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For some reason there was a second WFC section right at the bottom of the page. There was no unique or useful information in it, so I removed it. Now there's only the one at the top Noit88 14:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
They have a slot for it; they've mentioned using it; when will it happen? I suspect it may be used in Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam, which is said to support voice chat. A headset could be used for in-game chat instead of the before-and-after-game chat in Metroid Prime Hunters. -- Gaming King 07:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
There are unofficial headsets available-
GAME do a third party one. There's not been any official first party ones or anything though, so it's a bit open-ended.
Noit88
22:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. But I wonder when Nintendo itself will utilize the slot... --
Gaming King
20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
At a product fair in Japan nintendo revealed the headset. http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/?p=1075
If that doesn't convince you, just google "Ds headset" THis discussion is over. I also added it in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) 21:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
This article makes out that DS officially stands for Dual Screen first, however I have never heard Nintendo officially calling it the Dual Screen, but the Developers' System. -- The last sheikah 19:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
DS does stand for Duel Screen and was originally the code name used to describe the system. But Nintendo decided to settle with the name. Bendragonbrown47 19:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Nintendo did not settle with the name, that is pure speculation. Accourding to Nintendo DS stands for Developers system, never once have the stated that it stands for Dual Screens, dual screens is a fan driven name into the media. I say we remove this passage
"The letters "DS" in the name are meant to stand for both Dual Screen and Developers' System, the latter of which refers to the features of the handheld designed to encourage innovative gameplay ideas among developers." For it only officialy by Nintendo stands for Developers system, and thats what counts. Dual screen is completly fan made. The passage SHOULD be stated like this
"The letters "DS" in the name are meant to stand for Developers' System, which refers to the features of the handheld designed to encourage innovative gameplay ideas among developers. It's unofficial name however is simply put, Dual Screens."It can be cleaned up a little, but that's the main point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) .
The ComfortStylus isn't a "DS" accessory -- it's a generic stylus. The entry seems as though it might exist solely to drive folks to the ComfortStylus website. Shall we delete it? 69.104.41.102 15:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)David 69.104.41.102 15:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It has been mentioned before that the DS will in some way connect with the DS. I dont know the specifics or have a link to anything very concrete but I was wondering if anyone that knew more about that would be willing to add that to this article as it is currently lacking any mention. Sir hugo 19:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Iwata confirmed in an interview that the DS and Wii WILL connect with each other and the DS is capable of recieving downloads from Wii.
How can the DS belong to this category when there's also a DS Lite, therefore not one of a kind? --
Oscarthecat
20:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, look... the DS/DS Lite are non-reigonal, right? I, an American, can play Japanese games in my DS, right? So, when the Japanese Opera DS Browser comes out, can't I just buy it off the web, pay for the huge shipping, and use it to go on the web with my DS? I'm not sure if it would work... could anyone more knowledgeable on this topic help me? Thanks. aido2002 03:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The DS image in the infobox has no source. It may be deleted on commons. Bawolff 05:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a way, however, to change batteries without losing the data mentioned above. The user will need a charger, the new battery, and the DS to have its batteries replaced. First, the user turns on the System, and then plugs it in. Making perfectly sure that the system is on and plugged in, the user changes the batteries. The user may take as much time as he/she wants. IMPORTANT: KEEP IT PLUGGGED IN! Once the new battery is securley in place, screw in the cover, and use the system normally.
That, is very helpful to the topic, as people will just see "Replacing betteries erases data" and not how to prevent it.
Recent edit removed this NDS alias. Sites such as amazon still refer to it as NDS in some instances.
[1]. Also, google shows many sites using the name. I've reverted the edit, as a result. --
Oscarthecat
06:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
What's the unit called again? the Nintendo DS, don't believe me? Check your box or even better yet, check on back of the unit. It's NDS, period.
I was wondering if I could add my Nintendo DS Blog! It follows te news on the Nintendo dS and the Nitendo DS Lite! HEre is the adress: http://red.blogs.aol.com/imasmartguy/Nintendo+DS/ -- 64.12.116.72 13:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace) and forums should generally not be linked to. Although there are exceptions, such as when the article is about, or closely related to, the website itself, or if the website is of particularly high standard.
Sites that are inaccessible to a significant proportion of the online community (for example, sites that only work with a specific brand of browser).
http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/gamesoft/daikesyu_4/tokuten.html so, what's the word?- Malomeat 15:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, this has been eating at me for a while now, but how are getting the numbers for units sold? It doesn't seem to match anything in any of the linked references. Same with the Nintendo DS Lite article. I have a suspicion we're doing something we shouldn't be, but I'm not sure. Can anyone explain what's going on? Dancter 20:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Japanese units sold come from media play, while nintendo posts quarterly reports of it's sales numbers world wide. Sometimes things are common knowledge (DS being # 1 in july), and other times they are from NPD. Neozero497 20:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
In the section on the Opera web broswer, there is a citation needed tag after this sentence:
"a cross-platform web browser which will take advantage of the dual screens for either zooming in on certain sections of a website or having a longer vertical view"
The part needed citation is the last part about the zooming in/long vertical view, right ? That was confirmed in an issue of Nintendo Power. I have a scanned image of the page on my computer, is there anyway it could be used to verify the sentence ? Correct me I'f I'm wrong. - ~Viper~ | talk | contribs 23:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm ... didn't think so. Oh well, that link looks good too me. - ~Viper~ | talk | contribs 02:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the article Dual Screen points to this article about the Nintendo DS, presumably because "DS" stands for "Dual Screen". However, it seems to me that "Dual Screen" as a phrase is a much broader term, including any technology or computer system that incorporates two screens. Nintendo DS is just one product that makes use of that technology.
I would recommend that someone with more expertise than myself on the issue put together a seperate stub article for "Dual Screen" that discusses in general what dual screen applications are and how they work. Within that broader article, mention Nintendo DS as an example of a dual screen application at work. Dugwiki 20:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Could someone provide proof of this? This sounds highly dubious as Flash memory is generally re-writable, and I've never heard of Flash ROMs. I know save data is definately stored on Flash memory in the cards, but would assume just normal ROM chips are much cheaper to make and more reliable than Flash for the actual game. -- Zilog Jones 19:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
The article currently announces that "The system is theoretically capable of rendering 120,000 triangles per second at 30 frames per second." Does this mean to say, as is later implied, that the system can do at most 30 fps and, in addition, at most 120,000 triangles/second? The "at" doesn't make any sense. — 84.66.235.49 09:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the main photo should be updated to the Nintendo DS Lite as that is now the official 'image' of the Nintendo DS. Artimuszeln 00:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
It's completely awful, has no relevance, is not referenced and is littered with weasel words that slightly bias it against the DS. I think it should be removed; it's obvious from the sales section was people's reaction was. Trip: The Light Fantastic 00:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Last time I checked (a few minutes ago) MKSD was in SECOND and Nintendogs in First. Personally I like MKDS better, but oh well. Still needs to be accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.227.69.157 ( talk • contribs) . Nintendogs is only top when combining all three(soon to be four) versions. I don't like grouping them together, just like I don't like the Pokemon games being grouped together since it's not accurate as to what the top selling GAME(and not GAMES) is. TJ Spyke 04:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
What does DS stand for? Dual Screen? -- D-hyo 20:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
shouldn't there be no predecessor since it's been said by nintendo the ds is NOT part of the game boy family but a totally different system —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.166.212.145 ( talk • contribs) 00:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I was just coming to post the same thing. Nintendo considers the DS a "third pillar" to go along with the Game Boy line and the home console line. this has been Nintendo's stance since it first launched the DS. Really, the DS has no predecessor. source 209.216.93.104 15:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone object to Game Boy Advance being removed from the "predecessor" section, replaced instead with "none?" If not, I will make that change. Thanks. 209.216.93.104 19:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I've read elsewhere that the DS is a separate system from the Game Boy and consoles. Te DS Lite is, of course, a sucessor, but the DS itself has no predecessor.-- WorldsCollide 01:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
the fact remains is NOT A GAME BOY. there is no need for it to be there. maybe someone can call nintendo and get a quote then change it. keeping it there just gives people information that isn't true.
I removed some redundant info regarding the existance of the touchscreen and virtual surround sound in Firmware. This was already discussed earlier in the article. XXDucky21Xx 01:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't the announced European release date contradict with the rumors of Wii being launched October 2nd?
The Nintendo DS Lite will be launch officially in Brazil during an event called Arena Gamer Experience in Sao Paulo. just to inform you, if you think that should be add to the article: http://arenagamer.bizsolution.com.br/news_detail.aspx Sorry for my english, I'm a brazilian one :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.47.45.27 ( talk • contribs) .
This article much too long, and I'm thinking quite a bit of content should be removed or moved to other articles. Any suggestions? "Third party accessories" seems like a good candidate to me. Dancter 16:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if there shouldn't be any links to "fan" sites, so long as they are relevant to the article itself, but the fact is that there are way to many. I think that it should be trimmed down to no more than three. And only then if they are relevant and informative. As Ex-Nintendo Employee said, Wikipedia isn't a link repository. They can Google it if they want random fan site. WorldsCollide 17:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I still remember the old pic for the ds on this article.
who changed it?
Someone should change it to something better. Masterhand10 19:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Please stop deleting touchds.com from the entries, it is a valid community site and ranked one of the top DS fansites. It is completely valid, just stop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.5.160.207 ( talk • contribs) .
And thirty news articles is light? DS news has not been so hot recently, and they're not like gamespot and make news articles saying "Spongebob DS ships" and other uninteresting new snippets.
Can the line about how many AO games there are be removed? That will be always be 0 because Nintendo doesn't allow AO rated games on their systems, Sony and Microsoft have the same policy in that they won't allow AO rated games. TJ Spyke 04:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
"Nintendo has emphasized that its main intention for its inclusion was to allow a wide variety of accessories to be released for the system" RN 04:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I have a DS but I don't know what happens once you've started it up, because it's so long ago I forgot. Is the touch screen pre-calibrated, or does it make you do it yourself? If it is pre-calibrated, if you do calibration on the Options but mess up, is there a way to restore it to manufacturer's setting? *red-faced* Vitriol 18:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
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For some reason there was a second WFC section right at the bottom of the page. There was no unique or useful information in it, so I removed it. Now there's only the one at the top Noit88 14:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
They have a slot for it; they've mentioned using it; when will it happen? I suspect it may be used in Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam, which is said to support voice chat. A headset could be used for in-game chat instead of the before-and-after-game chat in Metroid Prime Hunters. -- Gaming King 07:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
There are unofficial headsets available-
GAME do a third party one. There's not been any official first party ones or anything though, so it's a bit open-ended.
Noit88
22:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. But I wonder when Nintendo itself will utilize the slot... --
Gaming King
20:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
At a product fair in Japan nintendo revealed the headset. http://www.britishgaming.co.uk/?p=1075
If that doesn't convince you, just google "Ds headset" THis discussion is over. I also added it in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) 21:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
This article makes out that DS officially stands for Dual Screen first, however I have never heard Nintendo officially calling it the Dual Screen, but the Developers' System. -- The last sheikah 19:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
DS does stand for Duel Screen and was originally the code name used to describe the system. But Nintendo decided to settle with the name. Bendragonbrown47 19:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Nintendo did not settle with the name, that is pure speculation. Accourding to Nintendo DS stands for Developers system, never once have the stated that it stands for Dual Screens, dual screens is a fan driven name into the media. I say we remove this passage
"The letters "DS" in the name are meant to stand for both Dual Screen and Developers' System, the latter of which refers to the features of the handheld designed to encourage innovative gameplay ideas among developers." For it only officialy by Nintendo stands for Developers system, and thats what counts. Dual screen is completly fan made. The passage SHOULD be stated like this
"The letters "DS" in the name are meant to stand for Developers' System, which refers to the features of the handheld designed to encourage innovative gameplay ideas among developers. It's unofficial name however is simply put, Dual Screens."It can be cleaned up a little, but that's the main point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.65.68 ( talk • contribs) .
The ComfortStylus isn't a "DS" accessory -- it's a generic stylus. The entry seems as though it might exist solely to drive folks to the ComfortStylus website. Shall we delete it? 69.104.41.102 15:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)David 69.104.41.102 15:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
It has been mentioned before that the DS will in some way connect with the DS. I dont know the specifics or have a link to anything very concrete but I was wondering if anyone that knew more about that would be willing to add that to this article as it is currently lacking any mention. Sir hugo 19:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Iwata confirmed in an interview that the DS and Wii WILL connect with each other and the DS is capable of recieving downloads from Wii.
How can the DS belong to this category when there's also a DS Lite, therefore not one of a kind? --
Oscarthecat
20:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, look... the DS/DS Lite are non-reigonal, right? I, an American, can play Japanese games in my DS, right? So, when the Japanese Opera DS Browser comes out, can't I just buy it off the web, pay for the huge shipping, and use it to go on the web with my DS? I'm not sure if it would work... could anyone more knowledgeable on this topic help me? Thanks. aido2002 03:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
The DS image in the infobox has no source. It may be deleted on commons. Bawolff 05:33, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a way, however, to change batteries without losing the data mentioned above. The user will need a charger, the new battery, and the DS to have its batteries replaced. First, the user turns on the System, and then plugs it in. Making perfectly sure that the system is on and plugged in, the user changes the batteries. The user may take as much time as he/she wants. IMPORTANT: KEEP IT PLUGGGED IN! Once the new battery is securley in place, screw in the cover, and use the system normally.
That, is very helpful to the topic, as people will just see "Replacing betteries erases data" and not how to prevent it.
Recent edit removed this NDS alias. Sites such as amazon still refer to it as NDS in some instances.
[1]. Also, google shows many sites using the name. I've reverted the edit, as a result. --
Oscarthecat
06:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
What's the unit called again? the Nintendo DS, don't believe me? Check your box or even better yet, check on back of the unit. It's NDS, period.
I was wondering if I could add my Nintendo DS Blog! It follows te news on the Nintendo dS and the Nitendo DS Lite! HEre is the adress: http://red.blogs.aol.com/imasmartguy/Nintendo+DS/ -- 64.12.116.72 13:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Blogs, social networking sites (such as MySpace) and forums should generally not be linked to. Although there are exceptions, such as when the article is about, or closely related to, the website itself, or if the website is of particularly high standard.
Sites that are inaccessible to a significant proportion of the online community (for example, sites that only work with a specific brand of browser).
http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/gamesoft/daikesyu_4/tokuten.html so, what's the word?- Malomeat 15:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Okay, this has been eating at me for a while now, but how are getting the numbers for units sold? It doesn't seem to match anything in any of the linked references. Same with the Nintendo DS Lite article. I have a suspicion we're doing something we shouldn't be, but I'm not sure. Can anyone explain what's going on? Dancter 20:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Japanese units sold come from media play, while nintendo posts quarterly reports of it's sales numbers world wide. Sometimes things are common knowledge (DS being # 1 in july), and other times they are from NPD. Neozero497 20:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
In the section on the Opera web broswer, there is a citation needed tag after this sentence:
"a cross-platform web browser which will take advantage of the dual screens for either zooming in on certain sections of a website or having a longer vertical view"
The part needed citation is the last part about the zooming in/long vertical view, right ? That was confirmed in an issue of Nintendo Power. I have a scanned image of the page on my computer, is there anyway it could be used to verify the sentence ? Correct me I'f I'm wrong. - ~Viper~ | talk | contribs 23:53, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmm ... didn't think so. Oh well, that link looks good too me. - ~Viper~ | talk | contribs 02:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the article Dual Screen points to this article about the Nintendo DS, presumably because "DS" stands for "Dual Screen". However, it seems to me that "Dual Screen" as a phrase is a much broader term, including any technology or computer system that incorporates two screens. Nintendo DS is just one product that makes use of that technology.
I would recommend that someone with more expertise than myself on the issue put together a seperate stub article for "Dual Screen" that discusses in general what dual screen applications are and how they work. Within that broader article, mention Nintendo DS as an example of a dual screen application at work. Dugwiki 20:34, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Could someone provide proof of this? This sounds highly dubious as Flash memory is generally re-writable, and I've never heard of Flash ROMs. I know save data is definately stored on Flash memory in the cards, but would assume just normal ROM chips are much cheaper to make and more reliable than Flash for the actual game. -- Zilog Jones 19:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
The article currently announces that "The system is theoretically capable of rendering 120,000 triangles per second at 30 frames per second." Does this mean to say, as is later implied, that the system can do at most 30 fps and, in addition, at most 120,000 triangles/second? The "at" doesn't make any sense. — 84.66.235.49 09:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps the main photo should be updated to the Nintendo DS Lite as that is now the official 'image' of the Nintendo DS. Artimuszeln 00:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
It's completely awful, has no relevance, is not referenced and is littered with weasel words that slightly bias it against the DS. I think it should be removed; it's obvious from the sales section was people's reaction was. Trip: The Light Fantastic 00:26, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Last time I checked (a few minutes ago) MKSD was in SECOND and Nintendogs in First. Personally I like MKDS better, but oh well. Still needs to be accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.227.69.157 ( talk • contribs) . Nintendogs is only top when combining all three(soon to be four) versions. I don't like grouping them together, just like I don't like the Pokemon games being grouped together since it's not accurate as to what the top selling GAME(and not GAMES) is. TJ Spyke 04:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
What does DS stand for? Dual Screen? -- D-hyo 20:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
shouldn't there be no predecessor since it's been said by nintendo the ds is NOT part of the game boy family but a totally different system —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.166.212.145 ( talk • contribs) 00:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I was just coming to post the same thing. Nintendo considers the DS a "third pillar" to go along with the Game Boy line and the home console line. this has been Nintendo's stance since it first launched the DS. Really, the DS has no predecessor. source 209.216.93.104 15:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone object to Game Boy Advance being removed from the "predecessor" section, replaced instead with "none?" If not, I will make that change. Thanks. 209.216.93.104 19:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I've read elsewhere that the DS is a separate system from the Game Boy and consoles. Te DS Lite is, of course, a sucessor, but the DS itself has no predecessor.-- WorldsCollide 01:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
the fact remains is NOT A GAME BOY. there is no need for it to be there. maybe someone can call nintendo and get a quote then change it. keeping it there just gives people information that isn't true.
I removed some redundant info regarding the existance of the touchscreen and virtual surround sound in Firmware. This was already discussed earlier in the article. XXDucky21Xx 01:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Wouldn't the announced European release date contradict with the rumors of Wii being launched October 2nd?
The Nintendo DS Lite will be launch officially in Brazil during an event called Arena Gamer Experience in Sao Paulo. just to inform you, if you think that should be add to the article: http://arenagamer.bizsolution.com.br/news_detail.aspx Sorry for my english, I'm a brazilian one :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.47.45.27 ( talk • contribs) .
This article much too long, and I'm thinking quite a bit of content should be removed or moved to other articles. Any suggestions? "Third party accessories" seems like a good candidate to me. Dancter 16:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if there shouldn't be any links to "fan" sites, so long as they are relevant to the article itself, but the fact is that there are way to many. I think that it should be trimmed down to no more than three. And only then if they are relevant and informative. As Ex-Nintendo Employee said, Wikipedia isn't a link repository. They can Google it if they want random fan site. WorldsCollide 17:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I still remember the old pic for the ds on this article.
who changed it?
Someone should change it to something better. Masterhand10 19:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Please stop deleting touchds.com from the entries, it is a valid community site and ranked one of the top DS fansites. It is completely valid, just stop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.5.160.207 ( talk • contribs) .
And thirty news articles is light? DS news has not been so hot recently, and they're not like gamespot and make news articles saying "Spongebob DS ships" and other uninteresting new snippets.
Can the line about how many AO games there are be removed? That will be always be 0 because Nintendo doesn't allow AO rated games on their systems, Sony and Microsoft have the same policy in that they won't allow AO rated games. TJ Spyke 04:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
"Nintendo has emphasized that its main intention for its inclusion was to allow a wide variety of accessories to be released for the system" RN 04:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I have a DS but I don't know what happens once you've started it up, because it's so long ago I forgot. Is the touch screen pre-calibrated, or does it make you do it yourself? If it is pre-calibrated, if you do calibration on the Options but mess up, is there a way to restore it to manufacturer's setting? *red-faced* Vitriol 18:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)