didn't explain it in their edit summary. Gh5046 19:54, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I know this question doesn't really have anything to do with the content of the article, but I was wondering, is it ok to use one of those USB charger cables for the DS Lite regularly? I was thinking about getting one but first I wanted to know if anyone here might own one, and how well it's worked for you. I don't want my DS to get zapped or anything. Thanks. Nintenboy01 18:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)